Mayoral candidates Mullaney, Moran debate land use and planning

Started by thelakelander, January 27, 2011, 09:37:53 PM

thelakelander

QuoteMayoral candidates Audrey Moran and Rick Mullaney answered questions about land use, growth and development at a Thursday night forum by a group of land use, building, and development industry groups.

The tone was decidedly civil after tension earlier in the week, when Moran earned the fiercely contested Chamber of Commerce endorsement and the two sparred at a debate just hours later.

Some of the key topics are below.

full article: http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/deirdre-conner/2011-01-27/mayoral-candidates-mullaney-moran-debate-land-use-an-0
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tufsu1

apparently downtown issues were generally not discussed....they are being saved for a DVI event on 2/17

Also, Mullaney and Moran followed up the event at the Modis building by joining several minor candidates at a forum at the JCA....Brown and Hogan were conspicuously absent at both events!

Steve

Not that I'm hugely into the Green thing, but I think it is important.  Total BS answers from both sides on that according to the TU

thelakelander

Why is Hogan not participating in all of these forum events?
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tufsu1

Quote from: Steve on January 27, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
Not that I'm hugely into the Green thing, but I think it is important.  Total BS answers from both sides on that according to the TU

the TU provided very short blurbs...Audrey's answer was more extensive....Rick pretty much said what was printd.

tufsu1

Quote from: thelakelander on January 27, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
Why is Hogan not participating in all of these forum events?

some people were surmising tonight that he is hiding....but another blog about the later forum reported another reason

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/jim-schoettler/2011-01-27/write-jacksonville-mayoral-candidate-draws-cheers


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Steve on January 27, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
Not that I'm hugely into the Green thing, but I think it is important.  Total BS answers from both sides on that according to the TU

I don't know your experience with the commercial side of green building, and Lake would probably disagree with me on this, but it's a joke.  Guess what?  Most of the items you use are already produced with a good amount of recycled materials - now we just have to document it with...... lots and lots of paper and even more time.  It's a good thing that trees are renewable.
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thelakelander

Imo, the greenest building is one that already exists.  You want green....support historic preservation and adaptive reuse.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: thelakelander on January 27, 2011, 11:00:55 PM
Imo, the greenest building is one that already exists.  You want green....support historic preservation and adaptive reuse.

I've seen you post statements like that before, sorry, it's just that there's so many in the design/development world that are pushing this green shit down our throats - at the on-set I was on-board and thought it was a great thing, once I realized the actuality of it, became a hater.
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JHAT76

Anyone find it a bit scary that Moran wants to hire a "Chief Executive" for every issue?  Isn't the mayor supposed to be the Chief Executive?

simms3

Quote from: thelakelander on January 27, 2011, 11:00:55 PM
Imo, the greenest building is one that already exists.  You want green....support historic preservation and adaptive reuse.

There is a relatively new standard called LEED EB, for existing building.  My alma mater is an EB leader, transforming old and even relatively new buildings into LEED certified buildings.  In many cases, to receive a silver rating is quite easy.  You just need to change out the HVAC, replace water fixtures with low flow, replace light fixtures with fluorescent, add some solar panels to power basic functions like recycling compressor, change out the elevators, add CO2/motion sensors to put lights and AC on autopilot, and wa-la, you have yourself an "energy efficient" building.  It really helps that the building is already existing because LEED does take into account material use.

BTW, there is a difference between building to LEED silver, gold, or platinum standards, and actually going for the certification.  The certification part costs money, takes time, and lots of paperwork must be filled out.  A certification does not even last for very long and must be "renewed" and kept up as standards become more stringent.

Also, in almost all cases, to build to at least Silver rating (whether or not you go for official certification is different...but to at least build to the standard) is not likely to add more than 5% to the total construction costs.  In many cases, construction could even be less.

I personally like the green construction movement, and preservation is now a large part of that.  Green construction standards have even been adopted for fast food restaurants now (almost everything).

On the candidates: I preferred most of Moran's answers, but I liked Mullaney's answer for our cruise port the best.  He clearly wants to push for Mayport and I agree with that.

On Hogan...he "snubbed" the forum for a young Republicans event sounds about right.  I just know he is going to politicize the whole process.  What a scumbag lowlife.  I hope he goes down in flames.
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dougskiles

Quote from: thelakelander on January 27, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
Why is Hogan not participating in all of these forum events?

My guess is that those running his campaign don't believe debating in a public forum is his strength.  And if they don't feel that way, they better start getting him out there soon because that is the message coming across.

Regardless of where they stand on the issues, if someone doesn't have the skill set to perform the duties of mayor (which is going to involve lots of public debate), why would I vote for them?

mtraininjax

QuoteWhy is Hogan not participating in all of these forum events?

I heard yesterday that Hogan is having a hard time raising additional funds. Moran and Mullaney are not having the same issue. My source also informed me that Peyton spent closer to 4 million in 2003 to win the election, most of his own money.

To become mayor of our great city, do you need to spend, maybe upwards of 5 million? Is it worth it?  :-\
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