Hey # 9, how is it going? You know the season starts in a few days and....well Im just wondering how you are going to perform this year. The last couple years you played like #7 thats not the way to play man. Look you got new uniforms, a new name on your office building, can we finally get some results like the year #12 & 81 almost ran the table til they lost to #18s lil brother. I know you got a big contract after that great season man, but since then we aint seen nothing. You have not really been the focus since stupid rumors of your company leaving town has been on everyones tongue. We didnt draft the kid from Neese, so there should be no crazy pressure to perform. Just play like you did the year they got rid of number 7.
Thanks ya boy from 103rd Street
Coolyfett
I hope he read this...lol. Nice post.
tired of Garrard stinking up the joint!
Gee Money: Yo David I need to talk to you man....
David G: What da bumbaclot im throwing picks for 60 million...
Gee Money: David, Nino Brown says your services are no longer needed in the community...
David G: What the bloodclot?
*Keisha jumps out the Jeep*
BAAAAAAANG!
Rocka by baby!
Am I my brothers keeper?
The good news is he is playing better than Favre... ;)
Well Favre lost and he had the chance to pull it out and David just plain made bad choices as shown by the final score! Defense was non-existant and ...............heck I could go on and on.............they need to pick it up or 7 and 9 here we come again!
Quote from: BridgeTroll on September 20, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
The good news is he is playing better than Favre... ;)
weird, because i would rather have favre than garrard. i don't care that favre has worse stats right now, at least i would feel good that our team would be in it til the end
Regardless of my feelings on David's Garrard's abilities as an NFL quarterback, he's got my full support for the season. My opinion on Jack Del Rio is even shakier, but I'll also give him the benefit of the doubt this season. I was quite vocal about replacing one or both during the offseason, but for now, this is the hand that we've been dealt, and I'd be floored to see WW making any major mid-season changes.
The choice is ours.
We can either:
A) Cry about how terrible our QB and head coach are, run our mouths about how hopeless the Jags are, and give the NFL and national media even more fodder towards moving the team to LA.
OR:
B) We can rally around DG, give him our full support, and do everything in our power to will him into taking that next step forward. Even if there are some stumbles along the way, we can still have fun supporting the Jags.
Despite yesterday's final score, there were a lot of small victories in that game for us. We played hard, even in loss. We made a couple of awesome picks as well, including that great foot drag in our own end zone. The blocked punt was incredible. Jones-Drew almost single-handedly saving what I believe was a 3rd and 25.
Overall, I actually really enjoyed watching this game.
It's early.
Don't give up yet.
There's a lot of football left to play.
And then, if the season doesn't turn out the way you'd like, raise as much hell as you want during the offseason.
You should change your name to KenFTW because you're spot on here.
A lot of whining and not just because we lost... but because it hurts to lose like that. I watched every play and even though I saw it coming it's still painful to watch.
Garrard lives up to his inconsistent reputation and had another implosion.... regardless of how bad he played he's still our best bet at quarterback.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him bounce back next week... I hope he does because I can't imagine what it's like to shoulder all the blame and criticism after a game like yesterdays.
Think of this team as volatile as a double dip recession... with all the years of personnel mismanagement it's undoubtedly going to get worse before it gets better.
In the meantime here's some positives from yesterdays game found by the guys at Big Cat Country:
QuoteYes, the Jacksonville Jaguars got stomped by the San Diego Chargers and a lot went wrong.
There were however, some bright spots in the game... some.
There were some individual performances in Sunday's drubbing that do warrant taking notice.
• Daryl Smith had another solid outing coming off his AFC Defensive Player of the Week honors. Smith ended the day with 7 tackles, 2 for loss, and a sack. Yeah, he gave up a touchdown pass to Antonio Gates, but no linebacker in the NFL could have prevented that touchdown.
• Safety Courtney Greene got his first start of his career and made the most of it. I said before the game he's a guy to watch and a guy the coaching staff is really high on, and he showed you why. Greene forced two turnovers, an interception and forced a fumble on a hit in which he brought the lumber. Greene ended the day leading the team in tackles, despite going down with an injury at one point. All indications are though, he'll be just fine.
