When Crissie Cudd's husband watched the round up of local neighborhood chickens by a dozen poultry police in four trucks, he was concerned enough to fight back. He opened the cages to release the pent up chickens. Some escaped. He didn't. He was fined $500.00 for his interference.
One has to wonder at the wisdom of spending precious resources on poultry roundups. This is the second shake down of feathered creatures in the last couple of months.
FIRST they came for the Mallards, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a mallard.
THEN they came for the chickens, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a chicken.
(At least, today, someone spoke for the poultry).
http://jaxoutloud.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137689#post137689
It's shameful, at best. These birds have been part of the neighborhood and parks for years and years. It was bad enough that they took the roosters, chickens and then the ducks without consulting the neighborhood residents, but to come back and do it again. Then to fine one of our neighbors 500 bucks because he opened the cages of the birds the city is taking away to kill. Yes, it's been told that they're being killed and not relocated. This is just plain wrong. Why is it, they don't have the money or resources to round up loose dogs that attack and kill other animals and are a threat to people, but they have the money and resources to round up chickens, ducks and roosters that bother nobody; what's up with that? Why are they taking them and why are they killing them? It's just so wrong!!
Cindi says that chickens eat termites. We could use some termite control in the neighborhood.
This really a chicken s%#$ thing for the city to do.
Chickens are susceptible to several parasites, including lice, mites, ticks, fleas, and intestinal worms, as well as other diseases. (Despite the name, they are not affected by Chickenpox; the illness is generally restricted to humans.[26])
According to Wikipedia some of the common diseases that affect chickens include:
Aspergillosis fungi
Avian influenza bird flu virus
Histomoniasis Blackhead disease protozoal parasite
Botulism toxin
Coccidiosis parasites
Colds virus
Dermanyssus gallinae Red mite parasite
Erysipelas bacteria
Fowl Cholera bacteria
Fowl pox virus
Fowl Typhoid bacteria
Gallid herpesvirus 1or Infectious Laryngotracheitis virus
Gapeworm Syngamus trachea worms
Infectious Bronchitis virus
Infectious Bursal Disease
Gumboro virus
Infectious Coryza bacteria
Lymphoid leukosis Avian leukosis virus
Marek's disease virus
Moniliasis Yeast Infection or Thrush fungi
Mycoplasmas bacteria-like organisms
Newcastle disease virus
Necrotic Enteritis bacteria
Prolapse Psittacosis bacteria
Pullorum Salmonella bacteria
Scaly leg parasites
Squamous cell carcinoma cancer
Tibial dyschondroplasia speed growing
Toxoplasmosis protozoal parasite
Ulcerative Enteritis bacteria
Unvaccinated (wild) populations are a health risk to commercial operations, wild bird populations including the wild turkey, and (as a vector for intestinal worms, influenza and coli form bacteria) to humans. Persons most affected include persons with weaker immune systems, such as the elderly, pregnant women, diabetics, patients receiving chemotherapy, and people who are infected with HIV.
I am glad to see them rounded up and glad that the self righteous ignoramus who interfered was cited.
Well, and right there is why I stopped hugging chickens.
I think there's a balance between an uncontrolled population and total elimination. I like to see and hear them in the neighborhood. And I dislike slipping on fowl feces in the park.
What do you suggest? Getting rid of all wildlife?
I do believe that creatures have more to fear from man, than man from creatures...last I looked, we shared this earthly home.
These birds have been around the neighborhood for years and years, so why all of a sudden is the city rounding them up and killing them? Yes, they can be carriers of various insects and diseases, yet I've not heard of anyone in the neighborhood being infected or contracting any sort of illness as a result of wildlife in the parks.
As for the feces...the Canadian geese are worse, yet they're not rounded up to be killed. Sorry, but nobody really does much wandering around in Confederate park, which is where these birds are being collected to be killed.
It would be nice if they would use the same effort to round up the chickens on the He Ho's up at 8th and Perry.............I'm sure the list of things that they carry if far longer and more dangerous than the chicken list above..........
Quote from: tpot on July 11, 2010, 08:09:15 AM
It would be nice if they would use the same effort to round up the chickens on the He Ho's up at 8th and Perry.............I'm sure the list of things that they carry if far longer and more dangerous than the chicken list above..........
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Luke 7:36-50.
36 Then one of the Pharisees asked Him to eat with him. And He went to the Pharisee’s house, and sat down to eat. 37 And behold, a woman in the city who was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at the table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of fragrant oil, 38 and stood at His feet behind Him weeping; and she began to wash His feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head; and she kissed His feet and anointed them with the fragrant oil. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited Him saw this, he spoke to himself, saying, “This Man, if He were a prophet, would know who and what manner of woman this is who is touching Him, for she is a sinner.â€
40 And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.â€
So he said, “Teacher, say it.â€
41 “There was a certain creditor who had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 And when they had nothing with which to repay, he freely forgave them both. Tell Me, therefore, which of them will love him more?â€
43 Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.â€
And He said to him, “You have rightly judged.†44 Then He turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave Me no water for My feet, but she has washed My feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head. 45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman has not ceased to kiss My feet since the time I came in. 46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with fragrant oil. 47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.â€
48 Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.â€
49 And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?â€
50 Then He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.â€
While I dont really agree with pinning it all on the woman especially the ones in the Springfield area, I do sort of like the tone of this specific fable. Just remember those "He Ho's" are someones son/daughter and would probably be doing something else if they had the opportunity!
Hmmm....thanks for the Sunday morning chuch surmon JC.........I generally find that those that do the most "preachin" are the ones most in need of it..............;-)
The preaching doesn't change the fact that they do have a choice, being a hooker is one they decided upon.
Quote from: tpot on July 11, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Hmmm....thanks for the Sunday morning chuch surmon JC.........I generally find that those that do the most "preachin" are the ones most in need of it..............;-)
Nice! :)
Quote from: Springfielder on July 11, 2010, 10:50:12 PM
The preaching doesn't change the fact that they do have a choice, being a hooker is one they decided upon.
Great, thanks for setting that straight, I guess I can move on now!
Springfield Chicken Run! Cudd Frees Avian Detainees
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Neighborhoods/springfield-chicken-run/chickenrunbanner/932001167_xvjZV-O.jpg)
When Max Cudd watched the round up of local neighborhood chickens by a dozen poultry police in four trucks, he was concerned enough to fight back. He opened the cages to release the pent up chickens. Some escaped. He didn't. He was fined $500.00 for his interference.
The ornamental chickens and poultry, part of an aesthetics committee program from the 70s, have been living and thriving in the downtown neighborhoods for decades. The families and members of the Jacksonville Avian Nation have been in the core neighborhoods for decades longer than most.
Brightly colored roosters, gorgeously feathered hens. Suddenly subjected to being rounded up and executed. That is until Max Cudd bravely put his cash on the line!
Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-jul-springfield-chicken-run-cudd-frees-avian-detainees
I want a t-shirt that says "When they came for the chickens, I said nothing, because I wasn't a chicken."
"LET MY CHICKENS GOOOOOOOOO!" - Moses (the chicken)
Quote from: RiversideLoki on July 12, 2010, 09:21:08 AM
"LET MY CHICKENS GOOOOOOOOO!" - Moses (the chicken)
That would also make a good t-shirt.
4 trucks and 12 COJ workers assigned to round up CHICKENS? Are you kidding me? We're in the middle of a recession, and COJ is laying off employees and trying to cut the pension programs for firemen and police officers, and THIS is what somebody considered a wise use of resources? Jesus !@#$ing Christ...
It is a total waste of money! Not to mention those chickens are part of the neighborhood. They aren't harming anyone. Go Maxx!
I want the chickens back....but the city steals them and then kills them >:(
How about a T-Shirt that says "Take the ASH, LEAVE the CHICKENS!"
I miss the chickens downtown. They've been gone a long time. I guess somebody thought $250 apiece ornamental bantam chickens were striking an excessively rural note...
But my most memorable Fourth of July ever was partly because of one of those chickens.
I had gone downtown with a carload of friends to see the fireworks. We picked a spot on the Riverwalk, and waited for the show to start. There was a pretty little rooster strutting around near us, up past his bedtime because there were so many people around.
The fireworks began. BOOM! KA-POW! BLAM BLAM BLAM! And the crowd went "Oooh! Ahhh!"
And in every single pause, the little rooster would crow with all his might. He was tiny, so all his might sounded like an extremely enthusiastic rusty gate hinge.
He was hilarious. Everyone within hearing range was cracking up laughing, and enjoying themselves a lot more than they would have without his contribution to the festivities.
Bring back the downtown chickens!
Oh, I forgot. Hizzoner's phone number is 630-1776, in case you want to complain about God knows how much money being wasted by paying people God knows how much to remove something that bothers nobody.
Well, nobody but some old biddies, anyway.
Quote from: Starbuck on July 11, 2010, 01:06:46 AM
Chickens are susceptible to several parasites, including lice, mites, ticks, fleas, and intestinal worms, as well as other diseases. (Despite the name, they are not affected by Chickenpox; the illness is generally restricted to humans.[26])
According to Wikipedia some of the common diseases that affect chickens include:
Aspergillosis fungi
Avian influenza bird flu virus
Histomoniasis Blackhead disease protozoal parasite
Botulism toxin
Coccidiosis parasites
Colds virus
Dermanyssus gallinae Red mite parasite
Erysipelas bacteria
Fowl Cholera bacteria
Fowl pox virus
Fowl Typhoid bacteria
Gallid herpesvirus 1or Infectious Laryngotracheitis virus
Gapeworm Syngamus trachea worms
Infectious Bronchitis virus
Infectious Bursal Disease
Gumboro virus
Infectious Coryza bacteria
Lymphoid leukosis Avian leukosis virus
Marek's disease virus
Moniliasis Yeast Infection or Thrush fungi
Mycoplasmas bacteria-like organisms
Newcastle disease virus
Necrotic Enteritis bacteria
Prolapse Psittacosis bacteria
Pullorum Salmonella bacteria
Scaly leg parasites
Squamous cell carcinoma cancer
Tibial dyschondroplasia speed growing
Toxoplasmosis protozoal parasite
Ulcerative Enteritis bacteria
Unvaccinated (wild) populations are a health risk to commercial operations, wild bird populations including the wild turkey, and (as a vector for intestinal worms, influenza and coli form bacteria) to humans. Persons most affected include persons with weaker immune systems, such as the elderly, pregnant women, diabetics, patients receiving chemotherapy, and people who are infected with HIV.
I am glad to see them rounded up and glad that the self righteous ignoramus who interfered was cited.
According to Wikipedia (which is totally accurate!) Humans are susceptible to:
List of infectious diseases in Humans
Infectious Disease↓ Causative Agent↓
Acinetobacter infections Acinetobacter baumannii
Actinomycosis Actinomyces israelii, Actinomyces gerencseriae and Propionibacterium propionicus
African sleeping sickness (African trypanosomiasis) Trypanosoma brucei
AIDS (Acquired immune deficiency syndrome) HIV (Human immunodeficiency virus)
Amebiasis Entamoeba histolytica
Anaplasmosis Anaplasma genus
Anthrax Bacillus anthracis
Arcanobacterium haemolyticum infection Arcanobacterium haemolyticum
Argentine hemorrhagic fever Junin virus
Ascariasis Ascaris lumbricoides
Aspergillosis Aspergillus genus
Astrovirus infection Astroviridae family
Babesiosis Babesia genus
Bacillus cereus infection Bacillus cereus
Bacterial pneumonia multiple bacteria
Bacterial vaginosis (BV) multiple bacteria
Bacteroides infection Bacteroides genus
Balantidiasis Balantidium coli
Baylisascaris infection Baylisascaris genus
BK virus infection BK virus
Black piedra Piedraia hortae
Blastocystis hominis infection Blastocystis hominis
Blastomycosis Blastomyces dermatitidis
Bolivian hemorrhagic fever Machupo virus
Borrelia infection Borrelia genus
Botulism (and Infant botulism) Clostridium botulinum; Note: Botulism is not an infection by Clostridium botulinum but caused by the intake of botulinum toxin.
