2007 Census: How does Jacksonville rank?
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As of July 1, 2006, Jacksonville has an estimated population of 794,555. These charts illustrate where our numbers place us in the grand scheme of things.
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insane. how is austin so much cooler? we have a freaking beach! there is a 78% chance of getting the death penalty is texas!
who knows, their motto is "KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD", and they do have alot of diversity.
the tables seem to need some editing....it shows Jax growth at 1.5% but later shows 15%....which is it?
Also, San Jose and Denver are now FL cities?
Austin does have a state university and is the capital.
I noticed that, guess someone made an error, just a stab in the dark guess.
It looks like it was not ready to go live. I'll check with the census stats and attempt to fix it up.
The numbers for Jax seem low. Weren't there numbers released last year that stated jax was around 886k?
no, those numbers are correct. The 2010 estimate is between 800,000 to 850,000. At the rate growth continues, COJ can top 1million by 2025-2030ish.
Nevermind, those are city population numbers not county.
Thanks Reed
Alright, everything other than the growth rates of Florida cities 8-10, has been updated. Its a good thing that a link to the actual numbers was posted in the article.
From my understanding, the 1.5% population growth represents the past year's growth, while the 14.8% represents growth between 200 and 2006.
Bare numbers like these don't reflect the numbers that go to Austin to go to school. How about the number of folks flooding Mickey Mouseburg, that don't have a job, are retired, or never worked in the first place. Just imagine the boom going on in Orlando, future Wal-Mart capital of the World. Only St. Petersburg, "Florida's last resort", lives down to it's numbers. At least that 14.8% coming to Jacksonville are, or soon will be upward mobile professionals.
Opinions anyone? Can any of you find something better in Jacksonville, then the rest of Florida? Oh come on, let your hair down (does anyone still say that?) and have some fun. Take a poke at the competition for the old Hippie... Oh me first? Okay, you asked for it.
Orlando? Home to vermon, Wal-Mart, T-Shirt shops and $39.00 hotel rooms, career choices include: Waiting tables, pumping gas or making beds, and making beds, pumping gas and waiting tables.
Miami? Land of canceled condo construction. The 6Th borough. Si habla Espanol? Had Mrs. Tuttles flowers wilted, Flagler or anybody else would have never moved here. Great City to build over the dune line, then get the rest of the State to fund beach restoration. Duh...
Okay, y'all are up to bat... knock em dead!
Ocklawaha
jax has the best original alternative music scene in fla--- also most progressive art scene, most representive of
todays contemporary art. but you wont know it by cable or e tv. its underground, accessible by internet.
i always wondered why, after returning to jax from nyc, i hit the element of urban art in jaxvillian flori duh. the numbers say it the biggest city in floriduh has appeal to manyartists w/ nyc "experience" (?). like that means something today. we still have A LOT to accomplish, but ot does answer my question. i thought jax pop numbers were less than 30th, even in metro area.
I agree about the local music scene. I'd be willing to argue that there are more native Jax bands that hit the big time than almost any other city, certainly the south.
Quote from: Jason on September 21, 2007, 08:37:54 AM
I agree about the local music scene. I'd be willing to argue that there are more native Jax bands that hit the big time than almost any other city, certainly the south.
Yeah, about the only big ones out there are Lynard Skynard and Yellowcard, well technically, Yellowcard is from Jacksonville Beach.
I'll get you a list of local bands that made the Billboard Charts... It will suprise you.
Here is what I could come up with off of the top of my head...
From back in the day...
Pat Boone (born 1934) pop singer
Nick Todd (born 1935) pop singer
Jo Ann Campbell (born 1938) country/pop singer & actress
Scott McKenzie (born 1939) Rock and roll singer
Johnny Tillotson (born 1939) pop singer, songwriter, actor
Gary U.S. Bonds (born 1939) R&B singer
Jackie Moore (born 1946) R&B singer
Rita Coolidge
Slim Whitman
Marcus Roberts
Frederic Delius
Groups from back in the day to the 90's
Classics IV (1965) Pop Rock
Lynyrd Skynyrd (1970) Southern Rock
Blackfoot (1972) Rock/Southern Rock
Molly Hatchet (1975) Southern Rock
.38 Special (1975) Rock
From the 90's to now
95 South (1992) Hip Hop
69 Boyz (1993) Hip Hop
Mase (born 1977) hip hop star
Limp Bizkit (1994) Metal Rock
Inspection 12 (1994) Pop Punk
Quad City DJ's (1995) Hip Hop
Yellowcard (1997) Pop Punk
Evergreen Terrace (2001) Hardcore
Allele (2002) Rock
Shinedown (2001) Rock
The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (2003) Rock
BurnSeason
Cold
I know there are more that I'm missing...