• Wide receiver Mike Sims-Walker rebounded from a donut performance against the Denver Broncos to catch 10 passes on 12 targets for 109 yards and a late touchdown from David Garrard. Sims-Walker did have a fumble, but overall he had a nice rebound game.
• Tight end Marcedes Lewis continued off his two touchdown performance in Week 1 to catch 5 passes for 70 yards. He's getting more and more involved in the offense and he's proving to be a weapon.
• Rashad Jennings showed he's more than capable backing up Maurice Jones-Drew. Jennings ended the day with 9 carries for 38 yards (4.2 YPC) and 4 catches for 50 yards. We see now why the team was so excited about him all off-season.
• Aaron Kampman continues to look like he was more than worth the contract in free agency. He came close to getting another sack, but Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was able to get the ball out before he was "down", though it was debatable. The stats say Kampman only hit Rivers once, but I swear it was more than that. Kampman also made a nice play when he dropped into coverage forcing an incomplete pass to tight end Antonio Gates.
• I thought the offensive line as whole continued to play well. Guard Justin Smiley was beat on one of the sacks, but overall the line allowed only 4 quarterback hits on 42 pass attempts.
• Josh Scobee remains perfect on the season after nailed two 40+ yard field goals.
Gentlemen.........no matter what I post, you must keep in mind that I live here too! I want the Jag's to do well and as have posted before........winning bets the hell out of losing! They must do better than the 7&9 record of last year and a winning season quiets all who doubt, but they must win or all of us will be second guessing!
Quote from: CS Foltz on September 20, 2010, 04:41:44 PM
Gentlemen.........no matter what I post, you must keep in mind that I live here too! I want the Jag's to do well and as have posted before........winning bets the hell out of losing! They must do better than the 7&9 record of last year and a winning season quiets all who doubt, but they must win or all of us will be second guessing!
Again with the winning. You've beat this horse in every Jags thread so far and before it spreads to the next Jags related topic. Please! Please! Please! Answer these questions:
How does 1 team accumulate and retain ALL the top level talent in the NFL?
How does 1 team keep the other 31 teams from acquiring any competitive players?
There are only 10 teams each year that earn a spot in the playoffs and of those only a select few that can reach that level consistently year in & year out. Even the most consistent teams have had their share of losing seasons….And undoubtedly will find themselves at the bottom again. With that said part 2 of this questionnaire:
Are fans to abandon their team in these 100% certain to happen, time and time again unproductive losing seasons?
How does a team stay afloat during the bad years that are unavoidable?
Have you noticed there is more of a trend of franchises being successful (i.e. no blackout games, no relocation) because the team is supported unconditionally vs. supported only when winning?
Other than posting as 'Captain Obvious' because no one is disagreeing with you that a winning season would help sell some tickets... unfortunately you can't see the forest for the trees in this debate... because if you did you would realize it's just a patch! Supporting a team only because they're winning is not a long term solution... why isn't it a long term solution? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WIN ALL THE TIME. IT WOULDN'T BE CALLED A SPORT IF YOU COULD AND IT SURE AS HELL WOULDN'T BE FUN TO WATCH!
Well I am glad to be a season ticket holder. I was worried the Jags would get beat down based on what I saw against the Broncos. The Broncos pretty much moved the ball as they please so I am not surprised about the Bolts outcome. I taped the Jags away games for this very reason, I just can not sit through a beat down like that.
If WW is serious about keeping this team here this should be del rio last season, keep DG until the new QB has developed. For those who say you cant win every game--this is true, my question is why the inconsistency yr after yr under del rio? You just don't know what Jags team is taking the field. I think that's what has frustrated people the most.
David you PLAY to WIN the game!!!!
Sorry # 9 but its time we let you go.
They are going to have to keep DG for a while until the new QB has time to develope, but its time for Del Rio to go.
David there isn't any easy way to say this. I feel like it is only fair to be direct and honest. We are through. This is good bye I hope life is good to you but I can't be a part of it.
I dont know what to say, what did we just witness out there tonight.
I am not sure just what took place on MNF............30 to 3 is nothing to write home about.....not pretty and not good!
Does anyone know when the 2011 draft is? There is a certain position that the Jacksonville Jaguars of Jacksonville Florida are in need of.
