Jun 3 in JACKSONVILLE, FL â€" In partnership with Greenscape of Jacksonville, volunteers will plant 75 trees at the Henry J. Klutho Park.
Trees for Tracks is a CSX program, in partnership with City Year and the Alliance for Community Trees, that will plant one tree for each of the 21,000 miles of track across our network.
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THURSDAY, JUNE 3, 2010
CSX TREES FOR TRACKS IN JACKSONVILLE, FL
HENRY J. KLUTHO PARK
1:00 PM â€" 3:00 PM
Sign up as a volunteer:
http://rsvp.keeponliving.org/jax/
Great news! I'm signed up to help plant.
OK, so do we need 75 more trees in the park, a park that hopefully will get redone as it has other issues? Are we just planting trees to plant trees or for a purpose? Are there better and more in need places to plant these trees? Though I would agree that it would be cool if it was part of the remediation.
Quote from: stephendare on May 18, 2010, 08:51:28 AM
Lunican any idea what kind of trees? Poplar and Willows are bioremediators.
I hope it is a mix with live oaks, maples, and magnolias along with some colorful poplars. I like willows, but they should be kept a safe distance from concrete, bulkheads, and other foundations imho. Just please - no crape myrtles and palm trees!
THis is great news though!
nice. just let hope someone keeps them watered!
Eucalyptus trees anyone?
Quote from: fsujax on May 18, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
nice. just let hope someone keeps them watered!
Yeah, I have to agree. Hopefully they can be maintained or they'll just end up like many of the other added trees and bushes.
Strider said
OK, so do we need 75 more trees in the park, a park that hopefully will get redone as it has other issues? Are we just planting trees to plant trees or for a purpose? Are there better and more in need places to plant these trees? Though I would agree that it would be cool if it was part of the remediation.
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Ok Joe you can sit down I am agreeing with you and no one need worry about water. Trees have not been able to "hold" their ground in this park with the exception of those along the road. The land right now may be dry but one good rain and it is water logged. We lost a beautiful large magnolia in the last flood, just keeled over. I love the idea of trees but lets be careful , especially on the ground just beyond the fountain and the ball field.
Good point Chris. Here are some new trees in the area right after Tropical Storm Fay.
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ohh yeah, and let's not forget some cypress
well played, Σ. well played.
More of a general "Jax tree question", but why arent there more palm trees planted in the Jax area? I love 'em, and if you travel just a bit further south, even into Palm Coast, they use them much more in landscaping. Meanwhile we seem to just rotate crate myrtle, live oak and cypress.
Springfield was loaded with palms at the turn of the 19th/20th century. Main and Hubbard were lined with rows of palms and there were many specimens in the park and around the Waterworks building.
It was swampy back then, too - maybe palms would work well there.
St Aug, you may want to hush that talk. You'll stir up a wave of anti-palm rants.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on May 18, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
St Aug, you may want to hush that talk. You'll stir up a wave of anti-palm rants.
Check, so we are anti-sprawl and anti-palms. I think we are also anti-chains. Does this about cover it?
I loves me some Cherry Blossom trees.
I love palms...you should see my back yard...queen palms, pindo and washingtonian palm! beautiful
I think Clay Yarborough may have about 40 palm trees ...
LOL! i dont have any sabal palms.....
Quote from: Captain Zissou on May 18, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
St Aug, you may want to hush that talk. You'll stir up a wave of anti-palm rants.
I hear ya. I'm not anti-palm. I just think that Jacksonville goes way overboard with their use (crape myrtles too). Jacksonville is not Miami - more like lower Georgia. And last I looked, palms don't provide much shade. The further south you go, the more abundant they are because they are tropical.
I'd much rather look at more colorful trees that provide some shade than palms. I enjoy driving down streets with a live oak canopy shading the way. That's all. Save the palms for the patio by the pool.
Quote from: fsujax on May 18, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
I love palms...you should see my back yard...queen palms, pindo and washingtonian palm! beautiful
My yard also.
I don't get the anti palm mentality on here. Jax will never look like Miami no matter how many palms they plant. Miami has royals, coconuts, fox tails and many others that will not survive the winter here. We will never have that tropical look which is ok. If anything crape myrtles are the one tree that over used up here way too much. Some bottle brush trees would look nice especially in bloom. I believe river birch and bald cypress can survive flooding.
^ I concur - and I really like the river birch as well.
Miss Fixit there were not Palms in those parks at the end of the 19th century, Cypruss ponds. the parks were filled until c 1905/6. In the Streets yes
Those are some nice shots. Palms are majestic.
I'm not sure if we really have much say in just what free trees CSX is going to plant. However, it would be nice to have trees that are native to the area.
Any idea of where the trees will be planted within the park and could planting location be coordinated to form and shape certain types of spaces?
Stepehen, thanks for posting the pics. Those Washingtonian Palms in the top picture look great! Henry Flagler loved his palms as well. He planted them all around the historic Jacksonville Terminal.
I think the Washington palms look good there, especially when they are mature.
Quote from: thelakelander on May 19, 2010, 07:31:28 AM
Any idea of where the trees will be planted within the park and could planting location be coordinated to form and shape certain types of spaces?
I sent an email to Pamela Ilnicki at CSX yesterday asking several questions about the trees, pending response. She is listed as the coordinator for the volunteer planting effort. If she doesn't have the answers, hopefully she will forward to someone who does.
How did u get her email?
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on May 19, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
How did u get her email?