Ray Charles
Oliver Hardy*
*Yes he WAS a singer too, and a damn good one!
Ocklawaha
The Rosington Collins Band?
Is Ray from Jacksonville or did he have a home here after becomming famous?
He first started playing at Genover's Hall on Ashley Street. He stayed around the corner from it in LaVilla before moving to Seattle.
Oliver Hardy started here too and was from Georgia.
Ocklawaha
Ray was from Central Florida, and went to school in St Augustine. He used to visit his Aunt here in Jax, and that was when he started playing the scene in La Villa.
Not to be Debby Downer or anything, but it seems we lost rack that this is about the population of COJ, not music.
I don't think we're off topic. These folks are all part of the population of Jacksonville...at one time or another... :)
Besides, you called me out and I couldn't resist! :D
Quote from: konstantconsumer on September 20, 2007, 09:32:41 AM
insane. how is austin so much cooler? we have a freaking beach! there is a 78% chance of getting the death penalty is texas!
Austin is run by old hippies which immediately equals way cool. We have a beach--a nude beach as well. Hippie Hollow...google it. Our beach is on a lake. Lake Travis. The lake is 100 feet deep in places. Our lake generates electricity because of the Mansfield Damn. We are hill country. We are Austin. Not a huge Longhorn fan but heck, we are on solid ground, not that sandy shifty crap. Perhaps the magnetic field is different because of the granite.
Austin? Oh my Gatorback, how quickly our people are deluded by these Texas Hippies... FYI, The only hippie to ever come out of Texas was Janis Joplin, and Texas damn near killed her before she escaped to the Left Coast! Oil? Just ask Conoco, Phillips, Kerr-Mcgee, Sinclair, Magnolia etc... Go to Dallas and drive NORTH! Cool? Ever hear of Bricktown? How about Deep Duce? Longhorns? Isn't that a steakhouse in Jacksonville's Southside?
Didn't you hear that right after consolidation, Jacksonville, considered annexing Texas and making it a City Park? Longhorns? Really? Smelly Long Horn Cattle? Say Texan, Geographically Speaking... OKLAHOMA IS ALWAYS ON TOP OF TEXAS!
GO POKES! OSU! OSU! OSU! AGGIES FOREVER! OKLAHOMA STATE! YEEE HAWW!
We just gotta love JACKSONVILLE!
Ocklawaha
Ocklawaha, you have to reread my blog. Austin is run by a bunch of old hippies. It's inhabited by a bunch of hippies. They produce hippies...Hippie! haha My hippie friend, Austin is Hippie Haven why would hippies leave? What was Janis thinking? I'll get to Oklahoma City in a minute but first Austin.
Austin has the second largest vegetarian population in the nation....along with some great scenery here in the hill country. People should check it out. Almost every night we get 2 or 3 bucks from each roommate, head up to Central Market and get tons of fresh fruit, vegetables, etc. - and have a giant veggie-kabob for dinner. It feeds everyone and also provides for a great way to get together at night in the backyard and just hang out. If you like hanging out with friends you like Austin.
Barton Creek Park is another great hangout - it's a linear park that follows Barton Creek - along the cliff walls there are several caves for exploring... just a totally surreal environment. Everyone in Austin just seems so mellow and content. This attitude doesn't come from the bottom-up, it comes from the top down. Our elected officials have this same positive mental attitude. If you like working together solving problems you like Austin.
The student population is enormous. UT is the largest university site in the world, and there are a host of other schools here like St. Edwards, Concordia, ACC, Huston-Tillotson, the list goes on and on. Austin has one of the highest student to population ratios known to man. If you like intellectuals, you like Austin.
Like food or rather good food? In the spring of 2005 Whole Foods Market, the world's leading natural and organic food supermarket, opened a landmark store in Austin, Texas, their world headquarters. The new store is at the corner of Sixth Street and Lamar Boulevard, near downtown, and is the company's largest, at 80,000 square feet. This location is a few blocks from where the first Whole Foods was located 25 years ago. But this store is quite different from the original. If you like good food you like Austin.
Like live music? Um, enough said. If you like music you like Austin.
Like tax credits for owning electric powered bikes, cars, boats, n e thing? If you like tax credits for owning alternative powered go-mobiles you like Austin.