Quote from: Coolyfett on December 27, 2010, 12:05:06 PM
Does anyone know when the 2011 draft is? There is a certain position that the Jacksonville Jaguars of Jacksonville Florida are in need of.
it doesn't matter when it is because he will be back next year. i hope they get the qb of the future, but i doubt they will start the rookie right away. be sure that you're ready to see more #9 throwing more picks to other teams when the game is on the line next year. thanks david, you made my prediction of the team going 8-8 a reality
Horton or Tebow I bet one of them is here next year.
Quote from: JeffreyS on December 27, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Horton or Tebow I bet one of them is here next year.
Oh c'mon... I thought we were beyond the Tebow rumors. If the Jags wanted him Gene would've drafted him when he had the chance. Denver made the investment and they'll hold on to him.
I am not lobbying just predicting.
Quote from: JeffreyS on December 27, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Horton or Tebow I bet one of them is here next year.
I assume you mean Kyle Orton...Tebow won't be here..and I doubt Orton will be either...remember the Jags already have a backup QB that has been an NFL starter (Trent Edwards).
a better prediction is that the Jags draft a QB in the first 3 rounds.....let them be an understudy for a year or two
Yes and that would be my guess.
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 27, 2010, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on December 27, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Horton or Tebow I bet one of them is here next year.
I assume you mean Kyle Orton...Tebow won't be here..and I doubt Orton will be either...remember the Jags already have a backup QB that has been an NFL starter (Trent Edwards).
a better prediction is that the Jags draft a QB in the first 3 rounds.....let them be an understudy for a year or two
+1 Although I think Edwards may be let go if McCown heals well and is ready by training camp next year. He looked pretty sharp in the preseason and Edwards... at the end of the day is just another Garrard... except not as mobile.
Dump McCown... keep Edwards... Draft a QB early in the draft... and announce that the starting job is open to all three. It is time for some competition at that position. Garrard is average at best and average will get you... 8-8.
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Quote from: Shwaz on December 27, 2010, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 27, 2010, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on December 27, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
Horton or Tebow I bet one of them is here next year.
I assume you mean Kyle Orton...Tebow won't be here..and I doubt Orton will be either...remember the Jags already have a backup QB that has been an NFL starter (Trent Edwards).
a better prediction is that the Jags draft a QB in the first 3 rounds.....let them be an understudy for a year or two
+1 Although I think Edwards may be let go if McCown heals well and is ready by training camp next year. He looked pretty sharp in the preseason and Edwards... at the end of the day is just another Garrard... except not as mobile.
I agree. McCown did excellent in the preseason. I was so pissed when he got hurt. And come on Jags fans, toughen up and stop whinning like babies when things dont go our way. When we were on a winning streak everyone one was quiet, now everybody hates Garrard again. bipolar are we? ::)
This team still needs a real QB, although defense is still the major concern. DG will get 8-8 at best. Wow DG basically gift wrap that win for the Skins although the entire team really played poorly from the kick off. I hope we can finish with a winning season, but its time to end the DG experiment. We may have to suffer one more two at best with DG, but its time to get a real QB if were serious about making a real run for the division and playoffs.
QuoteMcCown did excellent in the preseason. I was so pissed when he got hurt.
Disagree. McCown is "just a guy"... like Garrard... a backup. Edwards may not be much better but has had limited success as a starter. Regardless... none of those three is what the Jags need to move forward. My prediction is the Jags draft a QB in the first or second round and put Garrard on notice that his days are numbered.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 27, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
This team still needs a real QB, although defense is still the major concern. DG will get 8-8 at best. Wow DG basically gift wrap that win for the Skins although the entire team really played poorly from the kick off. I hope we can finish with a winning season, but its time to end the DG experiment. We may have to suffer one more two at best with DG, but its time to get a real QB if were serious about making a real run for the division and playoffs.
Garrard takes the majority of criticism because he's the quarterback... while he does make poor decisions... he was also under duress the entire game and for most of the season... and all of last season. With good blocking he's been almost masterful and with poor blocking he's made plays with his legs. He makes bad reads and sometimes holds the ball too long.... but it's short sighted to blame him for the loss, the team record and missing the post season.
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
My prediction is the Jags draft a QB in the first or second round and put Garrard on notice that his days are numbered.
