In October 1984, Jacksonville Department of Housing and Urban Development contacted the American Institute of Architects to do a study on Springfield. The resulting study, called R/UDAT, came out in September of 1985 and was the basis of foundation of Historic Springfield Community Council and their work to make Springfield a National Historic District.
What is particularly interesting to me are the stats on the housing stock in Springfield.
At that time, there were 1800 houses in Springfield.
There is also a map of vacant lots and abandoned houses in there which I can't, right now, duplicate on here. I can summarize and hopefully find a way to scan the info in, later.
For now.
The named streets:
Clark: 6 empty lots and no abandoned properties
Ionia: 8 empty lots and no abandoned properties
Walnut: 7 empty lots and 7 abandoned properties
Liberty: 11 empty lots and 2 abandoned properties
Market: 22 empty lots and 11 abandoned properties
Hubbard: 6 vacant lots and 4 abandoned properties
Main: 1 vacant lot and 1 abandoned property
Laura: 13 vacant lots and 9 abandoned properties
Silver: 5 vacant lots and 5 abandoned properties
Pearl: 9 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
Perry: 6 vacant lots and 2 abandoned properties
Boulevard: 4 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
Carmen: 6 vacant lots and no abandoned properties
The numbered streets
1st West: 1 vacant lot
1st East: 3 vacant lots
2nd West: zero vacant lots
2nd East: 1 vacant lot
3rd West: zero vacant lots
3rd East: 2 vacant lots
4th West: 2 vacant lots
4th East: 5 vacant lots and 2 abandoned properties
5th West: 3 vacant lots and 2 abandoned properties
5th East: 1 vacant lot
6th West: zero vacant lots
6th East: 5 vacant lots and 3 abandoned properties
7th West: 4 vacant lots
7th East: 5 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
8th West: 1 vacant lot and 1 abandoned property
8th East: 5 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
9th West: 1 vacant lot and 1 abandoned property
9th East: 7 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
10th West: 3 vacant lots and 1 abandoned property
10th East: 1 vacant lot
11th West: 3 vacant lots and 2 abandoned properties
11th East: 6 vacant lots
12th West: 13 vacant lots
12th East: zero vacant lots
Looks like 16 houses have been lost on Ionia alone since it has been a historic district.
East third street had 54 homes in 1985 and has 32 homes in 2010.
(disclaimer here: I'm counting all of these with a magnifying glass).
12 Street West is where the school now sits. I know they moved some of these houses to other locations like the one on the corner of Hubbard and 9th.
Looking at the study, I can count 136 lots on Walnut in 1985 in comparison to 131 lots that I count from the property appraisers data base on Walnut currently. I could easily be off some lots as it is tough to tell if a lot is on Walnut or a numbered street; however, it is reasonably close.
Today, there stands roughly 92 original structures on Walnut and roughly 39 empty lots.
In 1985 the study claims 7 empty lots.
Quote from: sheclown on September 07, 2010, 12:16:52 AM
Looking at the study, I can count 136 lots on Walnut in 1985 in comparison to 131 lots that I count from the property appraisers data base on Walnut currently. I could easily be off some lots as it is tough to tell if a lot is on Walnut or a numbered street; however, it is reasonably close.
Today, there stands roughly 92 original structures on Walnut and roughly 39 empty lots.
In 1985 the study claims 7 empty lots.
You really should do something about that DP hun.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/vacantlotsandabandonedstructures001.jpg)
Vacant Lots are hatched
Abandoned dwellings are checked.
Quote from: flo on September 07, 2010, 10:46:51 AM
Quote from: sheclown on September 07, 2010, 12:16:52 AM
Looking at the study, I can count 136 lots on Walnut in 1985 in comparison to 131 lots that I count from the property appraisers data base on Walnut currently. I could easily be off some lots as it is tough to tell if a lot is on Walnut or a numbered street; however, it is reasonably close.
Today, there stands roughly 92 original structures on Walnut and roughly 39 empty lots.
In 1985 the study claims 7 empty lots.
You really should do something about that DP hun.
better now?
Don't know if it matters but you have W. 3rd St. marked as 1st. St.
Quote from: sheclown on September 07, 2010, 11:53:03 AM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/vacantlotsandabandonedstructures001.jpg)
Vacant Lots are hatched
Abandoned dwellings are checked.
Quote from: Springfield Girl on September 08, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
Don't know if it matters but you have W. 3rd St. marked as 1st. St.
Look again, Springfield Girl...the map is marked properly....
And then compare it with this one:
http://www.coj.net/NR/rdonlyres/engtubos7fefqazueahk77ytxj7kkpt7ft4zn53aodhifp5ts2jrww66vpm3fhdxiu4sul3mh4pg5vzhbugexyntxxf/springfield_district_map.pdf (http://www.coj.net/NR/rdonlyres/engtubos7fefqazueahk77ytxj7kkpt7ft4zn53aodhifp5ts2jrww66vpm3fhdxiu4sul3mh4pg5vzhbugexyntxxf/springfield_district_map.pdf)
More differences than one would think ...