Do you like exotic wild birds? Somebody released Monk (Quaker) Parakeets in Austin and the birds appearently liked it so much they stayed. If you like monks you like Austin ...hahah
Ask anyone from out of town what they like so much about Austin, and the answer is almost invariably, "6th street!". Great, so the main attraction to the city is a couple of blocks (big blocks, after all this is Texas and everything is bigger in Texas) of bars and low quality restaurants designed to serve the student community where drunk young 20 year olds can get on with their public intoxication and, date raping--which brings me next point. Ocklahoma.
Ocklahoma? Ocklahoma City. I mean really. I'm getting raped in OKC. See my Rover in the picture below, the one bent over toward the fence. Yep. Once I get the money to get her back from OKC I promise never to leave Austin again.
Which brings me to my last point. Me. If you like me you like Austin.
Welp, that's it, my last edit...my battery is running low and after reading my blog about Austin I've decided to find something new for next time. Aggie? ;D
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Hey Gatorback...
Gee that was fun. I did get you to go into some depth on what makes Austin such a cool place didn't I? I know the hill country quite well, my wife and I are sometime cavers. Daughters Trilby and Tyra claim they have been under more of Texas, Missouri, Arkansas and New Mexico, then they have over it. My daddy worked throughout the oil patch "back in the day". Strawn Texas is named for my uncles family! The Wichita Falls and Southern Railroad was built by my Mom's family! When they were little, they lived on the Oklahoma-Kansas border (in Kansas) and were not allowed to cross over and play with the Okie kids because they were "dirty and dangerous." That was around Pittsburgh KS. People generally think I'm blowing the old smoke pipe when I say my family rode with Quantrail (former Ohio School Professor). No S**T, they really did! So Belle Starr, Sam Starr (From Younger's Bend, OK), Cole and Jim Younger, The Dalton's (from Kingfisher OK), Jessie and Frank James (Missouri Boy's) and Blood Bill Anderson, were all household names. See I fit right in in Oklahoma AND Jacksonville! My sister has a place in Bandera.
I love the hill country of Texas and Oklahoma. Most Okie's will tell you that the Eastern Mountain ranges (OK) or the Ar buckle's are full of wicked, mean, bad and nasty people. I always found it to be the opposite. The folks in OKC have done a great job on the City, but don't try and invade their space with conversation. Don't try and be one of them, in fact, don't go there! My wife and I attended OSU (which is in Stillwater), it's another TINY Austin (for you Florida boys and girls about the size of Fernandina Beach). It might as well be on MARS. It probably has a higher % of students and professors then Austin, since the whole industry of Stillwater is OSU. There is a nice campus in OKC as well, and the school is light years ahead of anything I have ever experienced in Florida, in ease of getting things done. One stop counseling, scheduling, funding and registration. Everyone helps, everyone is part of the team, including the students and faculty.
So you see my friend, I'm with you on this one. As for Janis? She grew up South of Houston, in the 1960's the Bible belt and small coastal towns were not a place for a counter-culture hippie chick. Those kids were downright cruel to her... Today they all live in in clusters around OKC! Trust me, my Anglo-Hispanic daughters found out the hard way!
Keep the comments coming, at least we'll "Leave Them Laughing!"
Ocklawaha
Quote from: Jason on September 21, 2007, 08:49:26 AM
I'll get you a list of local bands that made the Billboard Charts... It will suprise you.
forget the billboard charts. they mean nothing to a music scene. a good scene is more about how often you can go to see good live music in your own town. the fact that big, or somewhat big names have come out of jacksonville doesn't mean anything.
i don't doubt that jacksonville's music scene might be the best in the state, but i wouldn't say it's good. maybe we should stop comparing ourselves to the rest of florida. austin apparently doesn't think like the rest of the state of texas.
Th live music scene in Jax is pretty good, IMO. I think the key is that you just have to know where to find it because it is very spread out. Freebirds is probably the best place to catch a random show and the bands are very diverse. If you dig the mellow "guy and a guitar" type, try out the Milltop Tavern on St. George St. in Saint Augustine.