I semi-disagree. And my regurgitation of info is the part of the reason that we had a completely suprising good year. We are two years into rebuilding and don't have a Brady / Manning to make up the difference. GMGene will keep building this franchise through the draft. He will only draft a QB in the first round or three if they are still the best players on his draft board. Don't be suprised to see us draft another big man in the first round again, whether it's O-Line or D-Line - you witness first hand how the right side of the line started collapsing after Britton went down, and we didn't have someone there to fix it. What happens if Knighton gets hurt?
From what I've seen, I have faith that next year will be better than this one as will many years to come, but don't get your heart set on a new QB, unless he sees the one that he wants - meaning on top of his draft board.
My prediction is we don't take a QB before the 4th round. My guess is he didn't pick Edwards to be the back-up as much as the replacement when training camp starts - there's going to be a battle between him and Garrard. McCown, not as much - he'll be released as the draft nears.
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
QuoteMcCown did excellent in the preseason. I was so pissed when he got hurt.
Disagree. McCown is "just a guy"... like Garrard... a backup. Edwards may not be much better but has had limited success as a starter. Regardless... none of those three is what the Jags need to move forward. My prediction is the Jags draft a QB in the first or second round and put Garrard on notice that his days are numbered.
I'm not sure you need to put a QB (north of 30) on notice that his days are numbered.
Drafting a QB early virtually requires that Garrards days would be numbered. Garrard would likely start for most the year... or be replaced earlier if he does not perform... or later if he does...
An example would be Tebow... 1st rounder rode the bench for most the season. Orton got hurt yet is having a pretty good season. Orton could be playing... but isnt.
Another would be Aaron Rodgers... 1st rounder sat on the bench two years before getting his shot.
I said the whole team played poorly. DG has thrown 2 int both when the recever was wide open. Colts game now this one. Even though the whole team played badly DG mistakes really did cost us this game. Its time to move on now, find a real QB not a game manager. If the Jags fall behind more than two TDs its lights out if DG is the QB. He may be the best we have right now, but his replacement needs to be on the way if he's the BAP when the Jags are up on the board to draft.
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on December 27, 2010, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
My prediction is the Jags draft a QB in the first or second round and put Garrard on notice that his days are numbered.
I semi-disagree. And my regurgitation of info is the part of the reason that we had a completely suprising good year. We are two years into rebuilding and don't have a Brady / Manning to make up the difference. GMGene will keep building this franchise through the draft. He will only draft a QB in the first round or three if they are still the best players on his draft board. Don't be suprised to see us draft another big man in the first round again, whether it's O-Line or D-Line - you witness first hand how the right side of the line started collapsing after Britton went down, and we didn't have someone there to fix it. What happens if Knighton gets hurt?
From what I've seen, I have faith that next year will be better than this one as will many years to come, but don't get your heart set on a new QB, unless he sees the one that he wants - meaning on top of his draft board.
My prediction is we don't take a QB before the 4th round. My guess is he didn't pick Edwards to be the back-up as much as the replacement when training camp starts - there's going to be a battle between him and Garrard. McCown, not as much - he'll be released as the draft nears.
if this happens don't expect sell outs next year. trent edwards as the starter?? good god, might as well pack in next year and look forward to 2012
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
Drafting a QB early virtually requires that Garrards days would be numbered. Garrard would likely start for most the year... or be replaced earlier if he does not perform... or later if he does...
What I mean is - I'm sure he knows that drafting a quarterback is imminent and that at 32 years old his "days are numbered".
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on December 27, 2010, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
My prediction is the Jags draft a QB in the first or second round and put Garrard on notice that his days are numbered.
I semi-disagree. And my regurgitation of info is the part of the reason that we had a completely suprising good year. We are two years into rebuilding and don't have a Brady / Manning to make up the difference. GMGene will keep building this franchise through the draft. He will only draft a QB in the first round or three if they are still the best players on his draft board. Don't be suprised to see us draft another big man in the first round again, whether it's O-Line or D-Line - you witness first hand how the right side of the line started collapsing after Britton went down, and we didn't have someone there to fix it. What happens if Knighton gets hurt?
From what I've seen, I have faith that next year will be better than this one as will many years to come, but don't get your heart set on a new QB, unless he sees the one that he wants - meaning on top of his draft board.