Brazilian hemorrhagic fever Sabia
Brucellosis Brucella genus
Burkholderia infection usually Burkholderia cepacia and other Burkholderia species
Calicivirus infection (Norovirus and Sapovirus) Caliciviridae family
Campylobacteriosis Campylobacter genus
Candidiasis (Moniliasis; Thrush) usually Candida albicans and other Candida species
Cat-scratch disease Bartonella henselae
Cellulitis usually Group A Streptococcus and Staphylococcus
Chagas Disease (American trypanosomiasis) Trypanosoma cruzi
Chancroid Haemophilus ducreyi
Chickenpox Varicella zoster virus (VZV)
Chlamydia Chlamydia trachomatis
Chlamydophila pneumoniae infection Chlamydophila pneumoniae
Cholera Vibrio cholerae
Chromoblastomycosis usually Fonsecaea pedrosoi
Clonorchiasis Clonorchis sinensis
Clostridium difficile infection Clostridium difficile
Coccidioidomycosis Coccidioides immitis and Coccidioides posadasii
Colorado tick fever (CTF) Colorado tick fever virus (CTFV)
Common cold (Acute viral rhinopharyngitis; Acute coryza) usually rhinoviruses and coronaviruses.
Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) CJD prion
Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever (CCHF) Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus
Cryptococcosis Cryptococcus neoformans
Cryptosporidiosis Cryptosporidium genus
Cutaneous larva migrans (CLM) usually Ancylostoma braziliense; multiple other parasites
Cyclosporiasis Cyclospora cayetanensis
Cysticercosis Taenia solium
Cytomegalovirus infection Cytomegalovirus
Dengue fever Dengue viruses (DEN-1, DEN-2, DEN-3 and DEN-4) â€" Flaviviruses
Dientamoebiasis Dientamoeba fragilis
Diphtheria Corynebacterium diphtheriae
Diphyllobothriasis Diphyllobothrium
Dracunculiasis Dracunculus medinensis
Ebola hemorrhagic fever Ebolavirus (EBOV)
Echinococcosis Echinococcus genus
Ehrlichiosis Ehrlichia genus
Enterobiasis (Pinworm infection) Enterobius vermicularis
Enterococcus infection Enterococcus genus
Enterovirus infection Enterovirus genus
Epidemic typhus Rickettsia prowazekii
Erythema infectiosum (Fifth disease) Parvovirus B19
Exanthem subitum Human herpesvirus 6 (HHV-6) and Human herpesvirus 7 (HHV-7)
Fasciolopsiasis Fasciolopsis buski
Fasciolosis Fasciola hepatica and Fasciola gigantica
Fatal familial insomnia (FFI) FFI prion
Filariasis Filarioidea superfamily
Food poisoning by Clostridium perfringens Clostridium perfringens
Free-living amebic infection multiple
Fusobacterium infection Fusobacterium genus
Gas gangrene (Clostridial myonecrosis) usually Clostridium perfringens; other Clostridium species
Geotrichosis Geotrichum candidum
Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker syndrome (GSS) GSS prion
Giardiasis Giardia intestinalis
Glanders Burkholderia mallei
Gnathostomiasis Gnathostoma spinigerum and Gnathostoma hispidum
Gonorrhea Neisseria gonorrhoeae
Granuloma inguinale (Donovanosis) Klebsiella granulomatis
Group A streptococcal infection Streptococcus pyogenes
Group B streptococcal infection Streptococcus agalactiae
Haemophilus influenzae infection Haemophilus influenzae
Hand, foot and mouth disease (HFMD) Enteroviruses, mainly Coxsackie A virus and Enterovirus 71 (EV71)
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) Sin Nombre virus
Helicobacter pylori infection Helicobacter pylori
Hemolytic-uremic syndrome (HUS) Escherichia coli O157:H7
Hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS) Bunyaviridae family
Hepatitis A Hepatitis A Virus
Hepatitis B Hepatitis B Virus
Hepatitis C Hepatitis C Virus
Hepatitis D Hepatitis D Virus
Hepatitis E Hepatitis E Virus
Herpes simplex Herpes simplex virus 1 and 2 (HSV-1 and HSV-2)
Histoplasmosis Histoplasma capsulatum
Hookworm infection Ancylostoma duodenale and Necator americanus
Human bocavirus infection Human bocavirus (HBoV)
Human ewingii ehrlichiosis Ehrlichia ewingii
Human granulocytic anaplasmosis (HGA) Anaplasma phagocytophilum
Human metapneumovirus infection Human metapneumovirus (hMPV)
Human monocytic ehrlichiosis Ehrlichia chaffeensis
Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection Human papillomavirus (HPV)
Human parainfluenza virus infection Human parainfluenza viruses (HPIV)
Hymenolepiasis Hymenolepis nana and Hymenolepis diminuta
Epstein-Barr Virus Infectious Mononucleosis (Mono) Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV)
Influenza (flu) Orthomyxoviridae family
Isosporiasis Isospora belli
Kawasaki disease unknown; evidence supports that it is infectious
Keratitis multiple
Kingella kingae infection Kingella kingae
Kuru Kuru prion
Lassa fever Lassa virus
Legionellosis (Legionnaires' disease) Legionella pneumophila
Legionellosis (Pontiac fever) Legionella pneumophila
Leishmaniasis Leishmania genus
Leprosy Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis
Leptospirosis Leptospira genus
Listeriosis Listeria monocytogenes
Lyme disease (Lyme borreliosis) usually Borrelia burgdorferi and other Borrelia species
Lymphatic filariasis (Elephantiasis) Wuchereria bancrofti and Brugia malayi
Lymphocytic choriomeningitis Lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus (LCMV)
Malaria Plasmodium genus
Marburg hemorrhagic fever (MHF) Marburg virus
Measles Measles virus
Melioidosis (Whitmore's disease) Burkholderia pseudomallei
Meningitis multiple
Meningococcal disease Neisseria meningitidis
Metagonimiasis usually Metagonimus yokagawai
Microsporidiosis Microsporidia phylum
Molluscum contagiosum (MC) Molluscum contagiosum virus (MCV)
Mumps Mumps virus
Murine typhus (Endemic typhus) Rickettsia typhi
Mycoplasma pneumonia Mycoplasma pneumoniae
Mycetoma numerous species of bacteria (Actinomycetoma) and fungi (Eumycetoma)
Myiasis parasitic dipterous fly larvae
Neonatal conjunctivitis (Ophthalmia neonatorum) most commonly Chlamydia trachomatis and Neisseria gonorrhoeae
(New) Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD, nvCJD) vCJD prion
Nocardiosis usually Nocardia asteroides and other Nocardia species
Onchocerciasis (River blindness) Onchocerca volvulus
Paracoccidioidomycosis (South American blastomycosis) Paracoccidioides brasiliensis
Paragonimiasis usually Paragonimus westermani and other Paragonimus species
Pasteurellosis Pasteurella genus
Pediculosis capitis (Head lice) Pediculus humanus capitis
Pediculosis corporis (Body lice) Onchocerca volvulus
Pediculosis pubis (Pubic lice, Crab lice) Phthirus pubis
Pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) multiple
Pertussis (Whooping cough) Bordetella pertussis
Plague Yersinia pestis
Pneumococcal infection Streptococcus pneumoniae
Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) Pneumocystis jirovecii
Pneumonia multiple
Poliomyelitis Poliovirus
Prevotella infection Prevotella genus
Primary amoebic meningoencephalitis (PAM) usually Naegleria fowleri
Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy JC virus
Psittacosis Chlamydophila psittaci
Q fever Coxiella burnetii
Rabies Rabies virus
Rat-bite fever Streptobacillus moniliformis and Spirillum minus
Respiratory syncytial virus infection Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)
Rhinosporidiosis Rhinosporidium seeberi
Rhinovirus infection Rhinovirus
Rickettsial infection Rickettsia genus
Rickettsialpox Rickettsia akari
Rift Valley fever (RVF) Rift Valley fever virus
Rocky mountain spotted fever (RMSF) Rickettsia rickettsii
Rotavirus infection Rotavirus
Rubella Rubella virus
Salmonellosis Salmonella genus
SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) SARS coronavirus
Scabies Sarcoptes scabiei
Schistosomiasis Schistosoma genus
Sepsis multiple
Shigellosis (Bacillary dysentery) Shigella genus
Shingles (Herpes zoster) Varicella zoster virus (VZV)
Smallpox (Variola) Variola major or Variola minor
Sporotrichosis Sporothrix schenckii
Staphylococcal food poisoning Staphylococcus genus
Staphylococcal infection Staphylococcus genus
Strongyloidiasis Strongyloides stercoralis
Syphilis Treponema pallidum
Taeniasis Taenia genus
Tetanus (Lockjaw) Clostridium tetani
Tinea barbae (Barber's itch) usually Trichophyton genus
Tinea capitis (Ringworm of the Scalp) usually Trichophyton tonsurans
Tinea corporis (Ringworm of the Body) usually Trichophyton genus
Tinea cruris (Jock itch) usually Epidermophyton floccosum, Trichophyton rubrum, and Trichophyton mentagrophytes
Tinea manuum (Ringworm of the Hand) Trichophyton rubrum
Tinea nigra usually Hortaea werneckii
Tinea pedis (Athlete’s foot) usually Trichophyton genus
Tinea unguium (Onychomycosis) usually Trichophyton genus
Tinea versicolor (Pityriasis versicolor) Malassezia genus
Toxocariasis (Ocular Larva Migrans (OLM)) Toxocara canis or Toxocara cati
Toxocariasis (Visceral Larva Migrans (VLM)) Toxocara canis or Toxocara cati
Toxoplasmosis Toxoplasma gondii
Trichinellosis Trichinella spiralis
Trichomoniasis Trichomonas vaginalis
Trichuriasis (Whipworm infection) Trichuris trichiura
Tuberculosis usually Mycobacterium tuberculosis
Tularemia Francisella tularensis
Ureaplasma urealyticum infection Ureaplasma urealyticum
Venezuelan equine encephalitis Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus
Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever Guanarito virus
Viral pneumonia multiple viruses
West Nile Fever West Nile virus
White piedra (Tinea blanca) Trichosporon beigelii
Yersinia pseudotuberculosis infection Yersinia pseudotuberculosis
Yersiniosis Yersinia enterocolitica
Yellow fever Yellow fever virus
Zygomycosis Mucorales order (Mucormycosis) and Entomophthorales order (Entomophthoramycosis)
Chickens are the least of my worries.
Quote from: tpot on July 11, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
Hmmm....thanks for the Sunday morning chuch surmon JC.........I generally find that those that do the most "preachin" are the ones most in need of it..............;-)
+1
Chickens are susceptible to these diseases when kept in close close confinement like commercial operations do. Birds allowed to free range, which is what the chickens in the park are doing, rarely have these diseases. Chickens were not meant to be part of an industrial factory-like system such has been set up. Disease develops and spreads terrible in those situations.
My favorite chicken... :)
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Dogs and homeless love free range chicken.
