http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-06-19/story/shooting-being-investigated-west-jacksonville
In broad daylight....
Like that is a first.
Sad stuff.. what is odd ( to me at least ) is that he was with a group and no one else was hit,( don't get me wrong, I'm glad no one else was hit, and also sorry to hear he was hit ) nor does it appear anyone in the group could identify the people or car that did this attack. Just seems like it was a deliberate attack on him. Sad.
One thing seems obvious, it wasn't a random shooting, which means there must be a motive. What puzzles me is no description of killer nor vehicle in broad daylight.
Same here... the story says he was with friends and none of these people could identify the car or a description of the person. Something is not adding up .
it never does in street life.....Wont be the first time wont be the last time. And it was probably over something silly.
Its jacksonville, so how is this new or outrageous.
This is a case of "stop snitching", I'd bet. Somebody out of that group knows exaclty who did it and why. Everyone that was with him should be dropped in that Iceland volcano.
If the case is as most seem to believe, everyone knew, then what is the problem?
How can it be reversed?
What is "street life"?
What is "stop snitching"?
Should we begin a campaign to incarcerate/eliminate all the "street life" and "stop snitching" participants?
Is this strictly a cultural issue?
We really need to do better than complaining and blaming.
What is the REAL problem?
The stop snitching is for others not to talk to the police and/or tell them what they saw and know. Some don't talk out of fear of retaliation, distrust of law enforcement, and not wanting to get involved. It's a sad, sad means of keeping quiet, when one could otherwise help to solve a case.
Madd dads have been campaigning in crime infested areas, encouraging people to work with the police, and to help rid their neighborhoods of crime. The crime fighters call line is great, you don't have to give your name and you're given a number, should your tip(s) help make an arrest/conviction...but many still see it as snitching.
Reversing it...has to come from within the community, has to be a personal level of wanting to do the right thing and help.
I would argue that any change must come from within the family. The community is where the problem exists. The family must reassert it's moral authority.
A community filled with families (and individuals) who oppose reckless violence and a culture of crime will always win the day.
Reverse the equation, and reverse the result.
Heard a neighborhood rumor that this was in retaliation on the victim for his having beaten up someone's retarded brother and that the shooter was a female family member of the person who had been beaten up.
This is third hand from a doubtfully reliable source so is most probably BS.
As despicable as abusing the handicapped is, a family member is not legally justified to shoot the alleged attacker.
I can see some vigilante justice, depending on the nature of the attack. That said, even "justifiable" (subjective though it would be) homicide must be punished.
Maybe it was invisible man in Prius.
If it was a Prius it would have been a drive by due to the sudden accelearation pproblems. Funny since the BP stuff we don't hear much about Toyota.
Value of a human life is pathetic in Jacksonville.
It is unbelievable :(
Horrible to hear, but in a group of friends and no ID on the shooter yet or really good leads, plus none of them were hit?
Sounds sketchy.
and 4:30pm is brazin
24 year old woman just arrested and charged with murder. Neighbor dispute. What sort of dispute needs to be settled with a bullet?? Crazy people.
In "Broad Daylight" is not in line with socially constructed norms,which tend to anticipate and accepts dark and closer to midnight hour.
The neighborhood in question appears to be the 'fringe',a 'buffer' to core "better' habitat if you will.
If ever my own better quality core habitat begins to feel like this (like my once idyllic childhood native North Miami became ??!!) then two things for sure:
Downtown did not and could not revitalize
I am out of here and I will write a book about the experience.
Article on woman arrested:'
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23976595/detail.html
Woman Charged In 19-Year-Old's Slaying
Police: 32-Year-Old Started Shooting At Family In North Riverside
POSTED: Monday, June 21, 2010
UPDATED: 11:42 am EDT June 21, 2010
Jacksonville Sheriff's Office booking photo of Tawana Harvey
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Police announced the arrest of a 32-year-old woman in connection with a fatal shooting in North Riverside on Saturday.
Investigators have charged Tawana Harvey with murder and two counts of attempted murder. Police said Harvey shot and killed 19-year-old Sidney Kirksey during a dispute.
Lt. Larry Schmitt said there was an ongoing dispute between the two families. Schmitt said a car drove up to 2600 Ernest Street, and Harvey got out and, according to several witnesses, started shooting at the Kirksey family.
Police said Sidney Kirksey was standing outside of his home at the intersection of Ernest Street and Ralph Street when he was shot. He was taken to a hospital, where he later died.
