Anti-Rail Republicans Ideologically Oppose Trains

[yapp1850]

tampa union station is only good if coming from north  or east, Marion transit Center is more center location because you have  better connection from n,s,e,w  and i dout hart will move the station i do like brt ns line it will benfit me

[yapp1850]

i really hoping hart can some type of  train that can  csx track to high speed station because a some people do not like a bus

[yapp1850]

i predit  tu will be use for  communter, intercity rail,   high speed raill be use for  light raill.bullet train i just hope  the 2 stations are connected by some type of train

[Ocklawaha]

hey ock

see this why tampa high speed station is better than tampa union station. main bus station is across the street and csx will not allow light rail on their  property between ybor city and union station becauce it has be  50 ft from the main line or 25 ft with a  barrier wall so csx no lease or buy it look like hart is look at palm ave  to go through city

Don't believe everything you hear, especially from the Florida HSR project!

OCKLAWAHA

[yapp1850]

but what about  csx safety spacing 25-50 ft  rule

[yapp1850]

light rail must stop at union station

[yapp1850]

maybee we can use diesel-electric train

[yapp1850]

i am realy hoping  series 8 train from talgo comes florida if we did use union station but prey if it does.

[yapp1850]

i hope just rick scott says this the train is too much and we downsise  so get use csx track   tu,lakeland,kissimmee,orlando

[yapp1850]

they state did a sudy  2009  on  8 round trip a day one csx track  time 1.30  why can;t state do that.  can the state use funds for that instead

[Ocklawaha]

but what about  csx safety spacing 25-50 ft  rule

Railroads are a business, and when the business see's that having LIGHT RAIL right alongside their tracks will: Expand capacity, Eliminate Crossings, and Improve Signaling, they will come around.

Keep in mind that if HART actually does create a COMMUTER RAIL line or two, the final mile into TAMPA UNION STATION might be side by side with LRT and BRT. COMMUTER RAIL might also mean that Florida and Tampa will own the 60 miles or so of trackage that the COMMUTES operate over.

light rail must stop at union station

Most of the plans HART has published show LIGHT RAIL and BRT into UNION STATION. Though unlike JTA (which actually has done a MUCH better job of fixing their plans) HART has literally been all over the map with their mass transit proposals and at least a few of their ideas make the JTA BRT plan look wonderful!

maybee we can use diesel-electric train

Certainly is a possibility is we finally abandon the I-4 HSR nonsense, though my crystal ball would forecast a Talgo style tilting train, with turbine power.  The advantage of turbines in passenger rail is that they run at a constant very high speed (which is why they sound like jets - which are close relatives) which produces enormous power allowing for large motors. These new locomotives as fast in acceleration and deceleration using regenerative braking - imagine for the sake of this post something like 4,000 HP producing 2,900 KW constant.

i am realy hoping  series 8 train from talgo comes florida if we did use union station but prey if it does.

If it passes the FRA requirements it would be a good choice. Those that don't know what it is check out the photo.

i hope just rick scott says this the train is too much and we downsise  so get use csx track   tu,lakeland,kissimmee,orlando

Seems a lot more logical, spending much less and getting many more trains and train routes would be the result. At the very least pull in the HSR plans to something like railroad practice, downtown to downtown, use CSX or FEC to get in and out.

Yes, at 79 MPH Orlando-Tampa, and 110 MPH, Auburndale-Miami.

OCKLAWAHA

[FayeforCure]

Again republicans prove thier unevolved ways...the world has proven that trains are better yet they still scream no no no...when are to evolved humans to tell the to shut their mouth and go home and sleep or what ever they do....with the republicans in this state...they keep us at least 50 years behind all other states...thanks guys...

Careful, they will quote you a few forward looking Republicans..........maybe a handful of them, and then claim we have to plead and convince the other regressives to come on board too.

Better to start off with enlightened people to begin with.

It hasn't worked to get any regressives to come around. That's why Scott is waivering: he knows the state NEEDS jobs, but he's afraid of the wrath of the Tea Party!!

[BridgeTroll]

Better to start off with enlightened people to begin with.

Is that you and garden guy?  Or the ones who cannot be bothered to vote?

[north miami]

Am in a state of twilight zone having just returned from over a week in France remembering the future.

Paris Metro,high speed rail.Also some miles via Auto to the Atlantic coast.
Outside of Paris did not see one traffic light-all roudabout.

[FayeforCure]

Better to start off with enlightened people to begin with.

Is that you and garden guy?  Or the ones who cannot be bothered to vote?

Hey Bridge, you know I am in full agreement with you on "the ones that cannot be bothered to vote," but the more direct cause of regressive policies is the fanaticism of the regressives to hold back progress. And they do so in droves, showing up to vote for their fanatically regressive policies.

Dems are giver-uppers when it comes to fighting for their progressive policies.

Every person who went out to vote for a regressive who now is stopping HSR in America is to blame. Hmmm here is looking at you all!!!

CA keeps showing us the enlightened way:

December 21, 2010
Calif. OKs New Funding to Extend High-Speed Rail Project's First Leg SouthwardBy COLIN SULLIVAN of Greenwire
California officials yesterday voted to match $616 million in federal funds for high-speed rail that became available recently when Ohio and Wisconsin backed out of the race to build what would be the first U.S. bullet-train project.

The vote brings the total money available for construction of a first leg in California to $5.5 billion, as part of a larger project that would one day link San Francisco and Los Angeles. This means the initial segment of track will now extend southward from Fresno to Bakersfield, connecting the two largest cities in the farm-rich Central Valley.

The agency with jurisdiction over the Golden State's nascent project -- the California High-Speed Rail Authority -- decided to match the new federal infusion with state dollars with authority granted it under a bond passed by California voters in 2008.

"Ohio's loss is our gain," said Tom Umberg, vice chairman of the authority's board of directors. "When other states shrunk from the challenge of high-speed rail, California's firm commitment to this project paid off."

California and Florida were big winners recently when the Obama administration redistributed more than $1 billion in high-speed rail grants abandoned by incoming governors in Wisconsin and Ohio (E&ENews PM, Dec. 9). The money went to 14 states in all, with California netting the most.

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/12/21/21greenwire-calif-oks-new-funding-to-extend-high-speed-rai-53674.html

Lets hope Florida follows suit, and boldly face down the wrath of Tea Partiers!!

Go HSR for Florida!!!!

Go 23,000 jobs for Florida!!!

We will soon find out if electing a Republican Governor in Florida is disasterous for Rail as it was in Wisconsin and Ohio!!

Next time, think twice before casting your vote for a REGRESSIVE!!!!