40 Largest U.S. Metropolitan areas in 2020
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According to estimates recently released, Jacksonville should become the 39th largest U.S. Metropolitan Area by 2020.
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well yeah it looks small when all the other areas have live 2 or 3 cities in them. why not just label our area as tallahassee-jacksonville-daytona? then we will be higher up.
Jacksonville-St. Augustine-Brunswick, Ga.?
How does that sound?
What city is in that photo?
Its not in the US, but it's a nice photo of a progressive city......Toronto.
Toronto
Quote from: copperfiend on September 27, 2007, 10:06:39 AM
Jacksonville-St. Augustine-Brunswick, Ga.?
How does that sound?
We gobbled our entire county. How about...
Jacksonville-South Jacksonville-Jacksonville Beach-Baldwin MSA?
7+ million people in Atlanta within just 13 years? Wow. That place will be even more unliveable then. Although, by 2020, the census will probably count the entire state of Georgia as the Atlanta MSA. ::)
As for Jacksonville, this is in line with previous predictions we have made on here. I think they might be a little low even.
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 27, 2007, 10:37:59 AM
7+ million people in Atlanta within just 13 years? Wow. That place will be even more unliveable then. Although, by 2020, the census will probably count the entire state of Georgia as the Atlanta MSA. ::)
No doubt. Its definately headed that way. What a disaster.
Will Fuddruckers or the courthouse be finished by then?
WOW! My money is on 20 West Adams being completed before both of them.
Quote from: thelakelander on September 27, 2007, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 27, 2007, 10:37:59 AM
7+ million people in Atlanta within just 13 years? Wow. That place will be even more unliveable then. Although, by 2020, the census will probably count the entire state of Georgia as the Atlanta MSA. ::)
No doubt. Its definately headed that way. What a disaster.
I was in Atlanta on Tuesday. It amazes me how much has changed in just the two years since I left there. So many new buildings, Atlantic Station, Lindberg Center, etc.....traffic was still a disaster though.
If you're in the ATL, take the metrorail if, possible. That way, traffic is not a concern.
If you go to the link, we were at 40 last year. So, by 2020, we really haven't made much movement. I think it's wrong though, Jacksonville will make a bigger push than that, IMO.
To move up a lot of slots, growth would have to be great while extremely stagnant in simliar sized metros. Truth is, while we are enjoying moderate growth, several other communities are as well so catching and passing a few of the larger regions may be difficult in such a short time frame.. Nevertheless, 50 years ago, estimates predicted that the Rust Belt would continue to bloom and the exact opposite ended up coming true.
Quote from: RiversideGator on September 27, 2007, 10:37:59 AM
7+ million people in Atlanta within just 13 years? Wow. That place will be even more unliveable then. Although, by 2020, the census will probably count the entire state of Georgia as the Atlanta MSA. ::)
As for Jacksonville, this is in line with previous predictions we have made on here. I think they might be a little low even.
i think thats bullsh*t
^^^Why do you think it's BS? Because someone have an opinion? I agree with RG when he said 1.6 might be a little low concerning Jax's metro pop. in 2020.
well that is bs we will always be in front of atlanta in population their not even past 500,000 but then they skyrocket into 7,000,000 ......but our pouplatonthats barly any groth for us ......
raheem, "Metropolitan" Atlanta already has more than 5 million residents. The "city" of Atlanta is smaller than Jax because we merged with our core county and they didn't. Nevertheless, to a good idea of a city's size, its better to look at "metropolitan" (this includes unincorporated areas and suburbs) as opposed to "city limits" (municipal boundaries for taxing purposes).
Quote from: thelakelander on October 24, 2007, 10:44:12 PM
raheem, "Metropolitan" Atlanta already has more than 5 million residents. The "city" of Atlanta is smaller than Jax because we merged with our core county and they didn't. Nevertheless, to a good idea of a city's size, its better to look at "metropolitan" (this includes unincorporated areas and suburbs) as opposed to "city limits" (municipal boundaries for taxing purposes).
metro atlanta.....the hole state id only bout 7 millions.......you here about the drought i bet thats slowing growth......thoses census guy cant predict that and what happens of they have a forrest fire in thoses condition i bet that number will drop i thnk its bs and atlanta metro is super overrated
They may be overstated and for Atlanta's sake I hope so. I was just up there this past weekend and the amount of building going on there is on a different level then what we are experiencing locally.
The Atlanta area is on par with Miami, just a bit more spread out.
Raheem, you should check out UrbanPlanet.com They have a forum specific to Atlanta listing all of their construction projects. Its staggering.
Quote from: Jason on October 25, 2007, 08:29:28 AM
The Atlanta area is on par with Miami, just a bit more spread out.
Raheem, you should check out UrbanPlanet.com They have a forum specific to Atlanta listing all of their construction projects. Its staggering.
it will slow down
Speaking of the drought. The stupid mayor of Macon is trying to sell the city's water to Atlanta. Despite Atlanta donating water to Macon when the town flooded in 1994 and the city had no tap water for 2 weeks.
Atlanta Won't Buy Water From Macon, For Now
Submitted by Candace Thompson on Fri, 10/26/2007 - 10:42am. News State
Atlanta officials say they have no immediate plans to take up Macon on its offer to sell water to Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport.
Atlanta spokeswoman Beverly Isom says Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin had told Macon Mayor C. Jack Ellis thanks but no thanks.
Ellis had suggested Macon could truck in water with the help of volunteer drivers, if needed. He identified Atlanta's airport as a possible recipient because of its proximity to Macon and its role as an economic engine for Georgia.
Isom says buying water from Macon could be considered as an option at some point. But she says "we don't think we are there."
http://www.wmgt.com/node/4943 (http://www.wmgt.com/node/4943)
Quote from: raheem942 on October 26, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Jason on October 25, 2007, 08:29:28 AM
The Atlanta area is on par with Miami, just a bit more spread out.
Raheem, you should check out UrbanPlanet.com They have a forum specific to Atlanta listing all of their construction projects. Its staggering.
it will slow down
Why do you think it will slow down?
Quote from: Jason on October 26, 2007, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: raheem942 on October 26, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Jason on October 25, 2007, 08:29:28 AM
The Atlanta area is on par with Miami, just a bit more spread out.
Raheem, you should check out UrbanPlanet.com They have a forum specific to Atlanta listing all of their construction projects. Its staggering.
it will slow down
Why do you think it will slow down?
look at our market we have you seen the work going on around here like around south point.......... theirs......i just dont like to let purposed projects wow me ,untill workers are own site so people have big ideas but till they move some dirt its just talk thats for here and atlanta....expect the market to slow down cuz it always does and million dollar projects to fall through......and thier local ecomie has been peaking for years meaning thier due to slow down any year now and soon....less than 10 years........and beside the atlant metro area is like all of north ga..(thats unfair to count all thoses peole for atlanta cuz its all thier is left in my home state)......in that case lets throw in op,jax.beaches,nassue ,st.jhons couty as ours...............................o and by the way st.jhons county is one of the fastes growing countys in the country....to give you an idea the new schools they been building were and still is over croweded......they cant even build schools fast enough now is atlanta that hot...the firts coast is the futer sneaking up in population charts bouht to pass san fran any day now......in 2006 over 50,000 new residents in a year at the rate of increase..............atlanta metro can kiss my first coast a** my market been on fire for the last five years and we just getting started...............when i moved her 5 years ago i seen acres and miles of trees on atlatic and beach that arent there now...............condos in downtown.....in the south side is looking more and more like a buissness meca ...... even mayo expanded ....this is the bold new city of the south and the rest of the country is underestamting us....................i see this city booming i can see it better than most...............now how bout we stop overating atlanta
I don't think their growth has anything to do with overrating the city or comparing it with what's going on here or underating our city . Places like Metro Atlanta, Charlotte, Austin, Orlando, etc. have been growing at a freaky pace for well over 20 years now. Btw, Metro Jax already includes places like OP, St. Augustine and the beaches.
Anyway, growth can also be bad thing. Its more important that we continue to grow in a manner that enhances our community's quality of life then growing rapidly for the sake of bragging rights.
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We could look like this someday...
The billboards and newspapers used to read, "Ask anyone from Atlanta the Way to the Port...JACKSONVILLE". While we have long since passed Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Birmingham, New Orleans, Memphis proper in Population, our MSA lags far behind most. True we are still booming and others are staggered under a real estate collapse. But when real estate collapses and your 5 Million person MSA slows a bit, it doesn't do much for the 1,200,000 here to play catch up. I would love to point at us and say "HEY WE'RE NUMBER ONE!" but then I lived in Number one and number 2 for awhile. New York AND Los Angeles! Ever drive for 2 hours on a freeway and your still downtown? Ever pass through Burbank and have your eyes cry like your cutting onion from the smog? Ever cross a street in a concrete jungle, and see the sign, welcome to City of Industry! Cross another, Welcome to Southgate! Another, Welcome to Compton!, Another Welcome to Paramount! Another, Welcome to Long Beach!... sorry buddy's, but when home looks like that, I have a place in mind at a cool 13,000 foot elevation in Colombia. It's just 10 miles from Medellin, A river roars around three sides at the bottom of the valley, and the whole place is only $75,000 USD... Endless, Coffee, Banana's, Oranges... I love Jacksonville, but when it comes to this? "SI HABLA ESPANOL!" Lake, there's room for a few more too! Come on down!
