So sad that the National Media is so biased against our city that the voice of reason comes from an Englishman writing for Reuters...
http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2010/09/14/jaguars-have-some-roar-left-in-them-yet/
Love these quotes from the article:
"There is something different about a tailgate in a small lot next to a classically Southern wooden house with the smell of B-B-Q dominating the area and local folk, not some faceless corporation, offering up their square meters for parking."
"There is nothing glamorous about Jacksonville or their Jaguars team but since when was American football supposed to be about glamour?
Isn’t this the game of the hard-working American driving a pick-up truck to a tailgate, drinking a few beers, grilling a few burgers and then roaring on his team? "
Good read
It was outright astonishing to read an article on the Jaguars and their role/future in Jacksonville that contained statements of fact, research, and an actual visit to the city.
too bad it's not for a us based news agency. i'm sure no one will read this outside of jacksonville and the uk. i believe jerome bettis wrote something about how bad jacksonville was fan wise and that the stadium was only full because of tim tebow. he also suggested that the team find a new place to move. I wonder if anyone thinks the chargers should move too because their game is blacked out? how about tampa? the raiders? anyone writing about them????? nope
From all-knowing Jerome Bettis' SI article.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jerome_bettis/09/14/Week1/index.html
QuoteA few more quick thoughts ...
• It wasn't surprising at all to see the Jaguars fill their stadium for the first time since 2007 because of an opposing player. Tim Tebow is a legend in that part of the country. As for the Jags, Jacksonville has really run its course as an NFL town. That's clearly a team that should think about relocation.
What an idiot. (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/oracle.gif) (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
now i hope he doesn't get into the hall of fame. what a dumb arse. i still don't understand why there are no articles of other cities and their blackouts. it still seems that everyone still talks about the jags like they blackouted the first game
Maybe Bettis is still upset about having an asthma attack at Alltel Stadium
He should have been called "the shortbus"
Quote from: copperfiend on September 15, 2010, 12:52:51 PM
Maybe Bettis is still upset about having an asthma attack at Alltel Stadium
you could be right, the air is too stuffy in jacksonville. we need to move the jags to l.a. instead. what an arse hole
Shortbus's only SB ring was due to awful officiating. There should be an asterisk; Pittsburgh Steelers won SB XL * The referees screwed Seattle. That a hole has an ax to grind.
Some attendance figures from this past weekend...
Rank Home Visitor Att.
1. Redskins Cowboys 90,670
2. Jets Ravens 78,127
3. Giants Panthers 77,245
4. Chiefs Chargers 71,297
5. Texans Colts 70,974
6. Saints Vikings 70,051
7. Bills Dolphins 69,295
8. Eagles Packers 69,144
9. Titans Raiders 69,143
10. Patriots Bengals 68,756
11. Rams Cardinals 67,044
12. Seahawks 49ers 67,044
13. Jaguars Broncos 63,636
14. Steelers Falcons 63,609
15. Bears Lions 62,080
16. Buccaneers Browns 47,211
(Source: ESPN.com)
QuoteMichael from Jacksonville
“The Jacksonville crowd was announced as 63,636, or 95 percent of stadium capacity. Even in the first half, before the weather turned bad, about a third of the stadium was obviously empty. At least Tampa was honest, announcing the gate as 47,211 at Raymond James, or 72 percent of capacity.†This is a direct quote from Greg Easterbrook’s “Tuesday Morning Quarterback†column.
Vic: OK, let’s set the record straight. The Jaguars did not announce the attendance to be 63,636. They announced that figure to be the tickets distributed for the game. I assume 47,211 is the number of tickets distributed for the game in Tampa, since I was told a year ago that the Steelers are the only team in the league that announces actual attendance, instead of tickets distributed. So, accusing the Jaguars of dishonesty is unfair. Secondly, I disagree with the estimate that a third of the stadium was empty before halftime. It wasn’t, in my opinion, that much. I did note, however, that a significant portion of the crowd did not return to their seats in the second half. The reason for those people leaving, unless they all decided to cool off by pushing their sweaty bodies against each other in the “Bud Zone,†was the heat. If you wanted to take a swipe at Jacksonville, last year’s home opener was the time to do it. I don’t think Jacksonville deserved to be spanked for its performance this past Sunday.
