Rick Scott's Anti-Transit Tool: Robert Poole, Reason Foundation

Started by FayeforCure, January 07, 2011, 04:01:42 PM

Jumpinjack

I've heard that LaHood will give the $2.4 billion to other states tomorrow, Friday.

thelakelander

Reports yesterday stated the federal government wants to work with Florida's HSR backers to see if they can salvage the plan before moving the $2.4 billion.  Yesterday's reports also stated that they would not be meeting until tomorrow.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

FayeforCure

In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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mtraininjax

QuoteA metropolitan planning organization in Tampa and a rail authority in South Florida have volunteered to step forward in place of the state to accept oversight of the bullet-train project and the $2.4 billion from Uncle Sam. Lawyers are researching how to do it," Nelson said

Would the City of Tampa be on the hook for overruns?
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

thelakelander

No, the private sector, that's been claiming they'll cover any potential overruns and funding gaps for a chance to capture a good share of the future US HSR market, would.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

Quote from: FayeforCure on February 17, 2011, 02:00:55 PM

And a shout out to John Mica too, who for once unequivocably sided with Florida HSR against Tea Party ideology:


I'm siding w/ Faye here...although in typical Mica fashion, he didn't meet wioth LaHood (left that for 5 Democrats) but then joined them for a press conference after

btw...see below...looks like the Legislature is very unhappy w/ Scott..Faye posted this elsewhere

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/17/2072075/scott-rebuked-by-26-senators-over.html#

lesson here...it helps to understand the political process before governing!

mtraininjax

QuoteNo, the private sector

Lots of risk for the private sector without much upside. Would the Feds instruct SBA to write loans for the contractors? Who would use their own private equity for something that has never been built in Florida? I know I'd use the Feds money or the banks before putting my own capital into it.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

thelakelander

Several groups have been interesting in investing their money into Florida's system.  I don't think its the most sound plan or best route but I see no problem in allowing the bidding process to take place.  Unless, there is fear that a group would actually be willing to take a financial risk on it.  If we really want to vet its feasibility, let the private sector bid on it.  If it's not worth the private investment risk, it will end up like the Outer Beltway.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

There are 8 consortiums, all of which ionclude big European/Asian rail operators, that have shown interest....here's the reason....the winner of the Tampa-Orlando route gets first right of refusal for Orlando-Miami

FayeforCure

Just had to share this hillarious quote if it wasn't so disasterous:

QuoteThe National Association of Railroad Passengers assailed the Reason Foundation report by referring to one of its authors, Wendell Cox, as a "regressive hallucination" by an "untrained transportation expert who makes his living writing propaganda for pro-road causes," including a grid of double-decked, 10-lane freeways in Atlanta.


http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/feb/24/241052/scotts-rail-decision-highlights-conflicting-assump/news-breaking/

BTW the above article offers the most lucid rebuttal of the hideous propaganda that Scott put out against HSR.

Too bad the majority of the media keeps letting Scott's claim of "the state being on the hook for billions" go unrefuted.

The typical article goes:

QuoteScott says.........

but advocates say.........

It's what they call false equivalency in reporting.

Scott's claim is patently false and should be called out as such: a blatent LIE.

A final warning: beware of cute named front groups like Reason Foundation, the only reason they spew is Pro-OIL propaganda!!!!
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood