Is this the same JTA we all know?
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/downtowntoday.php?dt_date=2010-09-22
As usual, James appears to be the only one at JTA with his head screwed on straight. This young man reminds me of myself, a Don Quixote with a vision bigger then standard Jaxson humbug. The major difference being that I was tossed out the door before we could influence anyone... and all of that for the Skyway! James Boyle on the other hand has gotten himself in a position to make this 30 year overdue project happen, and hopefully HE won't run into threats on his life and family. While some 60-70 cities embrace the notion of streetcar today, just remember, WE COULD HAVE BEEN FIRST! While the article said it will be a "long time" I beg to disagree, IF the MPO transportation plan passes city coucil, we may hear the gong of a streetcar in Riverside within 5 years.
Prediction? Yes, watch Riverside and Brooklyn skyrocket to the top of the list for new urban development that will compliment the era of Jacksonville Traction 1912-1936. James, I'm ready to hit the lightning arrestor and pull back the controller on that first car.
OCKLAWAHA
Relax, its only a study to pacify the Streetcar crowd, much like the 'Rail Study' that stopped BRT in it's tracks(pun intended).
way to go Mr. Boyle!
What's missing from this is any support from JEDC (ECONOMIC EVELOPMENT.....HELLO!!!!) and DVI they are mum on the subject.
Quote“We have looked at the national situation and what other cities are doing,†said JTA Regional Transportation Planner James Boyle.
I just simultaneously dropped my glass, spit my drink, and screamed in terror.
So they just now are looking. Well I'll believe it when I see it until then,,,yawn,,,,,,
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on September 22, 2010, 04:11:08 PM
So they just now are looking. Well I'll believe it when I see it until then,,,yawn,,,,,,
Last I heard from them was something about "Bus is cheaper than Rail" ......that and a whole lot of studies and consultants getting involved!
QuoteAnother reason the possibility of streetcar lines through Downtown has been revived is the cost factor. Boyle said streetcars are less expensive to operate than trolleys and buses, have a longer service life and carry more passengers, as many as 200, in a single trip.
Wonder if they should have added also cheaper than the Skyway? I guess they hate to taint themselves with even mentioning it as being their responsibility and brainy idea ;)
If there is enough smoke, there may be a fire. We can only hope streetcars are coming sooner than later. I would run from Riverside Avenue down Bay Street to the stadium. Imagine the buzz of activity that would create along its lines. All for likely less than the price of one or two interchange ramps! Compare the economic benefits of those two options.
stjr.......you don't have to convince big fella! Been an advocate of rail, in the City, all most as long as I have posted here! Did not take too long for the light to go on in my head...........now if we can just convince the powers that be, we would be smoking! Not to mention a source of envy from those that don't have!
STJR is right y'all, streetcar will be about $5-10 million a mile cheaper to build then the Skyway extensions will be, and while the Skyway might glide over traffic chances are the streetcar will operate in it - except where we can close lanes. The big difference here is we can count 2 major developments who's locations are a result of the Skyway's location, while Tampa can count nearly $4 Billion, Memphis and Little Rock $3 Billion, and Portland's $5 Billion in direct streetcar CAUSED development. They both have their strengths and if our streetcars get the per mile ridership of our Skyway, they ought to chock up 6,000 riders daily. Really though, if your counting dollars of new development nothing beats the Streetcar as a system.
OCKLAWAHA
Quote from: Ocklawaha on September 22, 2010, 07:34:18 PM
STJR is right y'all
Knock me over with a feather, Ock! :o This in the same sentence as the "Skyway".
Mighty kind of ya'. ;)