Quote from: tpot on July 11, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
I generally find that those that do the most "preachin" are the ones most in need of it..............;-)
+2
Chickens eat termites and leave behind eggs. A win-win situation if you ask me.
Jacksonville is not the only city in the foul clutches of bird-hating madness. Via Gawker:
QuoteThe Agriculture Department rounded up 400 Canada geese in Brooklyn's Prospect Park last week and killed them so they'd stop flying into jet engines. One Brooklyn resident said it looked like the geese had "been Photoshopped out."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13geese.html?_r=1
Quote from: sheclown on July 12, 2010, 03:22:45 PM
Chickens eat termites and leave behind eggs. A win-win situation if you ask me.
I didn't know that chickens could burrow underground! :o
Quote from: sheclown on July 12, 2010, 03:22:45 PM
Chickens eat termites and leave behind eggs. A win-win situation if you ask me.
Now all I need to do is figure out how to get the chickens into my walls.
Quote from: danno on July 13, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: sheclown on July 12, 2010, 03:22:45 PM
Chickens eat termites and leave behind eggs. A win-win situation if you ask me.
Now all I need to do is figure out how to get the chickens into my walls.
LOL
I'm sure there is a termite or two in the crawl space. Plus, the police would never find them there. Maxx! Hide the chickens under houses!!
Are you all INSANE!!! I happen to live at the gated residence shown in these photos and the roosters are a constant nuisance at best. I'm a grad student who works at night and attempts to sleep and study during the day, which I don't get much of because these roosters are up crowing from 5am to 5pm ALL DAY, EVERY DAY!!!
You are all so self righteous talking about the chickens and their rights, I'm sure you wouldn't feel the same if they disrupted your life like they do ours. My neighbors and I, you know those actually affected by the roosters, speak regularly about the annoyances of the roosters, and if you want to know why the city is rounding them up it's because we keep filling out animal control complaints. The photos of this gated community has a condo association, which means that I have to pay property taxes in addition to association fees, and right now I don't feel as though I'm getting my money's worth. My claim was the reason the city came on July 11th and I'll continue to be that reason in the future.
For one it's ILLEGAL for these animals to roam downtown in an urban area...if you want to live near roosters, move out to the country. I just can't believe that you all are defending this Max guy. If you asked me he should have been arrested in addition to being fined. This isn't a cause, they are roosters. What about the livelihood of the people who pay property taxes out here, what about my rights??
I also have a 7yr old and while leaving the house one morning for school she opened the door and guess what was waiting on here, a rooster that squawked at her and nearly scared her to death. This is just all so silly, you people and your animal rights babble. I write this now upset b/c again I have been awakened from my sleep on at 6:50am on a Sunday morning thanks to your blessed roosters. I actually enjoy going out of town b/c I'm able to sleep in. It has also affected my daughter. I received a note from her teacher saying that she was falling asleep in class, now she goes to bed at 8:30 but she's up some mornings at 4am-5:30am trying to go back to sleep until she actually has to get up at 7:30...that would throw any adult off schedule, so you can imagine the toll it has on a child.
Again, I am disappointed in the nature in which this article was discussed. This affects our lives on a serious level and it should be addressed as such. I don't hate birds, I don't hate roosters or chickens, but having them roam aimlessly where I pay to eat, sleep and live is not what I signed up for.
Since we are talking about the mass murder of a species, which are afterall historical in this neighborhood, I would suggest you move. Those chickens and roosters were here long before the buildings you live in were, and should remain. I would not Move in next to a pig farm and then systematically kill off all the pigs! I am glad you posted as now we know where a lot of the complaints are coming from an this can be addressed!
SAVE OUR SPRINGFIELD CHIKCENS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although I feel badly for your daughter, but had she not been subjected to your outward hatred of these wild birds, she wouldn't have been so traumatized by them. Most children sleep rather soundly, so I'm surprised that your daughter hasn't grown accustomed to hearing the roosters in the morning...kind of like hearing that really loud train horn blowing...so should the trains be removed? There's of course, the dogs barking or the sounds of traffic. Oh and I hear the mocking birds (you know, our state bird) singing, let's add them to the list for the city to capture and kill off.
Self righteous....we've been called worse... ::)
Glad you don't live next to a school or playground...with all those children playing so darned loud :o
Uptown that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard...now I would understand if I moved next to a farm and complained about the roosters, but I live in the downtown area of large city, and had I known we would have not moved here. Also this was not an issue when I purchased my townhome 3 years ago, these roosters didn't become an issue until January of this year.
And my daughter does sleep soundly until a rooster plants itself on my fence beneath her window and starts crowing, and there's this new one that actually sounds like it's screaming. I'm sorry but there is no justification for this. I don't live on a farm and again it's against the law for these roosters to roam here.
Springfielder, my daughter complains about the roosters waking her up, she's a child and most children are afraid of animals that move fast and scream at them. She's also afraid of dogs and I never speak ill of them, so get off it. We are not talking about a whistle that blows at 7am for a minute(which we do sleep through on most days) or the sounds of mocking birds, which are in the trees outside our house....we are talking about the constant crowing of not one but four roosters all morning and all day long, every single day. Roosters that sit on our cars, sit in the trees and poop on our cars, this is a nuisance to the residents in the gated community. When your beloved roosters disappear during the day you can find them walking around our small community.
I am sure that if you all were affected the way we are at Oak Park Villas you'd be singing another tune.
Again, I live in the CITY of Jacksonville and these are my rights. Also let me note that I love my community because of the nature feel of it. I love the trees and the lakes, I don't even mind the roosters roaming to be honest, it's the nonstop crowing all day every day. I don't feel that I should be forced out of my home due to roosters, that's what animal control is for.
Springfielder, I wouldn't move next to a school or a playground if I had a problem with the sound of children playing.
We are talking about a few roosters here and I was not aware that they were being killed, only being moved. Either way, they have to go and the residents here will continue to complain until they are ALL gone. If you want roosters move to the country.
Really? Stupid? You must not have investigated your new "home" very well then, those roosters have been here a long time! Infact there used to be a hatchery right down the street from the "villas". But back to the chickens, chicken poop is great fertilizer, and about the same as the bird poop I have on my car from the birds nesting in the trees around my house, that also love to start singing throughout the day and all night long- should we kill all of them too? Start logging complaints about the woodpeckers, morning doves, egrets, and hawks? Those chickens and roosters were here long before you moved in or me for that matter- if you have some freakish aversion to them you should of moved elsewhere. Again, why move next to a pig farm and kill off the pigs?
BTW, does anyone have the scoop on these non-contributing structures? Did we loose any historic structures for these? If so how truly sad, another great example of why we need to protect what we have -including our chickens and roosters!!!!
Perhaps the "villas"should put up a different fence if they do not like the roosters and chickens? Again those chickens and roosters have been here for a LONG time, they did not just show up a year ago, or two, or ten!
You're absolutely right, Uptowngirl and Stephen....these chickens and roosters have been residents of this neighborhood for many, many years...I've been here over 12 and they were here before then.
Localresident, I guess it's the lack of sleep that has made it difficult to comprehend the comparison people (including myself) have made, when we said about the pig farm or the other wild life that makes sounds (some quite loud) the trains and the children playing....all normal sounds of the day, here in the neighborhood. It's part of who we are and part of makes this neighborhood not only special, but unique.
It's the mentality of which you've expressed that keeps those in the little gated community, not part of our the family and caring neighborhood of Springfield....you know, the ones that participate in community events, who appreciate and work to preserve our historic neighborhood, instead of living in a separated and uninviting gated section. As Uptowngirl suggested, why not have your landlord/owner put up some chicken wire along the fence to keep these non-flying, horrors of Springfield from being in your community yard.
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Roaming chickens have been a quaint feature in Springfield for as long as I have been around (12 years) and no doubt here long before.
chickens eat termites, or so I've been told. Not that we have a problem with that in Springfield
Funny, I grew up in Springfield....down the street from here, this whole rooster thing was never a problem when I was a kid or young adult.
What I find interesting about you alls statement is that you continue to point out the roosters were here first. Well how would you feel if a cow showed up and began roaming around and did damage to your property, or a horse, or a pig(since you love this analogy so much)...surely they were here before your glorious houses were built...where do we draw the line???
Also birds singing is hugely different than roosters crowing...let me give you an analogy since you all love them so much...the roosters crowing and screaming below our windows are like an alarm clock that we didn't set and can't turn off. If this were happening in your house would you move or would you get rid of the clock?? Would you invest in ultrasonic ear plugs(aka a chicken fence) or would you just get rid of the damn clock??
And I'm sorry but there is nothing "natural" about a rooster roaming around the downtown area of any major metro city.
At the end of the day the roosters don't pay property taxes...I do, and I will continue to put my tax dollars(especially in light of the increase) to work. Sleep deprivation behind a rooster is just plain silly, and the fact that you all would justify it is juvenile. But hey, you work on saving your chickens and I'll work on my sanity...luckily my sanity is supported by the law.
Quote from: Springfielder on October 03, 2010, 09:50:50 AM
It's the mentality of which you've expressed that keeps those in the little gated community, not part of our the family and caring neighborhood of Springfield....you know, the ones that participate in community events, who appreciate and work to preserve our historic neighborhood, instead of living in a separated and uninviting gated section. As Uptowngirl suggested, why not have your landlord/owner put up some chicken wire along the fence to keep these non-flying, horrors of Springfield from being in your community yard.
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For one I'm an owner, and I do participate. I've actually been to several First Friday and Mothers of Springfield events...does that now make my complaints any more valid?? I love Springfield...I could have moved anywhere but I chose I stay near where I grew up. The great thing about this country is that we can disagree freely, so see this as my disagreeing with your viewpoints. Again, if this were outside of your window 12 hours a day I'm sure you all would feel differently.
Enjoy your Sunday.
There was a time, actually not that many decades ago, that my relatives in Ohio had enough to eat because they had chickens. And other neighbors had other livestock, all in a vibrant urban core area. I suspect that Springfield was not much different. I personally still think the jury is still out on whether those days are coming back or not.
The chickens we are talking about here have been around for many decades. Within the last ten years, residents kept chickens for the eggs and fresh, well, chickens. It is often a few who do not take proper care that causes laws like no chickens in the urban areas. But this is bit different and these wild chickens certainly have the right to be here.
At the same time, I understand the issue Local resident is bringing up, which they certainly have that right to bring up. I am still trying to deal with a dog issue. This is an almost hourly, 24 hours a day thing, not just a early morning thing. It has been a year or more and the last resort is going to be done through the city. Sometimes you just have to. But it is one dog of many that is an issue, not all of them. The same is likely true with the roosters. One is the issue, the rest are OK and this idea is possibly proved out as the roosters have been here for many years and yet it just became a problem.
So, perhaps the right thing to do it figure out the problem one and move him. The rest of the chickens will then go back to normal and Localresident gets what they need done and the rest of the community does too. Don't try for ALL the chickens for there will be, as you can see, a fight, but one problem rooster moved might be the answer.
If someone is getting this worked up over a silly stray chicken, then odds are they've got other issues going on.
Chris you are right!
"Legend" has it the chickens /roosters are here due to some escapee's from the old hatchery behind Confederate. It is a GREAT story, even if inaccurate (some claim this cannot be), but in any case chickens don't fly so they are here "locally". (BTW I find it hard to believe they are pooping on cars? How in the heck are they getting up there??? ) Along with the "terror" stories (again these are urban chickens and they RUN from humans) chicken pooping on my car is just that, a story....I think the real issue is not the chickens and roosters at all.