TSI brings in great bands from all over the world. I caught the japanese emo band one night while i was out working the hotdog cart; and then the rappers from the NYC! He was good. I know they give the locals the stage on Mondays...everbody is welcome. www.clubtsi.com
well weres atlanta in the top fatestest growing u>s citeies.....o my fault it wasnt there just like i said metro area is bs counting all the surrounding areas as one is a cheap thenique t show grwoth to atrract bussnes ...so lets say Jax ,orange park,pote vedra ,nassua ,st.augstine
Maybe this does/doesn't deserve a new thread - but pretty interesting nonetheless:
TOP 40, BABY!QuoteJacksonville jumps five places in population rank
Raleigh has made the most impressive climb since 2000 in the population rankings of metropolitan areas, according to estimates released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau.
Buffalo and New Orleans, on the other hand, have suffered the sharpest declines.
The Census Bureau released population estimates for all 940 metropolitan and micropolitan areas across the country on Tuesday. The figures do not come from the decennial census that is under way, but reflect the population as of July 1, 2009.
North Carolina’s Raleigh-Cary metro, which ranked 59th in 2000, is 49th in the new standings. Its rise of 10 places in nine years is the biggest gain registered by any metro in the current top 50.
Buffalo was 42nd in 2000, but is 50th now, a drop of eight places. New Orleans has also dropped eight places since the turn of the century -- from 38th to 46th.
Other big gainers during the past decade were Las Vegas (up six places), Austin and Jacksonville (both up five) and Charlotte (up four).
Jacksonville's population was 1,122,750 in 2000, ranking 45th, and that rose to 1,328,144 last year for 40th place.
Other significant declines occurred in Providence, which fell five places, and Milwaukee, which dropped four.
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/03/22/daily10.html
Also, check out the link within the story:
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/blog/the_score/2010/03/buffalo_clings_to_50th_on_population_list.html
If you just use Florida in the criteria, it's interesting to notice that while Key West has declined in population in the last decade, Palm Coast has nearly doubled - I think we need to get some Jaguars shuttle busses down there to some of the retirement villages!
Great that we jumped up, but now we can't use the small market defense for when we can't sell out a jag game. Wouldn't this put us at 4th smallest??
Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2010, 01:20:03 PM
Great that we jumped up, but now we can't use the small market defense for when we can't sell out a jag game. Wouldn't this put us at 4th smallest??
Yes, it would, but the gap between Jacksonville and the next smallest markets is pretty significant. If I remember right, Indianapolis is about 1.6 million, Charlotte is a little over that, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are about 1.9 each.
But it's a moot point, because we're selling out this year.
The bottom 10 in the NFL now go something like this
Green Bay - 304,000
Buffalo - 1,123,000
New Orleans - 1,189,000
Jacksonville - 1,328,000
Nashville - 1,582,000
Indianapolis - 1,743,000
Charlotte - 1,745,000
Kansas City - 2,067,000
Cleveland - 2,091,000
Cincinnati - 2,171,000
40th place....In the top 40,
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well weres atlanta in the top fatestest growing u>s citeies.....o my fault it wasnt there just like i said metro area is bs counting all the surrounding areas as one is a cheap thenique t show grwoth to atrract bussnes ...so lets say Jax ,orange park,pote vedra ,nassua ,st.augstine
Metro Area is what matters the most. Most metro areas are close in size...populations are different.
QuoteThe bottom 10 in the NFL now go something like this
Green Bay - 304,000
Buffalo - 1,123,000
New Orleans - 1,189,000
Jacksonville - 1,328,000
Nashville - 1,582,000
Indianapolis - 1,743,000
Charlotte - 1,745,000
Kansas City - 2,067,000
Cleveland - 2,091,000
Cincinnati - 2,171,000
At least 5 of the mid to smaller markets have been shrinking over the last decade - mostly rust belt + New Orleans (Detroit & Pittsburgh also come to mind, not listed above) - Also, when will people just admit that Green Bay is propped up by Milwaukee?
Yeah, Milwaukee is about 1,500,000. It's a full 2 hour drive away, but obviously their population helps since the fans are so die-hard. The same thing could also be said about Buffalo (1 hour from Rochester, population 1,000,000) or even New Orleans (90 minutes from Baton Rouge, population 700,000) or for that matter Cincinnati (50 minutes from Dayton, population 850,000). Jacksonville is somewhat unique in that it's probably the only NFL market that's truly under 2 million people within a 2 hour drive.
Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland are the only markets ahead of Jax that are really shrinking. If current trends continue, Jax will get larger that Pittsburgh and Cleveland, but probably not for another 20-30 years.
In general (i.e. not just the NFL cities), it seems reasonable that Jax will leapfrog Milwaukee and Providence by 2020, putting the metro at #38 in the nation. Beyond that, it really doesn't look like Jax has much potential to change spots either up or down for awhile.