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Title: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on August 31, 2010, 04:47:52 AM
Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/985918746_wpmCP-M.jpg)

Metro Jacksonville explores one of the city's newest and largest neighborhoods on the Westside: Argyle

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-aug-suburban-jacksonville-argyle
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: copperfiend on August 31, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
My parents moved to Chimney Lakes when I was 11. I actually lived one street down from where this picture was taken.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/gallery/index.php?i=985914553&ik=C9CDZ&g=13532171&gk=i2u6N
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: videojon on August 31, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
The traffic south of 295 on Blanding is out of control. Hopefully the new Collins/295 interchange will ease this. To put it in perspective, there are a total of 5 turning lanes, yes FIVE (four south, 1 north), to get onto Blanding from the 295 S off ramp.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: thelakelander on August 31, 2010, 12:26:11 PM
You don't lose weight by buying a bigger belt. Adding more capacity in the area will not help reduce traffic flow on any of those streets.   Especially when you already have a developer ready to move forward with nearly 400,000 square feet of retail space at that interchange as soon as it opens.  My guess is that the new interchange won't do much for Blanding traffic flowing south.  None of the other projects constructed in the area over the last decade have.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on August 31, 2010, 01:02:28 PM
I avoid Blanding at all cost during the week!!! and sometimes the weekend as well.  Really hated working on Kinglesy a few years ago.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: videojon on August 31, 2010, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 31, 2010, 12:26:11 PM
You don't lose weight by buying a bigger belt. Adding more capacity in the area will not help reduce traffic flow on any of those streets.   

But you can lose weight by distributing that fat to another person (collins road). I too won't believe it until I see it but I'm an example of someone who will use the Collins St exit to go home as opposed to Blanding Blvd.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: thelakelander on August 31, 2010, 01:59:03 PM
QuoteBut you can lose weight by distributing that fat to another person (collins road).

You just end up creating two fat people instead of one.  History has proven that new development will eat all the new capacity created by road expansion.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: jandar on August 31, 2010, 02:13:24 PM
Once again a prime example of Clay and Duval not working together under the TPO.

Neither county has any traffic issues 4 miles away from I-295/Blanding, but both deal with the mess there their own ways.
I've seen the lights timed perfectly for Argyle onto Blanding traffic, but this backs Blanding up going northbound.

Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: urbaknight on August 31, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
COMMUTER RAIL COMMUTER RAIL COMMUTER RAIL!!! The next time we overload our roads, we'll have no more room for further road development. Commuter rail would be perfect along blanding. Let's abandon road construction and sprawl. If sprawl is minimized, people would nave no choice but to fill in and re occupy areas of town that are run down and vacant. Too much more sprawl, and I fear we will lose the Downtown and the whole urban core forever. It's now do or die for any urban progress. I said it before and will keep on saying it, let's make an environmental issue. Road projects, office complexes and shopping centers with acres of parking lots all take away from our forrests, swamps and echosystems, driving wildlife out of their habitats and into death. We need the EPA to get involved and mandate against sprawl.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: videojon on August 31, 2010, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: urbaknight on August 31, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
COMMUTER RAIL COMMUTER RAIL COMMUTER RAIL!!! The next time we overload our roads, we'll have no more room for further road development. Commuter rail would be perfect along blanding. Let's abandon road construction and sprawl. If sprawl is minimized, people would nave no choice but to fill in and re occupy areas of town that are run down and vacant. Too much more sprawl, and I fear we will lose the Downtown and the whole urban core forever. It's now do or die for any urban progress. I said it before and will keep on saying it, let's make an environmental issue. Road projects, office complexes and shopping centers with acres of parking lots all take away from our forrests, swamps and echosystems, driving wildlife out of their habitats and into death. We need the EPA to get involved and mandate against sprawl.

Would the commuter rail only be along Blanding? People drive from all over the westside and Clay County to get to this area. As much as I like the idea of commuter rails, I don't think they are an answer to everything.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: urbaknight on August 31, 2010, 04:10:27 PM
Blanding is just one good place, Sorry I should've been more clear. Beach bvld, Phillips hwy, Atlantic bvld and any other major thoroughfares that run into the city that comes to mind. Where I come from, commuter rail criss crosses each other everywhere, Although it is easy to get lost there, it's still better than anything here in Jax. And we have a great opportunity to learn from everyone else's mistakes and make a super efficient system. We can't make it flawless but it can be close.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: north miami on August 31, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
 Too much more sprawl, and I fear we will lose the Downtown and the whole urban core forever. It's now do or die for any urban progress. I said it before and will keep on saying it, let's make an environmental issue. We need the EPA to get involved and mandate against sprawl.
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How appropriate that a thread on a neighborhood profile would quickly veer in to the growth and roadway congestion lane.

The transformation of the Argyle region has occurred in the midst of "Growth Management" principle and process,Planners & Consultants, multiple state environmental agency involvement and the spectre of federal/EPA oversight.
The process was not without predictive capability and opposition to poor policy and expected horrendous,damaging impacts.

Finding truth in this matter will only come when we lose an illusion.Losing an illusion comes only as a result of the horrendous impacts.Too late.
Title: Re: Suburban Jacksonville: Argyle
Post by: fieldafm on September 01, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
I really think Lake is really trying to trace my history in his tours.  The Argyle photos feature a house owned by me ex-gf and right down the street is my grandmother(the Riverside, Murray Hill, and Ortega posts also feature my family's homes) 
Lake, if you want to know more about me just PM me and I'll be glad to give you my geneology book.... just kidding  :)