I have a fan...and this isn't a distant noise that can easily be blocked out, it's a rooster perched beneath my window crowing every 2 minutes, no sound machine is going to block it out.
Also there isn't just one rooster, there are 4 roosters that crow all during the day...again this issue didn't start until January, so I don't know what happened before that but this is now an issue for me.
And I don't have a problem with people keeping chickens and roosters in their back yards for whatever reason they see fit...my problem is them being in my back yard which I have a right to complain about.
And Chris my life is great despite this issue that affects my sleep...which is kind of a big deal, and it's not a chicken, a chicken I could ignore, it's several screaming screeching roosters, which is a big difference my friend.
Stephen it that were the case this post wouldn't exist, my tax dollars brought out 12 men in 4 trucks if I'm not mistaken...so again, I'll keep filing the complaints until the issue is resolved. ;-)
Local you are incorrect - OUR tax dollars brought out 12 men and 4 trucks which is not very fiscally responsible for a couple of people complaining, when many WANT the chickens to stay. It is OUR tax dollars too. Now since you are admitting you wanted, no needed all the chickens and roosters caught and killed I think it agreeable the city send you a bill directly for the same. Seems like a fair trade to me.
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 12:39:36 PM
Chris you are right!
"Legend" has it the chickens /roosters are here due to some escapee's from the old hatchery behind Confederate. It is a GREAT story, even if inaccurate (some claim this cannot be), but in any case chickens don't fly so they are here "locally". (BTW I find it hard to believe they are pooping on cars? How in the heck are they getting up there??? ) Along with the "terror" stories (again these are urban chickens and they RUN from humans) chicken pooping on my car is just that, a story....I think the real issue is not the chickens and roosters at all.
Funny "story"...so I'm taking an online quiz and I hear a rooster, but it sounds closer than usual. I look out the window and I see nothing...but it's still crowing...I open the front door and I see nothing, and then I look up and wouldn't you know it, it's in the tree...how did it get up there I have NO clue, but it was there in the tree above my car. So believe what you wish, these issues are real...and I'm entitled to a peace and quiet when I'm in my home. I'm entitled to being able to sleep past 6am on weekends. Why must be a bird hating manic depressive to want these simple pleasures??? I mean really folks...
Yup I pegged it alright. Power and control issues.
But I'm glad you're thrilled about wasting enough tax dollars to pay for 12 public employees and 4 service trucks to run around chasing a handful of stray chickens. Great use of public funds in the middle of a recession. Though I'm not sure what's funnier, that anyone would actually do that, or that after all that effort, the chickens won that chess match and are still running around while you're still complaining.
Everyone else likes them. What's next? You going to have the historic steam whistle shut down too? Going to have the streets closed so traffic doesn't bother you? Going to move next door to an airport and then demand the planes leave?
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
Local you are incorrect - OUR tax dollars brought out 12 men and 4 trucks which is not very fiscally responsible for a couple of people complaining, when many WANT the chickens to stay. It is OUR tax dollars too. Now since you are admitting you wanted, no needed all the chickens and roosters caught and killed I think it agreeable the city send you a bill directly for the same. Seems like a fair trade to me.
Now I am sure that MY tax dollars pay for plenty of things that I don't benefit from...that's how local government works.
As the author of this post stated, only a third of the community is in favor of these birds roaming free...what about the two thirds that would prefer them gone...does their opinion not matter b/c they're not posting on this board? If beating up on me makes you feel better then fine...go ahead.
My filing a complaint was the right thing to do. I've had neighbors threaten to go out and buy pellet guns to shoot them...neighbors who are DIRECTLY affected by them. Again this is a noise issue for me, if they weren't clucking and cawing all hours of the day I wouldn't have an issue...until then I do.
Again beat up me...who cares, I have a Jags game to attend.
eat 'em, I hear they are very tasty.
But leave the rest alone.
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
Local you are incorrect - OUR tax dollars brought out 12 men and 4 trucks which is not very fiscally responsible for a couple of people complaining, when many WANT the chickens to stay. It is OUR tax dollars too. Now since you are admitting you wanted, no needed all the chickens and roosters caught and killed I think it agreeable the city send you a bill directly for the same. Seems like a fair trade to me.
Now I am sure that MY tax dollars pay for plenty of things that I don't benefit from...that's how local government works.
As the author of this post stated, only a third of the community is in favor of these birds roaming free...what about the two thirds that would prefer them gone...does their opinion not matter b/c they're not posting on this board? If beating up on me makes you feel better then fine...go ahead.
My filing a complaint was the right thing to do. I've had neighbors threaten to go out and buy pellet guns to shoot them...neighbors who are DIRECTLY affected by them. Again this is a noise issue for me, if they weren't clucking and cawing all hours of the day I wouldn't have an issue...until then I do.
Again beat up me...who cares, I have a Jags game to attend.
What a waste.
Assuming an average wage of $15/hr (probably pretty close for unionized City employees) and multiplying that by the 4-5 hours I hear they were over there, your stupid complaining about 4 chickens cost us taxpayers $980, plus whatever the cost of four work trucks comes to. At a minimum, this asinine issue cost the city a thousand dollars in the middle of a recession.
And all you had to do is chase the stupid chickens off to another place. How hard is it to pick up a hose and squirt a bird so it goes somewhere else? This whole thing is preposterous, I hope you're proud of yourself.
People hide them until the chickens killers leave the hood, we will never let anyone get rid of the chickens ...
viva la chickens!!!!!
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Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
Local you are incorrect - OUR tax dollars brought out 12 men and 4 trucks which is not very fiscally responsible for a couple of people complaining, when many WANT the chickens to stay. It is OUR tax dollars too. Now since you are admitting you wanted, no needed all the chickens and roosters caught and killed I think it agreeable the city send you a bill directly for the same. Seems like a fair trade to me.
Now I am sure that MY tax dollars pay for plenty of things that I don't benefit from...that's how local government works.
As the author of this post stated, only a third of the community is in favor of these birds roaming free...what about the two thirds that would prefer them gone...does their opinion not matter b/c they're not posting on this board? If beating up on me makes you feel better then fine...go ahead.
My filing a complaint was the right thing to do. I've had neighbors threaten to go out and buy pellet guns to shoot them...neighbors who are DIRECTLY affected by them. Again this is a noise issue for me, if they weren't clucking and cawing all hours of the day I wouldn't have an issue...until then I do.
Again beat up me...who cares, I have a Jags game to attend.
What a waste.
Assuming an average wage of $15/hr (probably pretty close for unionized City employees) and multiplying that by the 4-5 hours I hear they were over there, your stupid complaining about 4 chickens cost us taxpayers $980, plus whatever the cost of four work trucks comes to. At a minimum, this asinine issue cost the city a thousand dollars in the middle of a recession.
And all you had to do is chase the stupid chickens off to another place. How hard is it to pick up a hose and squirt a bird so it goes somewhere else? This whole thing is preposterous, I hope you're proud of yourself.
They come back...they ALWAYS come back. You don't think I've tried spraying them with water, tossing a stick at them or even running them away from my porch, but must I do this EVERY morning at 5/6am. I really can't believe how insensitive you all are being.
And it's NOT a chicken...I really don't think you all understand. If only I could plant a ROOSTER that screams(I swear it sounds like it's being beaten) outside of your window every morning and all day for a month...we'll see how sympathetic you all are to the situation then.
Quote from: stephendare on October 03, 2010, 01:21:03 PM
I understand.
Roosters (four of them) would be a problem to anyone. The disconnect is extending the four roosters to a MacGillicuddy roundup of all their avian cousins as well.
How to solve the dilemna of the Rooster 4?
have you tried the bleach?
I'd have to put bleach everywhere...but I haven't tried it. My only reserve with that is that I have a 7yr old that plays in the backyard area with our neighbor's children...putting bleach down everywhere wouldn't be safe for the kids and it would kill our grass.
Maybe it's screaming bloody murder of it's family members, knowing that you're the reason they were taken and killed. As for it getting up in the tree, does this not say something that it can some how get up into the tree about your car? Sounds like there's a mutual personal vendetta issue taking place.
Since this gang of hoodlum roosters seem to be hanging out and terrorizing you, have you considered renting one of those cages from animal control to catch them, and relocate them? Oh wait, why be reasonable, when you can call have 12 city employees and 4 trucks come out to try and round them up for slaughtering.
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Yep why bother when the city will do the work for me. ;D
I appreciate you wasting my tax dollars....oh, and we'll keep working to save them
No problem, my pleasure.
Why do you think the homeless come from around the country?...2 bottles of wine (one for the Chicken Chase ..one for the Marinade)
an overturned Winn Dixie shopping cart, a hubcap and a couple Springfield Chickens and some Confederate Park wild mushrooms...
MMM... Coq Au Vin!! ;D
Let's face it....
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/pa1a18_fried_chicken_sm-1.jpg)
...we all have chicken blood on our hands.
That being said,
many of us feel having chickens running around on Hubbard Street is as important a part of Springfield culture as shaky Barbara or crawling Jimmy. It may not work in other parts of Jacksonville, but, in Springfield, it operates as comic relief.
Screw with the chickens and you'll ruffle some feathers.
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 04:49:20 PM
No problem, my pleasure.
You ought to join spar if you're not already a member. You'd fit right in.
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
Let's face it....
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/pa1a18_fried_chicken_sm-1.jpg)
...we all have chicken blood on our hands.
That being said,
many of us feel having chickens running around on Hubbard Street is as important a part of Springfield culture as shaky Barbara or crawling Jimmy. It may not work in other parts of Jacksonville, but, in Springfield, it operates as
comic relief.
Screw with the chickens and you'll ruffle some feathers.
Funny, I don't eat chicken...so I guess my blood is new blood. I got some catching up to do. The roosters are going. Period.
In other news...how bout' them JAGS!!!!
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
Let's face it....
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/pa1a18_fried_chicken_sm-1.jpg)
...we all have chicken blood on our hands.
That being said,
many of us feel having chickens running around on Hubbard Street is as important a part of Springfield culture as shaky Barbara or crawling Jimmy. It may not work in other parts of Jacksonville, but, in Springfield, it operates as
comic relief.
Screw with the chickens and you'll ruffle some feathers.
Funny, I don't eat chicken...so I guess my blood is new blood. I got some catching up to do. The roosters are going. Period.
I warned all you guys that anybody who gets that upset over a silly stray chicken had psychological problems.
Don't say I didn't warn you all!
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
In other news...how bout' them JAGS!!!!
I'm likin the jags this year actually!
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
Let's face it....
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/pa1a18_fried_chicken_sm-1.jpg)
...we all have chicken blood on our hands.
That being said,
many of us feel having chickens running around on Hubbard Street is as important a part of Springfield culture as shaky Barbara or crawling Jimmy. It may not work in other parts of Jacksonville, but, in Springfield, it operates as
comic relief.
Screw with the chickens and you'll ruffle some feathers.
Funny, I don't eat chicken...so I guess my blood is new blood. I got some catching up to do. The roosters are going. Period.
I warned all you guys that anybody who gets that upset over a silly stray chicken had psychological problems.
Don't say I didn't warn you all!
It's not A chicken, it's 4 roosters...big difference...and yes after 9 months of the noise it's safe to say that I'm pretty upset...but hey, the city will take care of that.
The roosters will be here forever.
COJ is no match for them.
Get some ear plugs.
(& P.S. Roosters are indeed chickens, ask any hen)
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
In other news...how bout' them JAGS!!!!
