Libya?

[RMHoward]

So, we are keeping all options open (per Obama administration) to deal with whats happening in Libya.  I wonder how many of you Bush-Bashers will show consistency and accuse this president of involving us in an illegal military action for no other reason than oil. My money is on none of you.  Will wait and see. 

[JeffreyS]

Lets see if he involves us in such an action first.

[JeffreyS]

Are there people who still feel we were involved in those wars for reasons other than oil?

[NotNow]

  So the invasion of Kuwait had nothing to do with it?  We should have allowed the Middle-East to fall under the control of Hussein's Iraq? 

What IS worth fighting for?  President Obama said in his campaign that the Afghanistan war was "justified".  Is he right? ...or wrong?  Is it worth it to engage the Somolian pirates?  At sea?  On the ground in Somolia?  What if NK invades the South?  Is every situation a negotiation?

And yes, there are people who feel that our involvment was not about "oil", whatever that means.

[RMHoward]

Oh wait, thats right, he is too busy restarting the gitmo terrorist trials back up to get involved in Libya for the time being.   Damn, thats funny, he is finally doing something right.  Really must gall alot of you that he is restarting these trials after promising to close club gitmo.   BTW, lets see, how many democrat presidencies did Qudafi live through?    

[JeffreyS]

I concede that I was wrong and snide. I disagree with the invasion of Irag but I believe there were good and bad reasons.  I should have said oil was a reason in both of those wars.

[Garden guy]

I wish the best for the Libian people..they've put up with an asshole for too many years...i know if i had to put up with george bush for that long i'd be doing the same as they....they deserve a new fresh fair start.

[RMHoward]

I wish the best for the Libian people..they've put up with an asshole for too many years...i know if i had to put up with george bush for that long i'd be doing the same as they....they deserve a new fresh fair start.

Well you had him for 8 years.  What did you do about it?  Did you take to arms and protest in the streets?  Funny tough guy.   Get ready for Jeb in a few years.  The trifecta will be complete.

[civil42806]

Well I would not be for any military action in Libya.  Its something that the UN can do without us mucking about over there.  Ghadafi was supported by Bush, incidentally.

He is a monster, but he is the problem of the Libyan people.  We should be standing ready to aid prodemocracy groups, but we should not be invading a sovereign country in the middle of a revolution.

Lets see if Obama makes up lies about Ghadafi possessing the Qbomb or working with offworld ETs to rain down destruction on the US.  Maybe he can trick Robert Gates into lying about it at the UN.  Maybe it will turn out that his dad is actually on the board of directors for Ghadafi's oil cartel.

Maybe he will out a deep undercover CIA operative in order to cover up his lies and get her entire network of informants liquidated as a result.  Maybe Biden's chief of Staff will get blamed for it and get a wrist slapped.

That would make it a lot more like Bush.

Stephen just out of interest what do you think that the UN will do about it.  That would require security council approval, do you really think that will happen?

[RMHoward]

Seriously?  The UN do anything militarily without the US?  Come on dude.  Its the friggin UN.

[Garden guy]

I wish the best for the Libian people..they've put up with an asshole for too many years...i know if i had to put up with george bush for that long i'd be doing the same as they....they deserve a new fresh fair start.

Well you had him for 8 years.  What did you do about it?  Did you take to arms and protest in the streets?  Funny tough guy.   Get ready for Jeb in a few years.  The trifecta will be complete.

I did'nt have anything mister...i've been busting my ass over the years dealing with the ideaocy of the right wing concervative attack on america...they are a country and there are processes to deal with all of this and i'm sure it'll work it self out....

[JeffreyS]

You can definitely believe I will be screaming long before a decade that sees eight year olds grow up to be sent to the middle east to die for a war any president starts. I will be screaming long before we borrow and spend 3 trillion dollars blowing things up and rebuilding them in the mideast while claiming we do not have money to build things here.  I will be screaming long before the defense secretary admits their reason for going to war didn't pan out.

We are not against the war in Iraq because it is partisan but because it is a stupid net waste.

[BridgeTroll]

Well I would not be for any military action in Libya.  Its something that the UN can do without us mucking about over there.  Ghadafi was supported by Bush, incidentally.

Hmmm... Reagan tried to take gaddaffi out... and President Obama has been a supporter of gaddaffi since he was elected.  W only lifted sanctions after Crazy G agreed to stop pursuing WMD.

US sanctions:

1981 President Ronald Reagan invalidates use of US passports for travel to Libya.

1982 The US bans imports of Libyan oil and a number of exports to Libya, following a deterioration of relations.

1986 Berlin disco bombing leads to sanctions being widened to include a total ban on direct import and export trade, commercial contracts and travel-related activities.

1996 The Iran-Libya Sanctions Act is passed.

2001 The Act is amended to allow the US president to punish non-US firms investing more than $20 million annually in the energy sectors in Libya or Iran.

2003 Washington says it will not oppose the lifting of UN sanctions, but maintains its own.

2004 The US lifts many economic sanctions and restores diplomatic ties after Libya publicly turns its back on weapons of mass destruction. However, the country remains on Washington's list of state sponsors of terror, so arms exports are still banned, as is the export of so-called "dual-use" items.

[buckethead]

I initially heard very little from the Commander in Chief regarding the US taking military action in Libya.

I liked it.

Now I hear he is letting France and Britain take the lead.

I like it.

If he refuses to put troops on the ground, I'll like it.

I'm still hoping he doesn't send air power as well.

Let the peoples of Africa, Asia and Europe deal with their neighbors. I'm not convinced that they have a role to play, but considering the legacies and consequences of colonialism, there is a case to be made for it.

So far, President Obama gets an attaboy from BH on his handling of Libya.

Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something. (read: health insurance reform bill)

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

A French military spokesman says it has destroyed its first target in Libya, according to Reuters:

FRENCH AIRCRAFT HAVE DESTROYED THEIR FIRST TARGET IN LIBYA -MILITARY SPOKESMA

Could you replace 'in Libya with 'since WWI' and still be correct?