What's wrong with a man saying he would like his life back like anyone else? I see nothing wrong with the statement that is so overblown in the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdKa9eWNFw
Well, I would like the gulf back.
I am happy he choose to step down. I was not please with his attitude toward the oil spill and how he would not answer any questions. As the CEO he should have been a little more helpful and cooperative.
The fact of the matter is that people were looking for an ass to kick and therefore the media cut out what he said before that infamous "I'd Like my Life Back". Listen to the entire clip. It is not easy to get even with a big company like BP so we take it out on one man.
Don't feel too bad for him, he's reportedly getting $18 million to leave so he's getting his life back and then some. The 11 dead workers and millions affected along the Gulf Coast will surely figure out their own golden parachute.
I don't see how his comments were taken out of context.
There is noone who wants this thing over more than I do...I want my life back.
Yes, he acknowledges that he wants a swift end to the disaster. He still comes across as callous, in my opinion, over wanting his 'life' back. Surely, he must know that his life will eventually return to normal. For those dead workers, that day will never come...
P.S. - Don't these executives get paid $$$ because they are supposed to be so flipping brilliant?
Quote from: Jaxson on July 26, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
I don't see how his comments were taken out of context.
There is noone who wants this thing over more than I do...I want my life back.
Yes, he acknowledges that he wants a swift end to the disaster. He still comes across as callous, in my opinion, over wanting his 'life' back. Surely, he must know that his life will eventually return to normal. For those dead workers, that day will never come...
P.S. - Don't these executives get paid $$$ because they are supposed to be so flipping brilliant?
So what do you gain by venting against one man who said something that might have been politically incorrect? Do you feel better now?
The guy was the spokesman and face of the BP disaster, that's how it works.
If you'd like, you can submit your apology to BP here: http://apologizetobp.com
Quote from: Cricket on July 27, 2010, 08:02:10 AM
Quote from: Jaxson on July 26, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
I don't see how his comments were taken out of context.
There is noone who wants this thing over more than I do...I want my life back.
Yes, he acknowledges that he wants a swift end to the disaster. He still comes across as callous, in my opinion, over wanting his 'life' back. Surely, he must know that his life will eventually return to normal. For those dead workers, that day will never come...
P.S. - Don't these executives get paid $$$ because they are supposed to be so flipping brilliant?
So what do you gain by venting against one man who said something that might have been politically incorrect? Do you feel better now?
Cricket,
'Politically incorrect?' Let's not turn this guy into a free speech hero. We quickly forget that we are asking young people to watch what they say online because it could adversely affect their college careers or their jobs. I routinely read about people who get fired from their jobs for doing or saying things that are not even remotely related to their work. So, I believe that Tony Hayward was old enough to have known better. That is why he was the CEO of a large corporation and was not working the fry bin at a fast food place. It's about being responsible with our words regardless of how old we are. Why are we sticking up for Hayward like he is the only person capable of doing his job? We are all expendable to one extent or another. And, if Hayward is expendable, BP has a lot more problems than you think.
It is not a matter of my 'venting'. I save the venting for those who were directly affected by this disaster. I simply said that I do not see how his insensitive comments were taken 'out of context.' He said that he wants his life back at a time when 11 others cannot get theirs back. Now if he said, "I want this to be over like everybody else. And, like everybody else, I would like to have my life back," I don't think that there would be so much anger. If I got paid millions, I think that I would watch what I say... It doesn't affect me if he stayed or left, but I am not going to make excuses for someone who should know better. And, Cricket, we can save our sympathy for this man. He is not very likely to be going into the poorhouse. He has a golden parachute that dwarfs any unemployment compensation...
Quote from: Lunican on July 27, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
The guy was the spokesman and face of the BP disaster, that's how it works.
If you'd like, you can submit your apology to BP here: http://apologizetobp.com
LOL. I believe that we all owe an apology to BP for our failure to understand their pain. We should remember that these have been very difficult times for BP executives and their families. We should condemn those yokels in the gulf region for their petty whining over lost lives and income...
To you guys who want to frame my comments as an apology to BP I will say this and leave you to vent some more at one man. The exact quote before the words that got you people so upset was, "We are very sorry for the massive disruption that caused so many lives. There is no one that wants this thing over more than I do." The media doesn't want you to hear the whole comment because the media knows that you are slaves to their little soundbites that get you so angry that you can rave and rant and say that I am apologizing for BP which is ridiculous. Your anger would be better served if you directed it to the failure of a company that didn't put in place failsafe measures to protect the Gulf. And also our government for not adequately monitoring those measures.
But I can understand the anger at Hayward. It is not easy to rant at a corporation or an institution, we always need a face even if that person had little or nothing to do with the failures in the first place.
The only ranting and raving I see here are against "the media" (which, by the way, did not spill half a billion gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico).