I'm likin the jags this year actually!
Ahhh finally something we agree on.
"People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society." -Vince Lombardi
I don't have some vendetta against birds, or chickens, or even roosters, but they are impeding on the right I have to a peaceful existence. I just want them out of my yard...any ideas you guys have that short of the city that will give me this existence I'm open to it. *written as a rooster crows in the parking lot, working late it seems*
Is your yard fenced?
Do you have a dog?
No one EVER moves to Springfield expecting to "have a peaceful existence" .
excitement
entertainment of all sorts
drama & melodrama
comedy (and dark comedy)
but peace???
LOL
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 06:16:08 PM
No one EVER moves to Springfield expecting to "have a peaceful existence" .
excitement
entertainment of all sorts
drama & melodrama
comedy (and dark comedy)
but peace???
LOL
No dog, just the gate...we're not allowed to add any other fences other than those provided on the front of our townhomes.
And I don't mind the occasional drama...the crowing though, it's a bit much.
If a couple of us come get the damn rooster and relocate them for you, will that be enough to satisfy you from calling COJ to have chickens who've been here 100 years eradicated? I have a large fish net sheclown, should do the trick.
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 05:52:08 PM
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
Let's face it....
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/pa1a18_fried_chicken_sm-1.jpg)
...we all have chicken blood on our hands.
That being said,
many of us feel having chickens running around on Hubbard Street is as important a part of Springfield culture as shaky Barbara or crawling Jimmy. It may not work in other parts of Jacksonville, but, in Springfield, it operates as
comic relief.
Screw with the chickens and you'll ruffle some feathers.
Funny, I don't eat chicken...so I guess my blood is new blood. I got some catching up to do. The roosters are going. Period.
I warned all you guys that anybody who gets that upset over a silly stray chicken had psychological problems.
Don't say I didn't warn you all!
It's not A chicken, it's 4 roosters...big difference...and yes after 9 months of the noise it's safe to say that I'm pretty upset...but hey, the city will take care of that.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 06:28:38 PM
If a couple of us come get the damn rooster and relocate them for you, will that be enough to satisfy you from calling COJ to have chickens who've been here 100 years eradicated? I have a large fish net sheclown, should do the trick.
Abso-freaking-lutely!!! I don't want them killed, I just want them moved. I'll even let you in the gate...any day will work, they're here 7 days a week, 11 hours a day.
yippy kai yay
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 06:28:38 PM
If a couple of us come get the damn rooster and relocate them for you, will that be enough to satisfy you from calling COJ to have chickens who've been here 100 years eradicated? I have a large fish net sheclown, should do the trick.
Abso-freaking-lutely!!! I don't want them killed, I just want them moved. I'll even let you in the gate...any day will work, they're here 7 days a week, 11 hours a day.
I will make a couple calls tomorrow, I'm sure I know a couple people who will help. You'll have to point out which ones are the problem birds for us. Pm me your phone number. We'll move the silly things across 8th or maybe down to the park and I doubt it will come back.
I want in on this. I see a video clip. I'll bring some corn.
The number has been sent...anxiously awaiting this relocation. I was actually going to video record the crowing in the morning so you all could get a feel for what I was saying.
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 07:30:18 PM
I want in on this. I see a video clip. I'll bring some corn.
I'll call you in the morning. I have a large fish net, if you or someone has a canvas sack or some kind of cage that'd make things easier.
Quote from: localresident on October 03, 2010, 07:36:56 PM
The number has been sent...anxiously awaiting this relocation. I was actually going to video record the crowing in the morning so you all could get a feel for what I was saying.
I believe you. Actually I'm sorry for snapping at you earlier, if it's really a problem then let's fix it. I guess after SPAR I get frustrated when everyones first reaction is calling COJ. Historically, the way COJ has reacted to springfield, it always turns out to be like using an elephant gun instead of a fly swatter.
Your rooster will get taken care of this week, we'll relocate it.
Guess it's no secret where I stand on this! Wonder if this person also calls to complain about The Pearl's kareoke night that runs into the wee hours? Probably not since this person works nights. So they are only concerned with the noises that interfere with THEIR schedule. We did our due diligence and knew about both and accepted them as a part of the territory. No offense to The Pearl, but the chickens make better music.
Springfield Poultry Rescue......How Cool !!!!!!!!!! :P
Quote from: Springfield Chicken on October 03, 2010, 08:09:00 PM
Guess it's no secret where I stand on this! Wonder if this person also calls to complain about The Pearl's kareoke night that runs into the wee hours? Probably not since this person works nights. So they are only concerned with the noises that interfere with THEIR schedule. We did our due diligence and knew about both and accepted them as a part of the territory. No offense to The Pearl, but the chickens make better music.
I don't work weekends and I can't hear the music from the Pearl. But yes you are right, why would call about something that I have no knowledge of???
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 03, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 07:30:18 PM
I want in on this. I see a video clip. I'll bring some corn.
I'll call you in the morning. I have a large fish net, if you or someone has a canvas sack or some kind of cage that'd make things easier.
I don't but I may be able to find one...and it's not just one rooster...there are always 3 and sometimes 4.
I have a hard sided kennel that would work I think.
We need your net, some leather gloves and some rope and maybe pillow cases. I used to raise chickens, (hippie mom raised kids in country drank goats milk made jam) but I admit I never did have to catch a rooster -- I did watch an Amish man hypnotize a couple (of roosters, that is) once, then we tied them up and put them in the trunk. It is a long story that doesn't end well, but the roosters did live.
I do have my Mary Poppin's van.
You just have to watch out for their spurs.
Call me and we'll work out the details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQMCAFOK2Ws
In the meantime, local, put out corn somewhere (other than your yard) and try to train them to go there. They are congregating by your window because there is some benefit to doing so. Make it more appealing to go elsewhere.
Be the chicken. oommm...
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 08:58:27 PM
I have a hard sided kennel that would work I think.
I can't even get my cat in the kennel when he's pissed. But it is worth a try.
OMG, after 7 pages of, well you know, CRAP, yippee! A solution that saves the Roosters! Finally! Thank you! Relocation is the right thing to do, thanks to those involved. :)
Avoid Hawaii. They are everywhere.
I'd hate to see the chickens and/or roosters go, but I'd rather they be relocated by us than the chicken police. As a daily observer of their habits, if one of you who want to do the relocation will call me, I have a couple of good suggestions I predict will work.
Quote from: sheclown on October 03, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on October 03, 2010, 08:58:27 PM
I have a hard sided kennel that would work I think.
I can't even get my cat in the kennel when he's pissed. But it is worth a try.
I have lots of pillow cases too!
You have got to play banjo music during the roundup..I heard it calms them. ;)
Maybe stringing soft bird netting between a few trees can at least let you herd them into a pen of sorts...(could they tear that? would they?)
Be careful of the spurs!
2 things:
I would feel horrible about just dumping them off on someone else's front porch, they are really loud and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. There are different ads on craigslists of local farms in the area that take urban roosters and use them for farm breeding.
Today they kind of stayed away, I heard them in the distance earlier than usual around 4:15am, but that's because I was up studying for a midterm today. But I can happily say that when I did go to sleep around 6am they never made to my window and they kind of disappeared altogether around 9am and haven't been back since. I think it's rooster karma ;D...either that or it's too chilly outside to be openly roaming the streets.
They really did stay in and around Confederate park with minimal forays into the neighborhood until the city came out to round them up and slaughter them the first time around. After that we all started seeing them deeper in the neighborhood. Not sure if that scared them, they found better feeding grounds and less competetion, or they started nesting and just never went back :-(
Does the park attract vagrants? Hungry homeless + free range chickens = dinner
Free range dogs too love chicken in a non-friendly way.
When the vacant lot next to us got cut back a couple weeks agao we saw the chickens there more frequently. They do tend to begin the day nearer the condos but I can sleep through anything so you could put them in my bedroom and I'd be fine.
The feral cats don't seem to phase them and I've seen them lying around near each other and neither side seems to mind. If we can find a way to make the rooster sleep in a bit longer in the morning or keep his opinions to himself then everyone is okay. I just don't know how to reason with a chicken.
Quote from: nvrenuf on October 03, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Avoid Hawaii. They are everywhere.
Key West as well. Count me as another who misses the downtown roosters. They always made me smile!
you've got a fairly large master bedroom closet...hummm...perhaps we could rip out that carpet and set up some cages?
Quote from: Springfield Chicken on October 04, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
When the vacant lot next to us got cut back a couple weeks agao we saw the chickens there more frequently. They do tend to begin the day nearer the condos but I can sleep through anything so you could put them in my bedroom and I'd be fine.
The feral cats don't seem to phase them and I've seen them lying around near each other and neither side seems to mind. If we can find a way to make the rooster sleep in a bit longer in the morning or keep his opinions to himself then everyone is okay. I just don't know how to reason with a chicken.
you've got a fairly large master bedroom closet...hummm...perhaps we could rip out that carpet and set up some cages?
Dear Local Resident,
I live nearby and love the chickens. But last night we had the windows open and I've now been listening to that rooster for at least 2 hours. We had to close the windows. Since it sounds like he's hanging out by your place, I can imagine that his rants are disturbing at best.
If we can avoid calling animal control and find a place to release him on some farm where he can crow to his heart's content, I'll work with you to catch him. I have an idea what may work.
So if you agree and we can find him a new home with everyone's help, we can relocate him and leave the quiet flock where they are.
What do you think?
Hello All,
I didn't sleep here Monday night so yesterday I wasn't reminded of the noise until I got home but even then I was up and busy so it didn't bother me. This morning they are at it again...and I find it AMAZING that the roosters and cats get along so well. They literally walk past each other every day in the parking lot...I have never seen anything like it.
I'm going to try and get some sleep now...wish me luck. Unfortunately there's a wooden fence around what I guess is the condo's generator and it's right outside my bedroom window, which is where they love to perch and get their crowing on, so this should be interesting.
Someone sent me an email about the condo association...we just changed board members, apparently folks were thousands in the red with association dues, hence why so much is left undone...like the relocation of the roosters. I've managed a condo community before and we would have never allowed this to go on for more than a day.
Anyhow, I got some new earplugs so maybe that will help. *fingers crossed*
You're right about the cats and chickens. They apparently think they are the same and hang out together everywhere. Your best option may be the giant hawk that hangs out around here and yesterday was giving the chickens heck, trying for a meal.
If I knew of a chicken repellant you could use I'd suggest it. I don't why they like that spot near you so much and why they get so talkative so early in the day.
Uptowngirl is right - they used to pretty much stay in the park before. I used to see a hawk hunting them every now and then, so there was a somewhat natural balance. I think when the City ran them out, the Canadian geese were able to take over. Now we have the $#(*% geese ruining the park with their noxious poop, the chickens and roosters are too close to the residents, and I presume the hawk has to go to Popeyes.
Yes, all in all a fine use of City resources!
it's not just their poop that makes the geese so awful--they're violent! i used to eat lunch in the park, and i'd always have to make it fast, because when they saw me they'd attack en masse...might've been because i had food, but the chickens and ducks have never mobbed me the way the geese always do.
I've never had a problem with the Canadian geese. They seem to have manners. But the big white geese that used to be there will bite your ankles for no reason. The chickens are too smart but they keep their distance - except from the cats.
i should've been more specific--i've never had a problem with the canadian geese, either.
Canadian Geese are peaceful except when Mama is walking those goslings....she will hiss,run at you and pinch you hard on the soft tissue of the back of your leg.
In NY state I have seen one MAD mama attack two Dobermans...and inflict damage on both!