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...and when we do? Guess what my place will look like?
Ocklawaha
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2007, 10:57:03 AM
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We could look like this someday...
The billboards and newspapers used to read, "Ask anyone from Atlanta the Way to the Port...JACKSONVILLE". While we have long since passed Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Birmingham, New Orleans, Memphis proper in Population, our MSA lags far behind most. True we are still booming and others are staggered under a real estate collapse. But when real estate collapses and your 5 Million person MSA slows a bit, it doesn't do much for the 1,200,000 here to play catch up. I would love to point at us and say "HEY WE'RE NUMBER ONE!" but then I lived in Number one and number 2 for awhile. New York AND Los Angeles! Ever drive for 2 hours on a freeway and your still downtown? Ever pass through Burbank and have your eyes cry like your cutting onion from the smog? Ever cross a street in a concrete jungle, and see the sign, welcome to City of Industry! Cross another, Welcome to Southgate! Another, Welcome to Compton!, Another Welcome to Paramount! Another, Welcome to Long Beach!... sorry buddy's, but when home looks like that, I have a place in mind at a cool 13,000 foot elevation in Colombia. It's just 10 miles from Medellin, A river roars around three sides at the bottom of the valley, and the whole place is only $75,000 USD... Endless, Coffee, Banana's, Oranges... I love Jacksonville, but when it comes to this? "SI HABLA ESPANOL!" Lake, there's room for a few more too! Come on down!
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...and when we do? Guess what my place will look like?
Ocklawaha
nice come back
Anything could and probably will happen my friends, not that I'm looking at doomsday predictions, or Commies under my bed...Just my education as a historian sez, we are WAY, WAY overdue for a huge...probably WORLD WAR! I doubt things will look the same after that. Hell, Jacksonville, if we survive, might be the only City left. Certainly those restaurants and that little bookstore will be open by then??? We can read books about the combat and drink coffee imported from Alaska! I'll predict 2010-12 as the "next big one...." Wanna place any bets? If your right I'll buy dinner! If I'm right, I get your car keys! LOL!
Ocklawaha
Raheem,
The Atlanta Metro is growing faster when counting actual residents versus percentages. Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Charlotte are as well. I'm not overrating Atlanta or underrating Jacksonville at all. The numbers speak for themselves. This area is close to seeing a tipping point where a tru boom is emminent. With the shipping hubs lining up, a steady population growth, and a relatively low cost of living (compared to most of the state), its only a matter of time. But to say that this area is growing faster than Atlanta or Miami is a stretch. Atlanta's urban project lists and investments alone outmatch the entire city of Jacksonville, and Miami beats us both. Most city's have seen they're growth explosions around 1.5 million and the Jax area is just now hitting those numbers but is also setting setting up for something much greater than Miami and Atlanta could ever imagine. The geography of this region is perfect for explosive and smart growth assuming we have the leaders to make it happen.
Quote from: Jason on October 29, 2007, 10:32:59 AM
Raheem,
The Atlanta Metro is growing faster when counting actual residents versus percentages. Miami, Tampa, Orlando, and Charlotte are as well. I'm not overrating Atlanta or underrating Jacksonville at all. The numbers speak for themselves. This area is close to seeing a tipping point where a tru boom is emminent. With the shipping hubs lining up, a steady population growth, and a relatively low cost of living (compared to most of the state), its only a matter of time. But to say that this area is growing faster than Atlanta or Miami is a stretch. Atlanta's urban project lists and investments alone outmatch the entire city of Jacksonville, and Miami beats us both. Most city's have seen they're growth explosions around 1.5 million and the Jax area is just now hitting those numbers but is also setting setting up for something much greater than Miami and Atlanta could ever imagine. The geography of this region is perfect for explosive and smart growth assuming we have the leaders to make it happen.
ok well we can leave it at that even though i think the explosive growth is over rated in atlanta
besides they dont even have enough water for that amount of peolpe and winter is comming o yea i can already see head lines 2015 7,ooo,ooo people thristy .o yea im perdictinga drought a bigger one to thanks to Global warming and look at the stats i can happen quick and just like that
I have no idea what you just said... ???