The Issues by Mayoral Candidate Mike Hogan

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 07, 2011, 06:06:40 AM

bill

Quote from: bill on April 07, 2011, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Irene on April 07, 2011, 10:36:10 AM
We need someone who will help Jax flourish- not make it unbearable.
Let's vote for the candidate who has actual proven record in helping the community, a candidate who has REAL credentials in all areas.

Who would that be?
Mullaney was the best choice from a poor lot. The remaining two do not have anything that would qualify as REAL credentials in any area.  

Cliffs_Daughter

Quote from: Timkin on April 07, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 07, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
This has to be the least inspiring bit of penny misery that Ive ever read in my whole life.

It sounds more like the platform of a county surveyor in Amish country than then mayor of America's 13th largest city.

Other than Mtrain, does anyone know anyone who is planning on voting for Parson Hogan?

Timkin is  NOT VOTING FOR HOGAN.. No effing way
Sweetie, if you said you WERE, I'd pay to have your head examined.   ;)
Heather  @Tiki_Proxima

Ignorantia legis non excusat.

Timkin

Mullaney.....the one who got the least votes :)   mhm

Timkin

Quote from: Cliffs_Daughter on April 07, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Timkin on April 07, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 07, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
This has to be the least inspiring bit of penny misery that Ive ever read in my whole life.

It sounds more like the platform of a county surveyor in Amish country than then mayor of America's 13th largest city.

Other than Mtrain, does anyone know anyone who is planning on voting for Parson Hogan?

Timkin is  NOT VOTING FOR HOGAN.. No effing way
Sweetie, if you said you WERE, I'd pay to have your head examined.   ;)

Never......I know you're here to keep me in line ;)

Noone

Quote from: CityLife on April 07, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Noone on April 07, 2011, 02:01:58 PM

Has anyone heard from Gaffney on the pier and Hogans Creek? I'm in absolute shock that the residents of Springfield are giving this legislative representative the biggest pass on these two issues.


There is no bike or pedestrian access along Hogan's Creek from Springfield to the River. In that respect Springfield is as geographically disconnected from this issue as Riverside and San Marco.

Frankly, Springfield residents should and likely are a lot more interested and concerned about the Hogan's Creek Greenway plan which proposes to improve Confederate and Klutho Parks in Springfield. It would be great to have a greenway all the way from Confederate Park to the River someday, but until that happens Springfield residents will be a lot more focused on their own parks.

Also, what does the transient vendor ban have to do with any of this?

Do Something.

Have you ever been to a Jacksonville city council meeting? We paddled Hogans Creek together. You saw first hand the potential. You showed me Klutho and Confederate Park. Thank you.

You want the pedestrian and bike access? Get down to a city council meeting and tell them to move the fence back. I bet it would happen. NOW! Ask. It makes sense to me. As for partial funding if its tied into a canoe and kayak launch under the FDOT overpass it could be submitted in time for next years cycle of FIND projects and if this really fires you up you can show up on Tues. and ask that some of the lollipop money be earmarked for the Klutho and Confederate park and make it happen.

And the streetcar component to all this......Its a LOCK if you ask OCK.

2010-856 is huge. Imagine somebody rents a kayak  on Hogans Creek at Klutho or Confederate park from a permanent building. The ord. would restrict a transient vendor from participating one mile from that structure. What a JOKE! Be concerned its pending legislation.  

For over 2 years I've attended FIND meetings (Florida Inland Navigation District) Not many ,but my first was in Jax with this question. If a citizen wanted to raise half the cost of a pocket pier (Floating dock) at a waterfront Public access street end would the members of FIND match the other half. The answer was a resounding YES. You need a sponsor a city council man. Over two years later and I don't have a sponsor. HUGE JOKE! This months meeting is in Flagler county. I'm serious when I say the state of Florida is watching and we are a JOKE.