Quote from: localresident on October 06, 2010, 09:06:45 AM
This morning they are at it again...and I find it AMAZING that the roosters and cats get along so well. They literally walk past each other every day in the parking lot...I have never seen anything like it.
Cats and chickens share a common enemy-- dogs.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Quote from: sheclown on October 06, 2010, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: localresident on October 06, 2010, 09:06:45 AM
This morning they are at it again...and I find it AMAZING that the roosters and cats get along so well. They literally walk past each other every day in the parking lot...I have never seen anything like it.
Cats and chickens share a common enemy-- dogs.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
That settles it...it's time to get a dog.
Springfield Animal Care and Rescue Club
www.sacarc.org
Quote from: iloveionia on October 07, 2010, 11:18:48 AM
Springfield Animal Care and Rescue Club
www.sacarc.org
Besides peace and quiet, you will also get MAJOR karma points and a friend for life.
I honestly don't have the necessary time to care for a pet the way it deserves...so no dog right now.
Soooo my birthday is tomorrow and my wish is to wake up at 11am in my own bed w/o being disturbed by the roosters...I'm thinking I will need to consume mass quantities of alcohol tonight and invest in super sonic ear plugs to make that happen. LoL
Are they back? I thought they had wandered off.
I looked at the situation the other day. I wonder if they are attracted to the townhouses b/c of the fencing -- keeps dogs out.
Saw them yesterday evening as I was walking the dog...they were strolling over into gated area
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In an attempt to lure them away from the condos......
Actually I have no idea who did this video or where it was done!
http://animoto.com/play/RSnmNPtFpQmNWcyrP2dhPA (http://animoto.com/play/RSnmNPtFpQmNWcyrP2dhPA)
We need a chicken sanctuary. Wrought iron fenced area (so dogs can't get in) or picket fence even --something that they can squeeze in and out of. A small pond for water, covered feeders, some hay or straw in case they get an urge to lay some eggs, and then they would leave local alone.
Do you think Mack would let us use one of his abandoned foundations for this? Chickens like to be higher up, they could perch on the plumbing pipes which come out of the concrete.
J..I nickname that struttin' rooster in your middle 2 pics,"General Beauregard"..or just "Beau".
named after Confederate General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard (5-28-1818-2-20-1893)
He seemed to see you photographing him and decided to be "Cock of The Walk" with his chest puffing and tail display...
Thanks for the great pics!
Quote from: sheclown on October 11, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
We need a chicken sanctuary. Wrought iron fenced area (so dogs can't get in) or picket fence even --something that they can squeeze in and out of. A small pond for water, covered feeders, some hay or straw in case they get an urge to lay some eggs, and then they would leave local alone.
Do you think Mack would let us use one of his abandoned foundations for this? Chickens like to be higher up, they could perch on the plumbing pipes which come out of the concrete.
There is one of those on e5th, three lots up from Walnut, vacant houses on all sides (so no one to disturb?)
Sustainable Springfield will be happy to help with the day to day care of the chickens. I always thought a sanctuary right there in the park would be great, since the chickens and the park belong to everyone...perhaps the zoo would help with this????
As you can imagine, I'm in support of anything that saves the chickens. But as you are designing the sanctuary, keep in mind chickens can fly. They go over fences, roost in trees, etc. AND so do hawks. There is one hawk in the area that has single handedly kept the chicken population in check. Of the 20 or so chicks hatched this spring only 2 have made it past chicken puberty. So design features need to take that into account.
It's a tough world.
They probably need a covered area to run to for protection.
Well you have the hawk and I know some SPR neighbors that go down there and destroy the eggs because they don't want any more ducks/chickens in the park....
no way.
Quote from: tpot on October 13, 2010, 04:15:47 PM
Well you have the hawk and I know some SPR neighbors that go down there and destroy the eggs because they don't want any more ducks/chickens in the park....
Sounds like a SPAR initiative...
maybe we can get the 40 days ov life people involved.
the Muscovy ducks that the city stole...guess they didn't realize that those ducks are good for eating mosquitoes and other pesky insects....not that they care. As for people going to destroy the eggs...people are sick
Ok guys, so being awakened at 6:30am on a Saturday morning has got to stop...either we're going to have to get this done this week or I really am going to have to call animal control.
buy yourself a pair ov earplugs and go engage in some autoëroticism--i'm pretty sure they were there before you were, and if there is a kind and loving god (my sig. notwithstanding) they'll be there when you leave.
Quote from: localresident on October 16, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
Ok guys, so being awakened at 6:30am on a Saturday morning has got to stop...either we're going to have to get this done this week or I really am going to have to call animal control.
Several people have offered to assist in relocating the offending roosters. Have you gotten in touch with them yet to schedule a round-up?
Bill is moving to a farm in Tennessee with 6 acres and room for chickens. If you can hang in there awhile longer, he can take the noisy roosters with him. Not that I asked him, you understand.
Start by going to Standard Feed ..very close to Beaver St,and get some Chicken Feed. String a trail over to KurolKetsunoHana's place so they can hang out a while and sling some rooster vibe around.
Everybody should be empathetic enough to view things through the other persons eyeballs..or Rooster Crowin' ears in this case...just saying my 1/2 cent.
Maybe it is the construction of the building? We had a rooster over here for about six months and he never woke any of us up. If you went outside you could hear him inside, not at all. I am willing to try and relocate the roosters-when can everyone else come? I think that viewing throught the other persons (or avian) eyeballs applies all the way around. Killing chickens and wasting our tax dollars is pretty $%#^ too.
Quote from: Ernest Street on October 16, 2010, 10:22:14 PM
Start by going to Standard Feed ..very close to Beaver St,and get some Chicken Feed. String a trail over to KurolKetsunoHana's place so they can hang out a while and sling some rooster vibe around.
Everybody should be empathetic enough to view things through the other persons eyeballs..or Rooster Crowin' ears in this case...just saying my 1/2 cent.
Thank you for this post. I love chickens and ducks as much as the next person but don't particularly want duck poop on my sidewalks and roosters crowing outside of my window before 6 am.
Well said, Ernest Street. Crowing chickens, screaming squirrels or squabbling spouses - they're all the same. Too bad animal control can only deal with a few of these neighborhood problems.
That's why several people offered to help....and it was asked, did localresident contact any of them for the help offered?
If someone has a new home for a couple of roosters I'll be glad to help. Better that than Animal Control. I do NOT believe they "relocate" the chickens to a new home. I think it's more likely an Auschwitz-type relocation. Having observed the chickens up close and personal lately I think there is a peaceful way to catch a couple. But I want a guaranteed homeland for them first.
I saw and heard them in the side yard next to your house this morning...didn't see any across the street...this was about 7-8 this morning.
Yes, that was after they decided to see what bugs were under my fresh mulch! Oh, well. If it bothered me I'd put up fencing, but they are just being chickens!
And your mulch is now bug-less!
I've been doing some "scientific" research on this online and have come up with the following ideas as chicken repellents: turn on the sprinkler system, scatter coffee grounds outside, spray vinegar where they hang out, lay chicken wire on the ground, and place plastic snakes in the grass.
Just warn the Neighbors before putting out the snakes.. :D
1. I live in a condo community, I can't put up a chicken wire fence.
2. I sent my phone # in a dm to those who offered to help, I never got a call.
3. I don't want them killed, but I can't round them up on my own and I'm at my wits end. I have midterms this week and I have to get some sleep and I would prefer for it to be in my own bed.
4. I don't have access to the sprinkler system, it's set automatically by the board association. Funny you mention the sprinklers, they used to run between 5am-7am, but they changed it up which is right when the roosters started wandering down here.
5.Vinegar sounds like it will kill the grass, which could cause me to receive a fine.
6. I don't believe it's a waste of money if they are considered a public nuissance...which trust me, to those living in these gates feel that way.
7. Again I don't want them killed, I just want to sleep and unfortunately our walls are not sound proof so something has to be done.
Maybe you could speak to the homeowner's association about changing the schedule back to 5:00 am to 7:00 am, if that works. If they are watering anyway, why not make it at the time that keeps the rooster away?
HEY!.. What about those evil kid pool squirt guns that slurp up the pool and shoot 15 feet or more..I know someone will think this is cruel, but if the bums are loud, run them off.
Whether drunk crack addicted or cracked corn addicted...just give them a gentle wet reminder that they are not welcome.
Roosters are WAY louder than bums,(like 80DB) and most are said to be quiet unless they get an attitude.
Maybe this gentle H2O squirting will make them adapt and move on ..possibly farther north to join their cousins across from the May-Port ferry.
I can speak to the HOA about it, but the board doesn't meet again until December, you know how bureaucracy works...everything has to be brought before the board. I can't believe I didn't make the correlation before now though...some neighbors were complaining about the sprinklers hitting the inside fence at 5am, waking them from their sleep(although it only lasted 30 mins)...this was something that didn't bother me since it was only 2 days a week and I'm not that light a sleeper...but shortly after that the roosters began wandering down here. I honestly had never heard them before then.
As for the squirt guns, I work until midnight, sometimes 1am, so I don't get to sleep some nights until 2am...forcing myself out of bed at 6am to shoo off roosters with a water gun is not even feasible. Let's think about it, the complex is a nice size...which could mean that I would be running up and down the parking lot to get them out of the gate...and how many times would I have to do this before they stayed away.
You guys are asking a lot, lol. I will see if I can speak with the board president about changing the time back for the sprinklers just for as a test to see if it keeps the roosters away...and then they can make a final decision in Dec at the board meeting. *wish me luck*
The sprinklers can only be a solution on some days at best. And it isn't practical to get up before dawn with a squirt gun to shut up a rooster. And upon reading further, chickens have no sense of smell, do I'm guessing the coffee grounds and/or vinegar would have no effect. I'm running out of suggestions here.
There are motion detector sprinklers - http://www.amazon.com/Aquascape-Scarecrow-Motion-Detector-Sprinkler/dp/B001652PX8
We used to use one against tom cats that beat up our kitty whenever he went outside. Worked.
sounds to me like the real problem is that you moved into the kind ov place where you have such a ridiculous list ov dos and don'ts that you practically have to ask permission to go to the potty--and then they tell you you own the place. try kissing condominium life goodbye, and i think you'll find yourself a lot happiër in a lot ov ways.
Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on October 18, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
sounds to me like the real problem is that you moved into the kind ov place where you have such a ridiculous list ov dos and don'ts that you practically have to ask permission to go to the potty--and then they tell you you own the place. try kissing condominium life goodbye, and i think you'll find yourself a lot happiër in a lot ov ways.
I wouldn't say that...it's no different than an HOA. If you live in a hoa community you can't paint your house purple just b/c you feel like it. The sprinklers, exterior, roofs and landscaping is maintained by the CA...so I have no problem following the rules set forth by the CA. All in all I love my neighborhood and neighbors...minus this rooster thing I'm pretty happy in my townhome.
well, i might be projecting a little bit--condominiums, HOAs, and pretty much anything that says one can or can't do this or that with property that one theoretically owns bother me to no end.
I have found a place to take the rooster, they raise all kinds of chickens and also do rescue. So if you are looking for chicks/chickens or need a home for one..... Plus if you buy one of their chicks and one turns out to be a rooster, they will swap you out for a hen.
How much for the rescue?
She just takes them I think, she raises and sells chickens and they also will take rescues, I think we just need to catch them and deliver them :-) I think the name is Green Eggs and no Ham Ranch, but she has a booth out at the Ramona Flea Market.