My prediction is we don't take a QB before the 4th round. My guess is he didn't pick Edwards to be the back-up as much as the replacement when training camp starts - there's going to be a battle between him and Garrard. McCown, not as much - he'll be released as the draft nears.
if this happens don't expect sell outs next year. trent edwards as the starter?? good god, might as well pack in next year and look forward to 2012
I'm stumped on the confindence in Edwards too. He was cut by the Bills after a terrible first few years. The only thing he's got on Garrard is age... and if he was better - he'd be starting already.
He was insurance as a backup when McCown went down... then he got himself injured after playing just over a quarter in the MNF game.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 27, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
This team still needs a real QB, although defense is still the major concern. DG will get 8-8 at best. Wow DG basically gift wrap that win for the Skins although the entire team really played poorly from the kick off. I hope we can finish with a winning season, but its time to end the DG experiment. We may have to suffer one more two at best with DG, but its time to get a real QB if were serious about making a real run for the division and playoffs.
I agree Keith but.....Where are we going to find a QB? To be honest, any quarter back we draft is going to be an experiment. And being that were a small market, we do have the funds to draft a Michael Vick type of QB. I guess we have to keep our fingers crossed and pray for an miracle. Garrad has done good this year in my opinion, however his turnovers have become a huge issue. HUGE. We have lost several games because of that. So Im at a lost on the situation. Well just see what happens.
i think the jags have to go qb in the first 2 rounds. i think the fans will demand this, if not it could be a very shaky year next year
Tom Brady was picked in the 7th round... :o :D
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 27, 2010, 03:47:04 PM
Tom Brady was picked in the 7th round... :o :D
brady was an anomaly, most of your top qb's were drafted in the first 2 rounds
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
i think the jags have to go qb in the first 2 rounds. i think the fans will demand this, if not it could be a very shaky year next year
I met with the Jags a couple weeks ago about an opportunity to join the Champions Club. During the presentation they spoke about how strong tickets sales have been... not for just this season but next season and the 2012 season. Most people are renewing through the 20-20 / 30-30 package and the team is way ahead of pace in terms of sales.
A quote in the Ask Vic column today sums it up - "As Bill Polian once said, if you listen to the fans, you’ll end up sitting with them."
Lets hope we get lucky. What round was P.Manning drafted any one know?
We should trade for a QB.. Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn (Hell we traded for Green Bay's back up before and it worked quite well).. This way there can be an open competition in camp with guys that have been in the league for a few years, and are still fairly young.
But who knows. One thing's for sure, this offseason will be quite interesting!
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 27, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
Lets hope we get lucky. What round was P.Manning drafted any one know?
I think we're out of luck on the #1 pick overall :D
Quote from: Shwaz on December 27, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
i think the jags have to go qb in the first 2 rounds. i think the fans will demand this, if not it could be a very shaky year next year
I met with the Jags a couple weeks ago about an opportunity to join the Champions Club. During the presentation they spoke about how strong tickets sales have been... not for just this season but next season and the 2012 season. Most people are renewing through the 20-20 / 30-30 package and the team is way ahead of pace in terms of sales.
A quote in the Ask Vic column today sums it up - "As Bill Polian once said, if you listen to the fans, you’ll end up sitting with them."
if this was a couple weeks ago then this was before out current 2 week meltdown. now i have no doubt that there will be people still buying the season tickets next year with the 30-30 plan and such, but i doubt we are anywhere close to selling out every game next year. i'm sure after these last 2 games that a lot of peoples minds have changed some. now if the jags win next week and the colts lose, then of course those minds could change again, but it's a big if for both of those 2 things to happen.
Wow oh well Manning living up to his draft potenial. The day he retires I'm having a party.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 27, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
Lets hope we get lucky. What round was P.Manning drafted any one know?
first round
Quote from: SMoody84 on December 27, 2010, 03:53:27 PM
We should trade for a QB.. Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn (Hell we traded for Green Bay's back up before and it worked quite well).. This way there can be an open competition in camp with guys that have been in the league for a few years, and are still fairly young.