CityLife, Please share your thoughts on what you experienced that day we paddled on Hogans Creek. I know you showed me some parts of Springfield that I haven't been to. I can appreciate what the residents would like to have.

bill

Quote from: stephendare on April 07, 2011, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: bill on April 07, 2011, 03:20:26 PM
As inane as most of that reads. The most important thing any Mayor is going to have to deal with is the pension funds. I have not heard anything from either candidate regarding that. Hard to not raise taxes if we allow EMTs retire at 50 years old.

Bill can you find any math that proves that the Pension funds actually need to be dealt with?

It is pretty much common sense. You cannot sustain having people retire between 40-50 years old and pay 80% of their salary all while paying an 8.5% return. The unfunded liabilty is at least 2 BILLION dollars. The pensions are taking more than 11% of the general fund and rising. Here is a link.

http://www.jaxtaxpayers.org/curtis-lee%e2%80%99s-11410-speech-to-jacksonville%e2%80%99s-true-commission-re-jacksonville%e2%80%99s-public-pension-problems/#more-744



finehoe

I'm surprised he didn't work "protect the sanctity of marriage" in there somewhere.

Timkin


finehoe

I'm guessing from reading that platform that the first thing Mayor Hogan would do upon taking office wouldn't have anything to do with Hogan's Creek or the pier, but something along the lines of opening an investigation into the veracity of Obama's birth certificate.

Timkin

Yeah....something REALLY Important for Downtown.

mtraininjax

Quotebut something along the lines of opening an investigation into the veracity of Obama's birth certificate.

Nah, we have Donald Trump looking into that one!  ::)
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TheProfessor

nothing about smart growth ore public transportation.

Anti redneck

Mike Hogan would make Jacksonville go backwards. The worst part is that he will get elected. Saps in Jacksonville eat this up. It's sad that no one cares about this city. That no one wants this city to become a city. That these saps want to keep Jacksonville boring and redneck. Anything that will help Jacksonville become a real city (i.e. the Jaguars) Mike Hogan will get rid of. It's sad. Just sad.

cityimrov

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Quote from: Anti redneck on April 08, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
Mike Hogan would make Jacksonville go backwards. The worst part is that he will get elected. Saps in Jacksonville eat this up. It's sad that no one cares about this city. That no one wants this city to become a city. That these saps want to keep Jacksonville boring and redneck. Anything that will help Jacksonville become a real city (i.e. the Jaguars) Mike Hogan will get rid of. It's sad. Just sad.

Not necessarily.  Our geography is still too good.  Our location is nearly perfect for all types of businesses - especially transportation and distribution for the rest of Florida and Georgia.  Even if our citizens and politicians are incompetent and lazy, progress will still head our way.  Jacksonville will still get growth, not really because of it's people but because of it's wonderful location.  The St Johns River makes things even better for us!  It's a super bonus for the city.  The lack of hurricanes here also helps more then you can imagine.  

Hogan's policies can work because we are unusually blessed by this geography.  Other parts of the state and other companies from out of state will be forced to choose Jacksonville because its geography holds them hostage.  

"Sure, we could do a bit more work and become a mega city like San Francisco but why do all that work when we don't have to?"  This is probably what quite a lot of people are thinking.  To win their votes, you probably need to figure out a good counter argument to this.

dougskiles

Quote from: cityimrov on April 08, 2011, 04:17:12 AM
Not necessarily.  Our geography is still too good.  Our location is nearly perfect for all types of businesses - especially transportation and distribution for the rest of Florida and Georgia.  Even if our citizens and politicians are incompetent and lazy, progress will still head our way.  Jacksonville will still get growth, not really because of it's people but because of it's wonderful location.  The St Johns River makes things even better for us!  It's a super bonus for the city.  The lack of hurricanes here also helps more then you can imagine.  

I think you may have put your finger on why our city won't move forward and always seems content with the status quo.  We have certain geographic advantages that we don't have to work at all for.  There is an attitude here that Jacksonville is just naturally better than other places.  It becomes more evident to me every time I travel.  There seems to be a collective arrogance here and what we need is a collective humble pride.