We have to catch them huh...well that should be interesting, lol. :-)
Well guys I am sorry, but I tried...tomorrow morning I am calling Animal Control. I removed the larger plants from in front of my house a few months ago in an attempt to beautify my area...as it seems they are always outside my window b/c they are digging trenches and laying eggs...which is why they are always on the porch when we leave in the morning.
I am beyond upset...and I know that we've tried to come to some civil discourse on this board but I have officially come to my wits end on this issue. The roosters go.
If I knew how to add a picture on here I would.
Please let's try to trap the roosters and get them to the place that Julie mentioned. I'd hate to see a wholesale capture when it's the roosters that are the noisemakers and the hens just pretty much mind their own business.
I wouldn't call laying eggs on my porch minding their own business, but ok.
Quote from: localresident on November 11, 2010, 07:12:48 PM
I wouldn't call laying eggs on my porch minding their own business, but ok.
Maybe they are paying you rent with eggs instead of money? ;D
and you've been offered help and options....none of which you've taken. So much for trying to work together to resolve this....shame on you >:(
Quote from: Springfielder on November 12, 2010, 07:10:37 AM
and you've been offered help and options....none of which you've taken. So much for trying to work together to resolve this....shame on you >:(
this, exactly.
There are still those of us willing to set up traps to catch and relocate them....it would've helped if you contacted some of those who have offered help. I know that there's one, who offered to relocate them (and still would) if you'd contact them.
Well it appears Stephen was correct. Lots of offers of help were given. I personally went out and found a rescue group who would take the roosters, we lined up traps and low and behold you did not reach out to ONE of us to get us the location and set up some time for us to access the site.
I am taking this whole thread of your rants and raves, including the particular ones about how you could care less that you are wasting our tax dollars and sending it to our local council members. I think you are truly a MISERABLE person, and honestly hope you get the hell out of our great neighborhood. We have had our fair share of bitter people in this neighborhood, we do not need anymore. You have already proven you cannot be truthful with us. We did everything you asked and yet you did not even try on your side to meet us half way. That tells me you just enjoy runnugn people around and causing chaos and turmoil along with wasting our hard earned money (because I am pretty sure taxes are pretty pathetic on a 30K condo). I am pretty much done with you, and hope the city can find a way to bill you directly for wasting our money after we offerred you a free way to handle this.
I hate stupid people!
Local Resident, you asked for help. It was offered. Now you just need to take advantage of the offer. People are willing to help.
Many of your neighbors find the chickens charming. Growing up in a 1960's concrete block house on the Southside, I was awakened regularly by a rooster, which I thought was unusual in a subdivision. I have no idea where he lived, but I grew up listening to him, and I kind of liked it.
You've made it clear you don't. So, OK. Will you please take the time to contact some of those who have offered to assist you in relocating the rooster? If I know my neighbors, they probably would have already taken it upon themselves to go help you already without your contacing them if they could get in the gate. In this case, however, it will require your cooperation, so please contact them.
I'm not sending this off topic, but the "Condos" in question are being rented out as apartments.
Now this raises an age old question. Usually renters in a suburban setting are living alongside long time property owners.
they usually come and go quietly,and have respect for these people.I have been a 13 year long Riverside resident and have run into cases of Neighboring renters being overly racist or just plain nosey. I have had passing questions asked of me about activities in my now closed off alley...How the hell should I know, the city won't let us close it off privately, so should we be maintaining and policing it?
This Avian tortured person should just get their deposit back and move to mandarin.
This is funny...I have worked in Springfield during the day around the questioned area, and heard no Crowing or traffic noise now that you mention it...the Roosters just strutted around quietly. (I worked or visited 17-20 times and had to have the secret gate lifted.)
Quote from: DeadGirlsDontDance on July 12, 2010, 10:06:20 AM
I miss the chickens downtown. They've been gone a long time. I guess somebody thought $250 apiece ornamental bantam chickens were striking an excessively rural note...
But my most memorable Fourth of July ever was partly because of one of those chickens.
I had gone downtown with a carload of friends to see the fireworks. We picked a spot on the Riverwalk, and waited for the show to start. There was a pretty little rooster strutting around near us, up past his bedtime because there were so many people around.
The fireworks began. BOOM! KA-POW! BLAM BLAM BLAM! And the crowd went "Oooh! Ahhh!"
And in every single pause, the little rooster would crow with all his might. He was tiny, so all his might sounded like an extremely enthusiastic rusty gate hinge.
He was hilarious. Everyone within hearing range was cracking up laughing, and enjoying themselves a lot more than they would have without his contribution to the festivities.
Bring back the downtown chickens!
Oh, I forgot. Hizzoner's phone number is 630-1776, in case you want to complain about God knows how much money being wasted by paying people God knows how much to remove something that bothers nobody.
Well, nobody but some old biddies, anyway.
Thanks for making me choke on my fishsticks! Seriouly that is a damn funny story...lol
First off let me correct you all...I actually did contact 2 of the folks who offered with my phone # and no one called or responded to my dm.
Also SOME of the condos in questions are rented...I purchased mine, and I live alongside 2 owners as well. Most of my neighbors are older and own their condos as well and I have witnessed quite a few renters come and go in the past 3 years, but that should have no bearing on whether I have the right to a peaceful rooster free existence.
...but the roosters appear to be gone today, and so are my complaints.
You people have some nerve.
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 12, 2010, 02:31:57 PM
Well it appears Stephen was correct. Lots of offers of help were given. I personally went out and found a rescue group who would take the roosters, we lined up traps and low and behold you did not reach out to ONE of us to get us the location and set up some time for us to access the site.
I am taking this whole thread of your rants and raves, including the particular ones about how you could care less that you are wasting our tax dollars and sending it to our local council members. I think you are truly a MISERABLE person, and honestly hope you get the hell out of our great neighborhood. We have had our fair share of bitter people in this neighborhood, we do not need anymore. You have already proven you cannot be truthful with us. We did everything you asked and yet you did not even try on your side to meet us half way. That tells me you just enjoy runnugn people around and causing chaos and turmoil along with wasting our hard earned money (because I am pretty sure taxes are pretty pathetic on a 30K condo). I am pretty much done with you, and hope the city can find a way to bill you directly for wasting our money after we offerred you a free way to handle this.
I hate stupid people!
Vitriol much...and I'm the one with the issues. Right.
I know I was one who offered to help but I didn't hear from you. If the roosters come back let me know if they are still hanging out at your place and I'll help you if I can. Since the weather got drier they have discovered my flower bed is a much better source of bugs than the vacant lot next door so my mulch is in total disarray. But I haven't messed with it because I was hoping it gave them a reason to hang out in my yard instead of yours. I know that at least one rooster was around this morning because every time it crowed my cat attempted to crow back (unsuccessfully)!
Quote from: localresident on November 15, 2010, 11:33:32 AM
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 12, 2010, 02:31:57 PM
Well it appears Stephen was correct. Lots of offers of help were given. I personally went out and found a rescue group who would take the roosters, we lined up traps and low and behold you did not reach out to ONE of us to get us the location and set up some time for us to access the site.
I am taking this whole thread of your rants and raves, including the particular ones about how you could care less that you are wasting our tax dollars and sending it to our local council members. I think you are truly a MISERABLE person, and honestly hope you get the hell out of our great neighborhood. We have had our fair share of bitter people in this neighborhood, we do not need anymore. You have already proven you cannot be truthful with us. We did everything you asked and yet you did not even try on your side to meet us half way. That tells me you just enjoy running people around and causing chaos and turmoil along with wasting our hard earned money (because I am pretty sure taxes are pretty pathetic on a 30K condo). I am pretty much done with you, and hope the city can find a way to bill you directly for wasting our money after we offerred you a free way to handle this.
I hate stupid people!
Vitriol much...and I'm the one with the issues. Right.
Glad you finally realize it. I too was one of the people offerring to help, and as stated finding a place to place the roosters. No PM from you at all. How do you expect anyone to help you if they cannot get in the gates. Of course if the chickens are gone then what would you have to whine about? Your miserable existence in that cheap apt looking building? That could be a good start, and most of us here could commiserate with you on that one.....
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 15, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: localresident on November 15, 2010, 11:33:32 AM
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 12, 2010, 02:31:57 PM
Well it appears Stephen was correct. Lots of offers of help were given. I personally went out and found a rescue group who would take the roosters, we lined up traps and low and behold you did not reach out to ONE of us to get us the location and set up some time for us to access the site.
I am taking this whole thread of your rants and raves, including the particular ones about how you could care less that you are wasting our tax dollars and sending it to our local council members. I think you are truly a MISERABLE person, and honestly hope you get the hell out of our great neighborhood. We have had our fair share of bitter people in this neighborhood, we do not need anymore. You have already proven you cannot be truthful with us. We did everything you asked and yet you did not even try on your side to meet us half way. That tells me you just enjoy running people around and causing chaos and turmoil along with wasting our hard earned money (because I am pretty sure taxes are pretty pathetic on a 30K condo). I am pretty much done with you, and hope the city can find a way to bill you directly for wasting our money after we offerred you a free way to handle this.
I hate stupid people!
Vitriol much...and I'm the one with the issues. Right.
Glad you finally realize it. I too was one of the people offerring to help, and as stated finding a place to place the roosters. No PM from you at all. How do you expect anyone to help you if they cannot get in the gates. Of course if the chickens are gone then what would you have to whine about? Your miserable existence in that cheap apt looking building? That could be a good start, and most of us here could commiserate with you on that one.....
This is counterproductive so I'm going to say this and leave it alone. I sent 2 messages and left it at that...once I didn't hear back I figured that you folks were just spinning your wheels since you actually enjoy the roosters, why would you want them gone. Also, I'm a person...and this is how you speak to someone over a rooster. A rooster that I never wanted killed, only hushed. And I'm sure you typed this while you enjoyed your chicken salad for lunch or eggs for breakfast.
I actually don't eat meat...so who's the insensitive one now????
I gave this board a chance although most folks in the neighborhood warned me to stay away from it. You do a lot of good on here, but you also spread a lot of hate. My miserable existence...really, again b/c I want some roosters gone from my townhome...not out of the neighborhood but from under my window. The fact that you could stretch your fingers to type something so hateful is an indication of your character. Funny thing is, this is a message board, I seriously doubt you would have the nerve to look my daughter and I in the face and repeat those words. In fact I dare you...I'll give you the gate code and the # to my miserable ass apartment and I dare you to be so brave as to say it to our face.
calm down, mate. uptowngirl may've been a little out ov line, but i promise you you've been no angel yourself.
it's kind ov a shame we've all ended up so antagonistic--in other circumstances, it'd be cool to sit around with you and talk about how awesome we are for not eating meat.
I have a dumb idea...Uptowner might dig it or not...back in the day the zoo used to have Peacocks walking around the park..they are pretty birds, not sure how well they would fair, they dont make as much noise as roosters, but if someone was to breed peacocks in Springfield would Uptowners have an issue? I think the pond at Mageret & Park had a few peacocks in there. Whats the laws regarding Peacocks?