You didn't read 'Ask Vic' this morning did you.
Tickets distrusted vs. actual attendance = doesn't matter. Selling the seats is what matters.
It actually does matter. No one in the seat= no one to buy food, merch, etc.
Tell that to Miami and Houston both of which sell more empty seats to corporations than actual fans.
Quote from: Intuition Ale Works on September 15, 2010, 10:03:00 AM
So sad that the National Media is so biased against our city that the voice of reason comes from an Englishman writing for Reuters...
http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2010/09/14/jaguars-have-some-roar-left-in-them-yet/
Love these quotes from the article:
"There is something different about a tailgate in a small lot next to a classically Southern wooden house with the smell of B-B-Q dominating the area and local folk, not some faceless corporation, offering up their square meters for parking."
"There is nothing glamorous about Jacksonville or their Jaguars team but since when was American football supposed to be about glamour?
Isn’t this the game of the hard-working American driving a pick-up truck to a tailgate, drinking a few beers, grilling a few burgers and then roaring on his team? "
Yes its about glamour & flash...its not the 1970s anymore...The tailgate element has not changed. I mean The NFL is about winning first, but glamour & flash is NOW apart of the game. Sux Jax got in while the seasons were turning. I mean the Cowboys play in a space ship, so does the Cardinals...I wont even start on Cybertron at The Meadowlands. I would not be proud of this article.
Quote from: hanjin1 on September 15, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
too bad it's not for a us based news agency. i'm sure no one will read this outside of jacksonville and the uk. i believe jerome bettis wrote something about how bad jacksonville was fan wise and that the stadium was only full because of tim tebow. he also suggested that the team find a new place to move. I wonder if anyone thinks the chargers should move too because their game is blacked out? how about tampa? the raiders? anyone writing about them????? nope
Its a united front against the city...media was against Jacksonville from the Start...people from Jacksonville are against Jacksonville also. Many people in Jax dont want it to grow. I read some comments on TU the other day where people were saying Jacksonville had crime because of the Superbowl & Katrina...People in Jax didnt want the Superbowl. Its easy to beat on Jacksonville because the city is not as united...I mean Tebow Jerseys at the Jags game??? Sometimes I understand why Jax gets so much heat. They proved it this weekend.
Quote from: Coolyfett on September 15, 2010, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: hanjin1 on September 15, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
too bad it's not for a us based news agency. i'm sure no one will read this outside of jacksonville and the uk. i believe jerome bettis wrote something about how bad jacksonville was fan wise and that the stadium was only full because of tim tebow. he also suggested that the team find a new place to move. I wonder if anyone thinks the chargers should move too because their game is blacked out? how about tampa? the raiders? anyone writing about them????? nope
Its a united front against the city...media was against Jacksonville from the Start...people from Jacksonville are against Jacksonville also. Many people in Jax dont want it to grow. I read some comments on TU the other day where people were saying Jacksonville had crime because of the Superbowl & Katrina...People in Jax didnt want the Superbowl. Its easy to beat on Jacksonville because the city is not as united...I mean Tebow Jerseys at the Jags game??? Sometimes I understand why Jax gets so much heat. They proved it this weekend.
Cooleyfett,
What did we prove this weekend?
The number of Tebow fans were in the hundreds and we packed a stadium on an incredibly hot game.
I've seen more Tom Brady and 100x more Steeler jersey's at a game. The Tebow effect was proven to be a non-story and thank god we can move on.
I agree that sometimes Jacksonville is its own worse enemy, but Sunday was a positive.
Ben D.