But who knows. One thing's for sure, this offseason will be quite interesting!
i would love to have kolb, but it looks like philly wants a first and another pick just to pry him away. i doubt we would give up all that. though i did mention on the jaguars message board last year about trading for him or vick with our pick and they ran me out of the forum boards calling me all sorts of names
Never bet againts the colts unless their playing the Charges or the Pats. We need a strong finish in Houston!! and another good draft I think they've won alot of support this yr. Dont wanna leave a bad taste in people's mouth with a three game skid at the end.
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:49:47 PM
brady was an anomaly, most of your top qb's were drafted in the first 2 rounds
There's also been several busts in the first two rounds - Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russel, Brady Quinn, John Beck, Kellen Clemens and there have been a bunch of Garrard (average) types picked in the first 2 rounds - Chad Henne, Tavaris Jackson, Alex Smith, Jason Campbell - and BTW I'd take Garrard over everyone that I just mentioned.
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not where they're drafted, it's not what school they went to, it's how they play when they get to the NFL and that's up to the scouting dept. to determine, not Kiper and McShay. This is why I believe that the Jags are going to be fine with whomever they draft. Gene Smith came up through the scouting ranks and built that department, so they know what he is expecting and find it.
How are his picks looking so far?
Pretty good if u ask me!!!
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on December 27, 2010, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:49:47 PM
brady was an anomaly, most of your top qb's were drafted in the first 2 rounds
There's also been several busts in the first two rounds - Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russel, Brady Quinn, John Beck, Kellen Clemens and there have been a bunch of Garrard (average) types picked in the first 2 rounds - Chad Henne, Tavaris Jackson, Alex Smith, Jason Campbell - and BTW I'd take Garrard over everyone that I just mentioned.
The point I'm trying to make is that it's not where they're drafted, it's not what school they went to, it's how they play when they get to the NFL and that's up to the scouting dept. to determine, not Kiper and McShay. This is why I believe that the Jags are going to be fine with whomever they draft. Gene Smith came up through the scouting ranks and built that department, so they know what he is expecting and find it.
How are his picks looking so far?
i don't doubt that there have been busts at qb in the first 2 rounds, i'm just saying that out of all of the best qb's they almost always come from the first 2 rounds. so if we are indeed drafting a qb, i hope he decides in a qb in the first 2 rounds. if he doesn't see one there then he might as well not draft one, because the odds are not good after round 1 and 2. i don't doubt gene's drafting skills, his 2 drafts so far have been good. though i don't see any player that will be great, but that's ok. he just needs to make sure to draft a great qb or we could just be in this rebuilding cycle all over again
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: Shwaz on December 27, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
i think the jags have to go qb in the first 2 rounds. i think the fans will demand this, if not it could be a very shaky year next year
I met with the Jags a couple weeks ago about an opportunity to join the Champions Club. During the presentation they spoke about how strong tickets sales have been... not for just this season but next season and the 2012 season. Most people are renewing through the 20-20 / 30-30 package and the team is way ahead of pace in terms of sales.
A quote in the Ask Vic column today sums it up - "As Bill Polian once said, if you listen to the fans, you’ll end up sitting with them."
if this was a couple weeks ago then this was before out current 2 week meltdown. now i have no doubt that there will be people still buying the season tickets next year with the 30-30 plan and such, but i doubt we are anywhere close to selling out every game next year. i'm sure after these last 2 games that a lot of peoples minds have changed some. now if the jags win next week and the colts lose, then of course those minds could change again, but it's a big if for both of those 2 things to happen.
I disagree. After the Colts loss we had one of the best tickets sales weeks of the year. Also, the team is ahead of pace now for where they were in March & April of this year... and this spring we had a hell of a push in ticket sales.
There's a lot vitriol in this town-no doubt-when it comes to the Jags... but I think a smarter fan base is growing by the day. I think the way of ticket purchasers recognize a young team that is still rebuilding and definitely on the rise.
^^^agreed. And if you ask me, I think the fans set their self of for disappointment. Dont Blame it on the team. The past month I said a winning record(9-7) and 2nd in the division was good with me. That was realistic. The playoffs were not even uttered out of mouth because we make too many mistakes. We wouldnt make it past the first playoff game.
Its time for us to be realistic about the situation... Its not going to change overnight. 9-7, number 2 in the division and no black outs sound like a good year to me.! Im ready for next season.
