The Issues by Mayoral Candidate Alvin Brown

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 08, 2011, 06:19:47 AM

thelakelander

It looks like one live debate is all the public will be getting between now and election day.

Mike Hogan rejects Alvin Brown's call for more TV, radio mayoral debates

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2011-04-08/story/mike-hogan-rejects-alvin-browns-call-more-tv-radio-mayoral-debates#ixzz1IxVFHFsC
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

danem

Quote"We appreciate your offer to host an additional debate, but unfortunately the campaign is going in a different direction for debates and forums we will attend along with Mr. Brown," Isaac wrote to Kim.

What does that mean? Debates and forums off the air?

mfc

To those who are concerned about alvins references to his faith in god. Just my opinion, but I know Alvin. There is a difference between using your faith as weapon or as an inspiration. To me, just my opinion, Alvin uses his faith as inspiration only. There is a big difference.  Matt Carlucci sr

Timkin

Not concerned about that at all..  Alvin at least has an APPRECIABLE  Outline of his vision as mayor. Never came across to me as a weapon :)


wsansewjs

Quote from: mfc on April 08, 2011, 02:53:25 PM
To those who are concerned about alvins references to his faith in god. Just my opinion, but I know Alvin. There is a difference between using your faith as weapon or as an inspiration. To me, just my opinion, Alvin uses his faith as inspiration only. There is a big difference.  Matt Carlucci sr

I thank you for letting us know. Coming from someone who I trust like you and I do take your words for it. Faith as the source of inspiration is more powerful than bible-slapping people's faces.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Timkin

Josh.. I agree.. and I also think it is good to have faith... just not shove it down others throats.  As to another debate... I kinda think it speaks for itself if Hogan declines ... Good.  YET ANOTHER reason I would not vote for him.

wsansewjs

Quote from: stephendare on April 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 08, 2011, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: mfc on April 08, 2011, 02:53:25 PM
To those who are concerned about alvins references to his faith in god. Just my opinion, but I know Alvin. There is a difference between using your faith as weapon or as an inspiration. To me, just my opinion, Alvin uses his faith as inspiration only. There is a big difference.  Matt Carlucci sr

I thank you for letting us know. Coming from someone who I trust like you and I do take your words for it. Faith as the source of inspiration is more powerful than bible-slapping people's faces.

-Josh

This goes both ways Josh.  People are entitled to their beliefs, and its seriously becoming an annoyance that people's privately held religious convictions are somehow supposed to be held up for criticism.

I personally don't care if someone says "Jesus' 2340 times a day, as long as the bus works, the electrical rates are fair, and the government is well run.  I also don't care if they murmur sufi chants softly the entire time that I am filing a business license.  And they better not care when Im humming along to Avenue Q.

Its just not really my business, and not an indicator of whether or not they can do their job.

You cannot expect tolerance if you cannot also give it.

So can we please lay off the tiresome diatribes against religious belief?

Casually intelligently discussed threads are one thing, but axe grinding isnt enjoyable for anyone.

Duly noted and acknowledged. I simply lol'd at your humming of Avenue Q.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Jaxson

I can only speak for myself when I say that Christianity is not the problem that I have with politicians who openly express their faith.  I consider myself to be a Christian and believe that faith is an important part of my life.  I believe that tolerance and acceptance should apply to all faiths, religions and creeds.  I take issue with politicians who use their religion as a cynical way to score political points. 
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Timkin


finehoe

Quote from: stephendare on April 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM
...its seriously becoming an annoyance that people's privately held religious convictions are somehow supposed to be held up for criticism.

The key word here is privately.  If someone is mentioning their religion every other word in almost every public pronouncement, that can hardly be deemed private.

wsansewjs

Quote from: finehoe on April 08, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM
...its seriously becoming an annoyance that people's privately held religious convictions are somehow supposed to be held up for criticism.

The key word here is privately.  If someone is mentioning their religion every other word in almost every public pronouncement, that can hardly be deemed private.

Finehoe just pointed out the statement I was trying to make.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Coolyfett

Quote from: jcjohnpaint on April 08, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
Also new after looking back at Hogan's Issues- somebody needs to tell they guy he isn't running for federal office.  I cannot find too many things that he says that will directly respond to the local issues.  If Hogan does mention points- his points are not strategic or in any kind of detail.  Even if he is far to the right- I still would like to hear (in detail) how he plans to fix fix fix

This

This

& more This!

He sounds like he is running for Governor or a Senate seat & not a mayor. I dont think Alvin Brown will win after all it is Jacksonville people doing the voting. Enjoy this lil ride of hope while it last yall.
Mike Hogan Destruction Eruption!

Jaxson

Quote from: Timkin on April 08, 2011, 04:04:53 PM
Do you take issue with me, Jaxson ? ;)

Never!!!  Our city needs more people like you!  I don't care what mtraininjax says ; )
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

cityimrov

#58
I need to know something.  What is Alvin Brown's stance on social and moral and freedom of speech laws?  Local level governments have a big say in what people are allowed to do and what they aren't allowed to do.  They can make legal things a big hassle to do.  What is his general stance on "sin" stuff (bars, liquor stores, gambling, smoking parlors, adult clubs, etc)?  How about things like offensive material?  Is he for or against laws which limit access to specific materials to minors similar to what people in California has done?  (Example: Making it a crime to sell M rated games like Grand Theft Auto to minors).  

What is his ideas on diversity and minority rights?  If another controversial figure like Parvez (or someone who is Islam, Openly Gay, Atheist, etc) appears again for a city office and somehow get's in the media, will he back him up like Peyton did or will he stay neutral or say no?

I'm guessing Hogan's stance is aligned closer to First Baptist and the Tea Party so I have a pretty decent idea of what he wants to go in that direction but what about Brown?  

Politicians have a tendency to go to moral and social issues when economic problems start popping up.  I want to know their stances on this should the temptation to go that direction takes a hold in this city.  

danem

Quote from: stephendare on April 08, 2011, 07:15:16 PM
Quote from: finehoe on April 08, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM
...its seriously becoming an annoyance that people's privately held religious convictions are somehow supposed to be held up for criticism.

The key word here is privately.  If someone is mentioning their religion every other word in almost every public pronouncement, that can hardly be deemed private.

Meh.

I don't think private is synonymous with secret, do you?

Unless they are making laws that are meant to preclude the views of people who believe differently than they do, I don't think it passes over into the public realm.



Everyone has their convictions about things, religious or otherwise. It's very much a part of them. One day we'll have a vegetarian President. I wouldn't care, and it doesn't have to be "private", but I sure hope he or she doesn't sign an executive order banning delicious steaks.