^ +1
Quote from: Intuition Ale Works on September 15, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on September 15, 2010, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: hanjin1 on September 15, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
too bad it's not for a us based news agency. i'm sure no one will read this outside of jacksonville and the uk. i believe jerome bettis wrote something about how bad jacksonville was fan wise and that the stadium was only full because of tim tebow. he also suggested that the team find a new place to move. I wonder if anyone thinks the chargers should move too because their game is blacked out? how about tampa? the raiders? anyone writing about them????? nope
Its a united front against the city...media was against Jacksonville from the Start...people from Jacksonville are against Jacksonville also. Many people in Jax dont want it to grow. I read some comments on TU the other day where people were saying Jacksonville had crime because of the Superbowl & Katrina...People in Jax didnt want the Superbowl. Its easy to beat on Jacksonville because the city is not as united...I mean Tebow Jerseys at the Jags game??? Sometimes I understand why Jax gets so much heat. They proved it this weekend.
Cooleyfett,
What did we prove this weekend?
The number of Tebow fans were in the hundreds and we packed a stadium on an incredibly hot game.
I've seen more Tom Brady and 100x more Steeler jersey's at a game. The Tebow effect was proven to be a non-story and thank god we can move on.
I agree that sometimes Jacksonville is its own worse enemy, but Sunday was a positive.
Ben D.
They proved the inability to multi task. Jags were not the only Jacksonville TEAM playing that day. Jax doesnt get a pat on the back for supporting a regular season opener. THEY ARE SUPPOSE to do that. There are things that a CITY is SUPPOSE to do that Jax doesnt.....and it kinda sux. Jax is getting ripped by the media for many reasons. One they dont want a team in Jax, two Jax people DONT do what they are supposed to do with their teams. Forget Tampa, Oakland, Buffalo & St Louis...stop comparing Jax to the shrimps of the league...Compare them to the big dogs! Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, Bears....because Jags play those guys too. Jax can at least be known for its fan base....but its not the fanbase aint active in the sports world. go to any sports forums or blogs the Jaguar fans are never present, they are never present on sports talk...they are absent. I wore my Jags cap to work....and dudes were asking me what the logo was?! For crying out loud man. A freaking Cat with a teal tongue and their like "what team is that? Oh the Jaguars...Ive never really seen their logo"...and we are 5 hours away from Jax. At first I was annoyed but then I thought...these guys watch sports center like every other american man. Jags get no love from Sport Center. I think Jags fans as unit should unite with a collective middle finger to these ESPN, SI, sports talk people. They have a major effect on what sports fans think in general. So What jags fans did Sunday was NOTHING! They are suppose to pack out their arenas, ballparks & stadium....its the CITY thing to do.
I think we spend to much time worrying about what others say. Jags need to win more and fans need to support the team more. End of story.
Your wrong Keith every time one of those articles portrays us as Podunkville potential visitors, investors and every other business prospect could be negatively influenced. The media calling us out for not attending last year or putting us in the list of possibilities for L.A. is their job. So much disingenuous info has been put out that does bother me.
Sticks and stones yada yada................I live here, national media doesn't! If they used a simple fact checker, they would be shooting themselves in the foot! At that rate, their feet must look like swiss cheese!
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on September 16, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
I think we spend to much time worrying about what others say. Jags need to win more and fans need to support the team more. End of story.
This is what I planned to say until I read Keith's post. 100% agree.
If (when) we get through this rough patch and the Jags' future in Jax is secure, the story will be equally positive. It all balances out.
If investors and businesses are putting alot of stock into what the media says I am shock they are still in business. MetroJacksonville has shown alot more goes into getting companies, businesses, and corps, etc to move ,expand to new locations. If Jax has what a company is looking for their going to move here because is whats best for the company not what some envious journalist has to say.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on September 16, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
I think we spend to much time worrying about what others say. Jags need to win more and fans need to support the team more. End of story.
The crap others say effects stuff....the follow the leader & monkey see monkey do syndrome is hard to beat & does have an impact.
Quote from: JeffreyS on September 16, 2010, 10:02:08 AM
Your wrong Keith every time one of those articles portrays us as Podunkville potential visitors, investors and every other business prospect could be negatively influenced. The media calling us out for not attending last year or putting us in the list of possibilities for L.A. is their job. So much disingenuous info has been put out that does bother me.
+1....glad you are not in denial. The media has its foot on the neck of Jacksonvilles NFL reputation. Fans packing the stadium CONSISTENTLY will shut them up, but The Jax sport fan does not know how to do that & dont even understand what they are actually paying for when buying a ticket.