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 27, 2010, 04:09:22 PM
i don't doubt that there have been busts at qb in the first 2 rounds, i'm just saying that out of all of the best qb's they almost always come from the first 2 rounds. so if we are indeed drafting a qb, i hope he decides in a qb in the first 2 rounds. if he doesn't see one there then he might as well not draft one, because the odds are not good after round 1 and 2. i don't doubt gene's drafting skills, his 2 drafts so far have been good. though i don't see any player that will be great, but that's ok. he just needs to make sure to draft a great qb or we could just be in this rebuilding cycle all over again
I guess this is where we will agree to disagree. I'm of the opinion that a great QB can hide a lot of deficiencies in the rest of the team. I also think that an average QB with great parts around him and make the playoffs year after year after year. So I'm starting to turn towards GMGene and his BAP philosophy after only 2 years, and I think after this year, it will be only better. IMO, we have greater needs than QB - Defensive Secondary, Defensive End, because Garrard has shown he can play, albeit somewhat streaky. Time will tell, and if I'm right, I'll be sure to revisit this thread ;D
Ya know I was just thinking..... WE went from 5-11, to 7-9, and now possiably 8-8 or 9-7. What the hell is everyone complaining about again? This is called PROGRESS. Would could be 2-13 like the panthers and a few other teams. Let's just be thankful and hope for the best.
Oh lets see were the #3 rushing team in the league and we go into Indy and they rush for over a 100 yards, then we face a patched up Skins defense only to face a flat Jags offense, special teams plays the worst game of the season, and we get the Bad Garrard. How many times have we heard Del Rio say DG holds onto the ball to long, DG needs to stop taking sacks, and yet he continues to do it, along with over throwing wide open receivers. Record may be a tad better, but if we lose the last three then is there really a difference? Besides the thrilling wins this seasons that probably gain some more fan support. We really have the same team with DG at the Helm.
Also Duvaldudue we could 13-2 did you ever think that? And we are hoping for the best.
The time has come to replace # 9.
^^^I totally agree. Minus the Oakland game Garrard has a recent hat trick of crucial game ending mistakes.
Against NYG, he gets sacked, ending the game.
Against IND down by three, he throws an interception.
Against WAS he throws another interception (he says he got hit before the throw, when he actually didn't).
I can't believe that we lost to the Nation's Capital Pigs.
I used to remember when NFC teams didn't have a chance in hell of beating the Jags at home; It retroactively was sorta like "Not up in here!!!!" These days it's "Yup, up in here..." :(
Next yr should be interesting we should get the Jets, Ravens,Chargers, Saints, and Bucs at home. Plus our usual foes. NFC South, AFC North. Good home schedule. I may go to the Atl and Panthers away games.
QuoteI'm of the opinion that a great QB can hide a lot of deficiencies in the rest of the team.
A great QB can also uncover "greatness". How much better would Jones-Drew be with a good QB? We suspect Marcedes Lewis is great... imagine a QB who could get him the ball. Sims-Walker pro bowler? Yeah... if we had a QB. O-line average? Not with a QB who could change a play or get rid of the ball...
Gotta get a QB... 8)
so it looks like garrard will be out with surgery on his middle finger. mjd will also be out, i guess they have no hope in making the playoffs. would be funny if we do win and the colts lose.
Trent Edwards playoff run.
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 29, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
so it looks like garrard will be out with surgery on his middle finger. mjd will also be out, i guess they have no hope in making the playoffs. would be funny if we do win and the colts lose.
That's the same thing I said! This is the NFL and strange things are a regular occurance.
Quote from: hanjin1 on December 29, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
so it looks like garrard will be out with surgery on his middle finger. mjd will also be out, i guess they have no hope in making the playoffs. would be funny if we do win and the colts lose.
We can hope for the proper alignment of planets, of course!
I hope everyone with the Trent Edwards craze has gotten that sh*t out of their system now...
Edwards nor Bowman are the answer for the Jags. We need a cerebral QB that can take control of the offense instead of taking orders from the booth. I love Garrard to death but the mistakes are getting the better of us.
I really hope Gene Smith can find us the next elite up & comer. We passed on some great young talents over the last few years. It's time to get the next one in teal.
It should be a good draft because we can take the best player available unless it is a running back or kicker.