Peacocks actually make a great deal of noise, so trying to replace one kind with another wouldn't work. Plus, the chickens and roosters have been a part of the neighborhood, whereas Peacocks aren't
Peacocks make a lot of noise, more than roosters but I would not mind them at all (much more enjoyable sound than the outrageous rolling boomboxes I now have to suffer through)-and btw we have roosters and hens over here and no one complains. I do not eat meat, so no I was not munching on any chickenn(was that some kind of racist jab?). I offerred repeatedly to help, I was never contacted. I went out of my way and spent a lot of my time to find a home to take the roosters too so they would not be killed,and I asked to borrow traps to trap them. I posted all of that here and still not a peep from you. Yes I may be a little testy, but I am ticked off that local can rouse herself to call the city to waste our money and kill chickens but can't PM to set up a time to let us come set the traps. Local, you came on here making threats against one of our great neighbors, someone well liked and active in our neighborhood, you did a whole lot of whining and complaining, and you said no one cared nor would help you so we were a bunch of jerks. When people stepped up to fulfill your request of help, you blew them off and now want to blame everyone else and the roosters (who are just doing what rooster do) that you are still oh so miserable. I certainly would say any of this to your face, I have no issue with that, would be more than happy in fact, when you set that time up I will glady bring along the rooster traps so we can kill two birds with one stone so to say. Alas, I doubt you will contact anyone to set that up either-it is much easier (and enjoyable for you) to sit at your keyboard and whine.
wow!! I never heard the peacock noise before!,.. No I have to youtube this I want to hear what this sound is like.
Quote from: Springfielder on November 16, 2010, 05:47:40 AM
Peacocks actually make a great deal of noise, so trying to replace one kind with another wouldn't work. Plus, the chickens and roosters have been a part of the neighborhood, whereas Peacocks aren't
WELL APPARENTLY they aint apart of Springfield anymore! How you uptowners gonna get your lil chickens back? Seems like the new people control your neighborhood now. So how do you answer that?
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 16, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
Peacocks make a lot of noise, more than roosters but I would not mind them at all (much more enjoyable sound than the outrageous rolling boomboxes I now have to suffer through)-and btw we have roosters and hens over here and no one complains. I do not eat meat, so no I was not munching on any chickenn(was that some kind of racist jab?). I offerred repeatedly to help, I was never contacted. I went out of my way and spent a lot of my time to find a home to take the roosters too so they would not be killed,and I asked to borrow traps to trap them. I posted all of that here and still not a peep from you. Yes I may be a little testy, but I am ticked off that local can rouse herself to call the city to waste our money and kill chickens but can't PM to set up a time to let us come set the traps. Local, you came on here making threats against one of our great neighbors, someone well liked and active in our neighborhood, you did a whole lot of whining and complaining, and you said no one cared nor would help you so we were a bunch of jerks. When people stepped up to fulfill your request of help, you blew them off and now want to blame everyone else and the roosters (who are just doing what rooster do) that you are still oh so miserable. I certainly would say any of this to your face, I have no issue with that, would be more than happy in fact, when you set that time up I will glady bring along the rooster traps so we can kill two birds with one stone so to say. Alas, I doubt you will contact anyone to set that up either-it is much easier (and enjoyable for you) to sit at your keyboard and whine.
Nope, not racist...poultry is the most consumed meat in this country, hence the reference. I mentioned eggs as well, but you only latched on to the chicken reference, hit dogs will holler I guess.
Who did I threaten, the roosters by calling the city...I never once threatened a single sole on here, so please don't spread those vicious lies.
Like I stated, I did contact someone, there was a guy a few pages back who offered to come and help, I sent him a pm with my telephone #, no call...as well as one of the other posters. I have now been contacted on here by someone a bit more civil to help with this matter so I will forego your gracious offer.
Let me say this though, I will gladly send you my info, but what you will not do is disrespect me to my face...trust that you don't want those kind of problems in your life. Now that my dear was a threat...one I have no problem making good on.
Here you go...
http://www.youtube.com/v/9MhZPqHeEAQ
Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on November 15, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
calm down, mate. uptowngirl may've been a little out ov line, but i promise you you've been no angel yourself.
it's kind ov a shame we've all ended up so antagonistic--in other circumstances, it'd be cool to sit around with you and talk about how awesome we are for not eating meat.
How is it you tell me to calm down after she spews such vitriol my way, and over some damn feathered birds...you all must be out of your mind on here. Why didn't you direct that to her, and a little out of line, she verbally attacked me b/c I want to get rid of some yapping crowing birds...not because I wanted to hurt a child or a neighbor, but because I came home and found a bird running from my porch, which had to run by us as we walked up, scaring my daughter nearly half to death while leaving behind 7 unhatched eggs.
I don't live on a farm, I live in downtown Jacksonville...and again I wouldn't even have a problem with the roosters if they didn't wander over here early in the mornings, climb up on the wooden fence behind my bedroom window and go at it for hours.
This entire thing is just plain silly...and unfortunately mean people who don't eat meat aren't all that awesome in my book, they're just vegetarians.
Lady you are nuts. You started out on this thread by stating we were all crazy and that Mr. Max should go to jail. In any case I do not think you will last long around here, so I am not going to lose any sleep- I did my utmost best to help with the situation and save some chickens from being gassed. You make it sound like a hen running up the sidewalk in your direction is similar to a big man with a knife attacking you. Chickens are harmless, they cannot hurt you unless you happen to be about six inches tall. As Mr. Dare likes to say all is well, I will not carry the chickens death on my karma LOL!
Now as to the peacocks, they are beautiful but really, really loud with a very distinctive call. They, along with some swans would be fabulous in confederate park the issue is keeping them IN the park.
New guidelines around keeping fowl, goats, and even horses at a community stable should be established- afterall when this neighborhood was built all of that was the norm. There is no reason the urban core cannot be more self sunstainable. Just because we are all urban dwellers does not mean we should leave such a huge carbon footprint, unless you are a townhouse dweller with an abnormal fear of 4 inch tall birds apparently.
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 16, 2010, 12:59:50 PM
Lady you are nuts. You started out on this thread by stating we were all crazy and that Mr. Max should go to jail. In any case I do not think you will last long around here, so I am not going to lose any sleep- I did my utmost best to help with the situation and save some chickens from being gassed. You make it sound like a hen running up the sidewalk in your direction is similar to a big man with a knife attacking you. Chickens are harmless, they cannot hurt you unless you happen to be about six inches tall. As Mr. Dare likes to say all is well, I will not carry the chickens death on my karma LOL!
Now as to the peacocks, they are beautiful but really, really loud with a very distinctive call. They, along with some swans would be fabulous in confederate park the issue is keeping them IN the park.
New guidelines around keeping fowl, goats, and even horses at a community stable should be established- afterall when this neighborhood was built all of that was the norm. There is no reason the urban core cannot be more self sunstainable. Just because we are all urban dwellers does not mean we should leave such a huge carbon footprint, unless you are a townhouse dweller with an abnormal fear of 4 inch tall birds apparently.
The reality is...you're a...well nevermind. Have a good day.
To everyone else on the board...my apologies.
My initial post was written out of frustration. For one I was told that they would relocate the roosters, not kill them. Furthermore my reason for calling the city was b/c of the inaction of the Condo Association and my not being a member of a strong networking community in this area that could assist with the issue. There was no way I could(or even considered) catch them on my own, especially with having no clue what to do with them once caught.
My schedule is tight, my sleep is important to me and again this all just started randomly in January, so I was caught off guard...and to see all of the calls and effort I made to get them removed thrown away by one man, and to see the praise on this board for his efforts, was infuriating...hence my reaction.
I am a young professional...and having decided to make this a starter home for my daughter and I to see if I like the area before investing in something much larger, the last thing I was expecting were roosters, which should be understandable for an urban core.
I apologize again if I offended anyone, with the exception of the mean spirited uptown girl, be very offended...but I just want to be able sleep in on a Saturday morning, and for my daughter to be able to play with her dolls on the porch...that's all.
I'm done with the issue. Good day.
Quote from: localresident on November 16, 2010, 02:20:27 PM
To everyone else on the board...my apologies.
My initial post was written out of frustration. For one I was told that they would relocate the roosters, not kill them. Furthermore my reason for calling the city was b/c of the inaction of the Condo Association and my not being a member of a strong networking community in this area that could assist with the issue. There was no way I could(or even considered) catch them on my own, especially with having no clue what to do with them once caught.
My schedule is tight, my sleep is important to me and again this all just started randomly in January, so I was caught off guard...and to see all of the calls and effort I made to get them removed thrown away by one man, and to see the praise on this board for his efforts, was infuriating...hence my reaction.
I am a young professional...and having decided to make this a starter home for my daughter and I to see if I like the area before investing in something much larger, the last thing I was expecting were roosters, which should be understandable for an urban core.
I apologize again if I offended anyone, with the exception of the mean spirited uptown girl, be very offended...but I just want to be able sleep in on a Saturday morning, and for my daughter to be able to play with her dolls on the porch...that's all.
I'm done with the issue. Good day.
Aww come on!! Dont give up so easily...Dont let the Uptowner punk you out. Stay and fight this cause with all your might! I hate roosters to, come let us hate together.
Actually if you cook them long enough and with the right herbs they can be quite tasty. :D
Okay, okay. Local Resident and I have had a couple of PMs and phone calls today and we have a strategy. I'm not saying what it is because I don't want word to get back to the roosters. But it doesn't involve trapping or relocating them, just discouraging them from their early morning wake up calls outside her window. She is, in fact, a very nice person and I apologize for not reaching out sooner and with more determination. We are meeting this weekend to try Plan A and I'll let you know what happens.
For about $75 dollars you can buy a motion detecting sprinkler that turns on a reciprocating sprinkler head for 5 or ten seconds. That would run them off.
Of course it might also make the mailman stop delivering your mail, too.
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 16, 2010, 02:56:51 PM
Quote from: localresident on November 16, 2010, 02:20:27 PM
To everyone else on the board...my apologies.
My initial post was written out of frustration. For one I was told that they would relocate the roosters, not kill them. Furthermore my reason for calling the city was b/c of the inaction of the Condo Association and my not being a member of a strong networking community in this area that could assist with the issue. There was no way I could(or even considered) catch them on my own, especially with having no clue what to do with them once caught.
My schedule is tight, my sleep is important to me and again this all just started randomly in January, so I was caught off guard...and to see all of the calls and effort I made to get them removed thrown away by one man, and to see the praise on this board for his efforts, was infuriating...hence my reaction.
I am a young professional...and having decided to make this a starter home for my daughter and I to see if I like the area before investing in something much larger, the last thing I was expecting were roosters, which should be understandable for an urban core.
I apologize again if I offended anyone, with the exception of the mean spirited uptown girl, be very offended...but I just want to be able sleep in on a Saturday morning, and for my daughter to be able to play with her dolls on the porch...that's all.
I'm done with the issue. Good day.
Aww come on!! Dont give up so easily...Dont let the Uptowner punk you out. Stay and fight this cause with all your might! I hate roosters to, come let us hate together.
Lol, you call this easy huh...and I'm not giving up, just re-strategizing. You are a nut, where were you when they were going hard on me, sitting back and allowing someone else to take the heat perhaps, smh. #freerider :)
Ahhh I am truly not mean, just frustrated too. I do not "hate anyone", just feel there is a better way to handle this than spend taxpayers money to kill the chickens (I am crazy like that). If you are working with SpringfieldChicken you are in good hands. If it does become necessary to trap and relocate the chickens we can get the traps and I have a rescue farm that will take them free of charge.
lol I love this thread! People.... with problems... working through issues... fighting... making up. Good stuff, really. I love free-roaming chickens and have even seen some in the grass alleyways off Margaret. Not sure if I could function being woken up all the time by roosters in super-close proximity but relocation sounds much better than killing them :-/ Someone needs to tell those roosters to shoosh!! lol :)
"If it crows, it goes." There are an amazing number of people in Riverside who are keeping hens in their backyards and with no roosters nobody knows.