This is a terrible event. No dispute should ever result in gunfire. If you look in google street view, this looks like a quiet street of bungalows. Terrible that it turned into a crime scene.
Quote from: 77danj7 on June 21, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
... an ongoing dispute between the two families.
Well lets hope that Ole Sparky will soon be her next door neighbor..People just don't care anymore..
Most of us have arrived at where we are today by looking into the future and anticipating the consequences of our actions, good or bad. For some reason or another, there is a large segment of the population that lacks this basic skill. They are unable to look 5 seconds into the future and instead simply act on impulse. Unfortunately for the rest of us, you don't always know who these people are until it's too late. They can't all be like Raven from "Snow Crash" and have it tattooed on their forehead.
Quote from: jbroadglide on June 21, 2010, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: 77danj7 on June 21, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
... an ongoing dispute between the two families.
Well lets hope that Ole Sparky will soon be her next door neighbor..People just don't care anymore..
This Friday someone gets executed via firing squad in the US.
I think it is this Friday. I heard it on lex and terry. I have to say, props to that guy who picked that method.
Quote from: Sportmotor on June 22, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: jbroadglide on June 21, 2010, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: 77danj7 on June 21, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
... an ongoing dispute between the two families.
Well lets hope that Ole Sparky will soon be her next door neighbor..People just don't care anymore..
This friday someone gets exicuted via fireing squad in the US.
I think it is this friday. I heard it on lex and terry. I have to say, props to that guy who picked that method.
I thought they whacked that guy in Utah by firing squad last....
Quote from: Sportmotor on June 22, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: jbroadglide on June 21, 2010, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: 77danj7 on June 21, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
... an ongoing dispute between the two families.
Well lets hope that Ole Sparky will soon be her next door neighbor..People just don't care anymore..
This friday someone gets exicuted via fireing squad in the US.
I think it is this friday. I heard it on lex and terry. I have to say, props to that guy who picked that method.
It was last Friday. He's done.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/19/us/19death.html?src=me
Quote from: AmyLynne on June 22, 2010, 07:00:03 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on June 22, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: jbroadglide on June 21, 2010, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: 77danj7 on June 21, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
... an ongoing dispute between the two families.
Well lets hope that Ole Sparky will soon be her next door neighbor..People just don't care anymore..
This Friday someone gets executed via firing squad in the US.
I think it is this Friday. I heard it on lex and terry. I have to say, props to that guy who picked that method.
I thought they whacked that guy in Utah by firing squad last....
AH Iv lost track of time, well good on him I suppose. They should have made it a payperview event and givin the revenu to the vics family
I don't agree with you about that particular statement, but I do think if justice were served more quickly and measures such as these implemented more often we might see a major decrease in crime. Personally whether the victim or the survivor of, it would do me no good to watch someone lose their life. I guess others like though, so to each their own.
Good to see homisides are trending down, but the number needs to be way lower for the size of the city.
The guy in Utah chose to die by firing squad. There were 5 guns on a table, fixed and only certain guns had bullets, so the guards would not know who killed the perp. The guy wanted to die by firing squad because he wanted more notoriety. Give them sparky from now on, sure its capital, but firing squad is too easy for people.
Homicides will go back up when the criminals have cheap money to spend on guns and drugs. The economy helps keep them down as there is less money available to bad people.
Quote from: Timkin on June 22, 2010, 02:25:20 PM
I don't agree with you about that particular statement, but I do think if justice were served more quickly and measures such as these implemented more often we might see a major decrease in crime. Personally whether the victim or the survivor of, it would do me no good to watch someone lose their life. I guess others like though, so to each their own.
They dont have to watch it, but payper view could raise money and give to them letting other people pay if they wanted to see it. There is a market out for it, I say go grab it and do some good with that money.
With all due respect Sportmotor.. no offense intended.. People that get some thrill by watching others die , have something terribly wrong with their thinking. That said, I get your theory in giving the proceeds to the victim's family. Personally if I lose a loved one , by whatever means , especially murder, I seriously doubt money would make me feel better , or watching the murderer die, make my pain less. I respect your opinion. i just do not agree .
Quote from: Timkin on June 23, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
With all due respect Sportmotor.. no offense intended..
I stop reading here becuase anytime anyone says this, its a lie and ment with very little respect.
;D
suit yourself. It is not my intent to offend.