I wonder how the replacement of Howard as CEO of British Petroleum with an American is playing in the British media? :)
QuoteTony Hayward declared that he had been “demonised†as chief executive of BP, as the oil giant announced his exit and unveiled a £21 billion bill for the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster. In valedictory remarks at the group’s St James’s Square headquarters, Mr Hayward said he had no major regrets about his leadership of the group since 2007 and said his decision to leave was a purely “practical†one. “This is a very sad day for me personally,†he said. “Whether it is fair or unfair is not the point. I became the public face [of the disaster] and was demonised and vilified. BP cannot move on in the US with me as its leader... Life isn’t fair.†“Sometimes you step off the pavement and get hit by a bus,†he added.
QuoteRobert Dudley (pictured at BP's headquarters yesterday) is the safe pair of hands taking the helm of one of the hottest seats in UK plc and restore BP's battered reputation in the USA.
The oil industry veteran, who speaks with a Southern American drawl, will replace Tony Hayward as the new chief executive of BP at a time when the oil giant is under furious attack.
He is the first ever American to take the top job at the oil giant.
He joined Amoco in 1979, and stayed with the firm for nearly two decades.
When BP and Amoco merged in 1998, Mr Dudley, known as Bob, became a BP employee. He was made an executive director in April last year and earns £1.5m a year.
After Mr Hayward's disastrous PR gaffes, it was Mr Dudley who the company turned to, knowing that a native would be better received by an increasingly hostile America.
Mr Dudley, who is married with two children, grew up in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and has a chemical engineernig degree from the University of Illinois.
He is currently president and chief executive of BP's Gulf Coast Restoration Organisation, working with the oil leakage in the Gulf of Mexico.
He is responsible for the clean-up, informing the public about the disaster and analysing the damage that it has caused.
Before his new role, Mr Dudley was best-known for being forced to flee Russia in fear for his safety in 2008 following a row over a Russian joint venture, TNK-BP.He said he had suffered 'sustained harassment' from the Russians.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1297940/Oil-spill-sends-BP-11bn-red-Tony-Hayward-exiled.html#ixzz0utEJwF6V
Quote from: stephendare on July 27, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
[Your point is a little silly. Luckily there is a page which you can go apologize on all of our behalves to BP. After all, we are clearly witless little automatons who have been cleverly fooled by the media into thinking the head of the company should bear some responsiblity for its actions. Silly us, and how progressive of you to realize it!
Oftentimes the effort to be as sarcastic as possible gets in the way of sensible and civil conversation and you have proven time and time again to be very good at these little childish sarcastic digs on MJ. Obviously I am not apologizing for Hayward or BP. I am only saying that our anger as usual is being manipulated by the media over one comment by one man.
Now, you can continue with your sarcasms.
Quote from: stephendare on July 27, 2010, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Cricket on July 27, 2010, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: stephendare on July 27, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
[Your point is a little silly. Luckily there is a page which you can go apologize on all of our behalves to BP. After all, we are clearly witless little automatons who have been cleverly fooled by the media into thinking the head of the company should bear some responsiblity for its actions. Silly us, and how progressive of you to realize it!
Oftentimes the effort to be as sarcastic as possible gets in the way of sensible and civil conversation and you have proven time and time again to be very good at these little childish sarcastic digs on MJ. Obviously I am not apologizing for Hayward or BP. I am only saying that our anger as usual is being manipulated by the media over one comment by one man.
Now, you can continue with your sarcasms.
Let me know how the apology goes. Im sure the rest of the sheeple on this site would like to know as well. Thank goodness we have you to keep us on the straight and narrow.
C'mon, is this the best you can do? I've seen better from you.
Now that you've decided to temper your remarks without the typical Stephendare sarcastic slurs, I can answer you in kind. It is unfair of you to frame my comments as an apology to BP and in fact for that you should be apologizing to me. And no where did I approve of what Hayward said especially in the atmosphere and the circumstances in which he said it unless he suggested that his desire to get his life back took precedence over everybody else's life. I merely said there was nothing wrong with the sentiment taken by itself. The reason I quoted his words prior to the infamous controversial quote was to point out his admission of the disaster itself and the loss of lives, a reference that was omitted from the media reports in order to sensationalize an already volatile ending to the quote. Now if you want to continue to construe this as an apology on my part you are welcome to do so.
And by the way, you sound more rational without the usual sardonic snipes. It makes you come across as peevish and childish.
Quote from: Cricket on July 27, 2010, 11:22:13 AMI merely said there was nothing wrong with the sentiment taken by itself.
Yes, if you are a schmo walking down the street and you announce, "I'd like my life back!" no one will care.
Quote from: Cricket on July 27, 2010, 09:14:18 AM
To you guys who want to frame my comments as an apology to BP I will say this and leave you to vent some more at one man.
My next question is, "If the CEO is supposed to be the face and voice of a corporation, why are we expected to treat him with kid gloves when he misspeaks?" Like I said in a previous message, if we expect the youngest and lowest of employees to be accountable for their words, why are we so sensitive to protect an executive from being held responsible for his comments? I don't buy the 'The media are out to get Tony Hayward' spin. And, like I said before, I do not believe that Tony Hayward will be crying on the way to the bank with his severance pay...