Mayoral candidates don't agree on extending JTA gas tax in 2017

[Ocklawaha]

Heavy Highway Tax,  Road Tax, Heavy Vehicle Use Tax, Heavy Haulers vehicle tax, Trucker Tax, annual registration fee,  excise tax,  vehicle surcharges, personal property tax, high-occupancy toll, Direct · Indirect · Ad valorem, Capital gains, Consumption Dividend, Excise, Georgist Gift, Gross receipts, Income Inheritance (estate), Land value Payroll,  Pigovian,  Property Sales,   Sin,   Stamp, Turnover Value-added (VAT) Corporate profit, Excess profits Windfall profits, Contengency fees, CDD fees, fuel taxes,  State Taxation of Gasoline,
State Taxation of Special Fuels, Motor-Fuel Tax Provisions on Interstate Motor Carriers,  State Licenses and Fees Imposed on Wholesale Distributors of Motor Fuel,  State Licenses and Fees Imposed on Retail Dealers of Motor Fuel,  State Licenses and Fees Imposed on Users of Motor Fuel,  State Liquid-Fuels Inspection Fees
Federal Highway-User Fees, Selective Parking Taxes, urban property tax, Transportation Development Tax


This ought to get you started! Imagine 99% of these just so we can run the Skyway... AMAZING!

OCKLAWAHA 

[FayeforCure]

BTW...as to the gas tax itself...the Federal tax is $0.19...let's assume someone drives 20,000 miles a year and that their car averages 25mpg....means 800 gallons of gas a year and $152 in taxes...which equates to $13 a month.

As for the local gas tax, the $0.06 costs the average driver about $4 a month...even if I didn't like or use transit, I'd pay that much just to keep some other folks off the road and lessen my congestion.

How many of our other utilities (like water, cable TV, phone, electric) can be had for that price?

Great points tufsu1! I so wish people wouldn't have such a knee-jerk reaction to the word "taxes." After all, taxes are the price you pay to live and do business in a civilized society!!

It continues to annoy me that the federal tax was set at $0.19 per gallon in 1993. They could have at least indexed it to inflation..............but it really would have been best if it had been set at 19% which is what the $0.19 represented at the roughly $1 price tag per gallon that we enjoyed in 1993.

With people driving less due to high gas prices and the reduced consumprion from fuel efficient cars, we have a huge deficit in federal revenues needed to repair our failing bridges and roads. We are stuck with 1. when we should have 2.

1. less gallons sold X .19 ( which used to be 19% of our 1993 gallon price) = less for needed bridge and road repairs.

2. less gallons sold X 19% of higher price per gallon = enough to repair and maintain

Across the nation, drivers face more than 90,000 miles of crumbling highways and more than 70,000 structurally deficient bridges.

http://www.floridapirgstudents.org/reports/energy/energy-reports/road-work-ahead-holding-government-accountable-for-fixing-americas-crumbling-roads-and-bridges

On the local level Audrey Moran was right on the need to support transit ( and she would have had my vote if I were to reside in Duval). I hope she will convince Alvin Brown of the same so he can disinguish himself on that point from Hogan.

Let's hope Audrey will endorse Alvin Brown for Mayor!!

[Dashing Dan]

I favor a gas tax extension but I'm biased.  I feel that the overall outcome of the Better Jacksonville Plan (BJP) was a disappointment, so it would be hard to sell the public on more taxes for transportation.  There should have been more planning before the BJP was funded.

[mtraininjax]

After all, taxes are the price you pay to live and do business in a civilized society!!

Yeah, that's exactly what the founding fathers thought to do, tax the hell out of everyone, we want to create a new land that is equally as oppresive as the one we just left in England. Not to mention a debtor society to the rest of the world. But, hey what did they know right?

[mtraininjax]

and they certainly werent anti tax.

There you go again, as quoted by Reagan, re-writing history, seems I remember some indian-like citizens in a certain harbor......yeah, what were they doing again Stephen? Singing campfire songs and banding together like a union?

[buckethead]

They were against their money being spent without having some say so as to how it was spent.

GO DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM!

[Ocklawaha]

You boys ever hear of the "Whiskey Rebellion?" When our founding fathers decided the national debit could use a little extra help and they taxed the shit out of spirits, nearly leading to a full fledged war...  Things quieted down only after this land founded on supposed freedom from tax oppression called in the Continental Army to round up the stills! Damn tax and spend founding fathers anyway!

The Whiskey Rebellion
George Washington's Proclamation calling Out The Militia To Occupy the Western Counties of Pennsylvania
As It Appears In the August 11, 1794 issue of Claypoole's Daily Advertiser

Angered by an excise tax imposed on whiskey in 1791 by the federal government, farmers in the western counties of Pennsylvania engaged in a series of attacks on excise agents.

The tariff effectively eliminated any profit by the farmers from the sale or barter of an important cash crop, and became the lightning rod for a wide variety of grievances by the settlers of the region against the federal government.

While citizens in the east did not find it difficult to abide by the concept that individual states were "subservient to the country," people west of the mountains were less accepting of decisions made by the central government.

The rebel farmers continued their attacks, rioting in river towns and roughing up tax collectors until the so-called "insurrection" flared into the open in July of 1794 when a federal marshal was attacked in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Almost at the same time several hundred men attacked the residence of the regional inspector, burning his home, barn and several outbuildings. Pittsburgh was another scene of disorder by enraged mobs.

On August 7, 1794, President Washington issued a proclamation, calling out the militia and ordering the disaffected westerners to return to their homes. Washington's order mobilized an army of approximately 13,000 â€" as large as the one that had defeated the British â€" under the command of General Harry Lee, the then-Governor of Virginia and father of Robert E. Lee. Washington himself, in a show of presidential authority, set out at the head of the troops to suppress the uprising.

This was the first use of the Militia Law of 1792 setting a precedent for the use of the militia to "execute the laws of the union, (and) suppress insurrections," asserting the right of the national government to enforce order in one state with troops raised in other states. Even more importantly, it was the first test of power of the new federal government, establishing its primacy in disputes with individual states. In the end, a dozen or so men were arrested, sent to Philadelphia to trial and released after pardons by Washington.
SOURCE: http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/whiskey/

Someone please tell me again how George Washington and the Sons of Liberty were anti-tax?

OCKLAWAHA