Quote from: Springfield Girl on September 08, 2010, 09:17:12 AM
Don't know if it matters but you have W. 3rd St. marked as 1st. St.
You can zoom out on the map if it would help. It is marked correctly. First is first.
It looks like, in 1985, there were 12 houses (including commercial) on the stretch of East 6th between Liberty and Walnut.
Next time you head to 3 layers, count how many historic structures are there now.
I'm getting old............I might forget but will try and count them out, at least to Three Layers!
i remember seeïng several ov them go...and i'd always hoped something could be done with the building that used to be on the corner ov 6th & walnut (mind you, i should've known better--for pretty much my whole life it was roofless).
According to the "Springfield Action Plan" dated May 1997, 60 building had been demolished or lost to fire as of May 1997 since the 1985 study was complete. (page 40).
60 buildings were lost in that 12 year period. Any idea how many have been lost since 1997? I believe over 20 were lost in the last two years, alone.
It also states as a suggestion
QuoteEstablish a streamlined procedure to forgive the amount of code enforcement liens which exceed the value of the property. Now the amount of these liens make the repair and/or rebuilding all vacant lots almost impossible.
(page 42)
Quote from: sheclownIt looks like, in 1985, there were 12 houses (including commercial) on the stretch of East 6th between Liberty and Walnut.
Next time you head to 3 layers, count how many historic structures are there now.
There's 5 houses on the one side and 4 on the same side as the coffee house (not sure if the one at 6th & Liberty is listed as 6th or Liberty...the lot is where 3-4 burned and what was left of them were taken down.
Adding link to photos of fire: http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/index.html (http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/index.html)
(http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/images/2N%20ALARM%20WALNUT%20003.jpg)(http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/images/2N%20ALARM%20WALNUT%20031.jpg)(http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/images/2N%20ALARM%20WALNUT%20004.jpg)(http://www.jfrd.com/images/2nd%20Alarm%206th%20and%20Walnut%20061104/images/2N%20ALARM%20WALNUT%20005.jpg)
Bumping this thread See what we've lost.
Does anyone have a map of historically significant properties that existed in Springfield in 1985? I'd like to create an updated 2013 version.
Quote from: sheclown on September 07, 2010, 11:53:03 AM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/vacantlotsandabandonedstructures001.jpg)
Vacant Lots are hatched
Abandoned dwellings are checked.
This is all I have seen
I'm having trouble understanding the comment on the photo. Vacant hatched, abandoned checked? And how can I get a downloadable copy of this?
Don't know about downloadable.
The checks are vacant lots and the hatched boxes are abandoned houses
For me it is easier to view on my phone b/c I can expand it
I'd like to see a map showing non-contributing vs contributing buildings from era when Springfield first became a historic district. There should be a print version in the city's Historic Preservation Office. I'll add it to my list of things to do before July 4th.
I don't have the info for all of Springfield, but here is Ionia Street as of 2012.
QuoteIonia Street ... 1985 ... 2012
Number of residential lots inside the historic district ... 80 ... 80
Number of abandoned houses ... 0 ... Est. 6
Number of vacant lots ... 8 ... 34
Percentage of houses lost prior to 1985: 10%
Percentage of houses lost since 1985: 37%
Percentage lost overall: 43% of the original housing stock is gone.
If we assume that Ionia was 100% built out by 1920, it lost 10% of it's houses in the first 65 years, including about ten years of the worst history of Springfield for having crime, drugs and flop houses of all sorts and then it took only the next 27 years, about 10 of which were the most prosperous in Springfield in many decades, to lose an additional 34% of it's housing stock.That is 26 historic houses gone in 27 years or about 1 a year for the one single street! We lost fewer houses prior to being a protected historic district than we have with those protections in place. While some were of course due to things like fire, how many were due to social reasons rather than the house itself? How many have we lost unnecessarily due to "demolition by reckless policy?"
Guess its a good thing that we have a Historic Preservation Office within our city! Bravo boys! Bravo!
Quote from: thelakelander on June 22, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
I'd like to see a map showing non-contributing vs contributing buildings from era when Springfield first became a historic district. There should be a print version in the city's Historic Preservation Office. I'll add it to my list of things to do before July 4th.
That would be great, but even it wouldn't tell the whole story. My house is listed with the city as 1941 (when it was converted to apartment use) but has a deed (and photo) record to 1905. Thus, there are several historic properties in SPR that would probably not have been included in the "contributing structure" list -- and I'm going to guess that their fate has probably been worse than those designated as contributing. My guess is commercial historic stock has fared especially poorly as well.
Sheclown: That map is missing an abandoned house on the 1100 block of Walnut. 1138 is REO owned, vacant, and has been found with doors wide-open several times. Magic fairies occasionally secure the property as they can fly and do not trespass *on* the bank's property.