Alvin Brown says he is non partisan

Started by Diane Melendez, April 15, 2011, 02:51:20 PM

Timkin

I don't think there would ever be zero percent unemployment ,even if everyone were willing to work.

mtraininjax

QuoteIf you expect 0 percent unemployment from either candidate, you are dreaming.  

I never said 0 PERCENT. You never get to 0 percent, well maybe you do in Candyland or Fantasyland, but not in the Good Ol US of A! Check my stuff, I never said it, never implied it. Our best numbers a few years ago were around 3 percent.
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Jaxson

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
QuoteSorry mtrain, but the suburbs didnt actually go for Mike.  The westside did.

Stephen - We shall see soon. Folks in Mandarin, if they care at all, won't appreciate seeing their revenues going to fix something they deem as unsafe and unneeded. Come to think of neither will the westside, beaches or northside.

I am glad that we have a spokesman for the suburbs who is able to confidently say that downtown is completely useless to the rest of the city.  Suburbanites, in their infinite wisdom, never go to Christmas tree lightings at the Landing, never go to see the Independence Day fireworks show, never attend ArtWalks, never go to the Jazz Festival, and never go to concerts at the Florida Theatre.  Suburbanites have absolutely no use for downtown and believe that it should be boarded up surrounded in police tape like a crime scene that is too horrific to even look at.  I am glad that the suburbs all feel that way.
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Jaxson

QuoteHogan did not say anything or have any numbers, if Brown wants my vote, he needs to think bigger.

What do you mean by think bigger? 
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin

Umm..... no one said you did , M-train

Jaxson

QuoteHey, 35,000 is a great number. With 10.2% unemployment, that would make a nice dent, but we would still be at 5-6% unemployment. Don't get me wrong, I like the direction, but why not offer double that at 60,000 and get us down to the levels we were in 2006/2007, before the great recession started. If we're throwing out numbers....

sounds like 5-6% employment wouldn't satisfy you.  in my opinion, it looks like a decent stat.  not perfect, but good.
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Jaxson

But, then again, nothing Alvin Brown does will satisfy the naysayers.  If Alvin Brown walked on water, the first thing the naysayers will say is, "The poor sap can't swim!"
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

wsansewjs

Quote from: wsansewjs on April 15, 2011, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
Is this the ONLY thread for the debate today at the University Club? If so, this was interesting:
QuoteJim Schoettler: Suggests he (Brown) can bring an additional 35,000 job. Also talks about small business, the backbone of our economy. We have a tremendous opportunity to close the gaps.

Hey, 35,000 is a great number. With 10.2% unemployment, that would make a nice dent, but we would still be at 5-6% unemployment. Don't get me wrong, I like the direction, but why not offer double that at 60,000 and get us down to the levels we were in 2006/2007, before the great recession started. If we're throwing out numbers....


4-6% Unemployment rate is COMPLETELY normal because of people changing jobs, going to schools, quit for person reasons, etc etc.

-Josh

This thread has come full circle back to my point. We will never be at 0% unemployment. That's why I said its NORMAL for an economy in the good ole USA to have 4-6% because of the fluctuations in different factors from hiring temporary works even from international to holiday seasons changes to changing jobs to personal life changes, etc etc.

-Josh
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Timkin

Quote from: Jaxson on April 15, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
But, then again, nothing Alvin Brown does will satisfy the naysayers.  If Alvin Brown walked on water, the first thing the naysayers will say is, "The poor sap can't swim!"

BINGO..  Jaxson .. don't let this get to you.. really .. its a waste to get upset over buddy :)

Jaxson

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Quote4-6% Unemployment rate is COMPLETELY normal because of people changing jobs, going to schools, quit for person reasons, etc etc.

Sure you do, but tell that to the 50,000 still unemployed. We got down to 3% when the economy was running full board. We can do the same with the assets we have here, but its short sightedness to leave opportunities on the table. If I wanted more votes, I would have gone with a bigger number. Hogan did not say anything or have any numbers, if Brown wants my vote, he needs to think bigger.

I don't think that people would run a mayor out of town if unemployment were at 4-5 percent.  It is just that some people will never be satisfied because it gives them a reason to be unreasonable.

And why is Brown the only one who has to think bigger? 
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin

He is not.. he is the only one CAPABLE of thinking bigger ;)

Jimmy

Alvin Brown had his best two weeks of fundraising ever.  Over $60k reported from 3/26 - 4/8.  Huge for momentum.  Maybe it pushed Rummell over the top?

Timkin


tufsu1

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Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Quote4-6% Unemployment rate is COMPLETELY normal because of people changing jobs, going to schools, quit for person reasons, etc etc.

Sure you do, but tell that to the 50,000 still unemployed. We got down to 3% when the economy was running full board. We can do the same with the assets we have here, but its short sightedness to leave opportunities on the table. If I wanted more votes, I would have gone with a bigger number. Hogan did not say anything or have any numbers, if Brown wants my vote, he needs to think bigger.

every state forecast I've seen says Florida will have 8+ percent unemployment for at least 4 more years...and the national number won't dip much below that

The days of 3-4% unemployment may be gone

FayeforCure

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 15, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
QuoteSorry mtrain, but the suburbs didnt actually go for Mike.  The westside did.

Stephen - We shall see soon. Folks in Mandarin, if they care at all, won't appreciate seeing their revenues going to fix something they deem as unsafe and unneeded. Come to think of neither will the westside, beaches or northside.

Except maybe for the Westside, but I can tell you other suburbs take pride in a vibrant DT!

This from a suburbanite who LOVES DT.

BTW how will we attract business to Jax by focusing on the bedroom communities surrounding Jax?

How do we create JOBS by focusing on those bedroom communities?

It's a flawed approach to making Jacksonville attractive to BUSINESS!!!
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