I think I followed the link to volunteer for the event and it was listed to contact her.
ok great
It would be great to leave the spot for the soccer field. There used to be pick up games for the kids on Saturdays. Do we still do them?
People complain about Palm Trees, but crepe myrtles are way over planted here. They are pretty when they bloom though.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on May 21, 2010, 10:51:08 PM
People complain about Palm Trees, but crepe myrtles are way over planted here. They are pretty when they bloom though.
Totally agree, but for 3 months out of the year they look like dead sticks.
Uggh, I really can't stand crepe myrtles!!
In anticipation of the tree planting, the Springfield block captains have scheduled a cleanup of Hogan's Creek in Klutho Park for Saturday, June 5th at 10 am.
The plan is to meet at the parking lot at 6th and Hubbard and then head over to the creek/park near 4th and Boulevard.
Bring waders if you have them!
Quote from: Miss Fixit on May 26, 2010, 07:46:05 AM
In anticipation of the tree planting, the Springfield block captains have scheduled a cleanup of Hogan's Creek in Klutho Park for Saturday, June 5th at 10 am.
The plan is to meet at the parking lot at 6th and Hubbard and then head over to the creek/park near 4th and Boulevard.
Bring waders if you have them!
Do you have to live in springfield to participate?? I'd love to help.
All willing hands are welcomed! We often have non-resident church groups or other volunteer organizations join our clean-ups and we appreciate them all. Join us!
Klutho Park belongs to the entire city of Jacksonville - please join us for the cleanup on June 5th if you're able - we need and would appreciate your help!
A lot of the really tall Washingtonian Palms in the city were killed by the severe winters of the late 70s.
Can someone tell me if anything's being done about the Fire Ant situation here?? My wife & I (with our kid) were meeting some people from outta town over at the park (with their kid) & it was literally swarming with them, esp around the 3rd street section of the park. We didn't end up going in.
Its not a new thing either. I've noticed them month after month over there, its just this time was really really bad. I know its FL & these things are sorta everywhere, but I've never seen them this consistently bad at any other parks in town.
you could file a CARE request with the city..................not sure what else to do...contact SPAR???
has anyone ever tried this?
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-kill-fire-ant-beds-naturally-171304/
Quote from: finehoe on May 27, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
A lot of the really tall Washingtonian Palms in the city were killed by the severe winters of the late 70s.
Are the Washintonian palms more susceptible to cold? or was that just the result?
Quote from: St. Auggie on June 02, 2010, 09:09:32 PM
Are the Washintonian palms more susceptible to cold? or was that just the result?
They're hardy to the mid-low 20's, and this past winter was the coldest since 78-79, when a lot of those palms suffered damage. Any of those that survived that and Jan. 21, 1985, coldest ever for much of the South, will have trunk constrictions marking the event.
Overall though, they're hardy for our region as we are mainly zone 9A, but you of course have microclimates of 8B/8A and 9B just in the city of Jax alone.
Many palm are able to withstand temps lower than they're suggested hardiness for only brief periods. It is when the daytime highs don't recover enough or if the cold spell lasts a while, like this past winter.
Why aren't they using our native palms instead of Washingtonian?
Quote from: stephendare on May 21, 2010, 04:49:38 PM
Stephen,
Thank you for your interest in our Trees for Tracks Jacksonville tree planting date.
We look forward to planting trees in historic Springfield on June 3 from 1-3pm in Klutho Park.
We will be planting:
13 live oak
11 holly
20 cypress
5 little gem magnolia
20 multi stem crepe myrtle
6 single stem crepe myrtle
Thank you.
CSX is donating the trees listed above - no palms at all.
Cypress trees! +1!
Live Oak! +1!
Crepe Myrtles....-1
The crepe myrtles are looking pretty good right now so it's hard for me to be a hater - I agree cypress are an excellent choice for this location.
Yay cypress trees!! They need to be planted more.
^completely, totally, indubitably, and without question--you are correct.
When cypress trees are planted in the right conditions, mostly damp soil, they grow faster than slash pines. Handsome form too.
I participated in the CSX tree planting project today - it was a great event with lots of volunteers.
75 large live oaks, magnolias, hollies, crepe myrtles and cypress were planted, fertilized, mulched and watered. CSX contract with the company providing the trees includes maintenance for the next year, along with a guarantee that all the trees will survive or be replaced.
The transformation of the park along boulevard between the old public health building and 3rd street was amazing - instant gratification!
Springfield was very fortunate to be the beneficiary of this project.
And the cypress - which were planted in the muckier part of the park close to Hogan's Creek - should do well.
Quote from: sheclown on June 02, 2010, 08:58:03 PM
has anyone ever tried this?
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-kill-fire-ant-beds-naturally-171304/
That may work with individual beds, but it would take FOREVER to do this at the park since they're scattered all over.
I honestly think the park should close for a couple days while some exterminating team comes in & just totally destroys then treats every ant mound in site.
I wouldnt feel comfortable letting my kid play here the way it currently is.
It was a hot day and my body was grateful for a cold shower afterward but you can accomplish a lot with a bunch of determined sweaty people.
Post any pics if you have them.
I think I'll pass by on my way home.
Story and pics.
http://myspringfield.org/people-and-places/4-general/50-100-new-trees-in-klutho-park/?time=1275661716 (http://myspringfield.org/people-and-places/4-general/50-100-new-trees-in-klutho-park/?time=1275661716)
So they didn't stake that field of Bald Cypress?! They'll all be blown at whatever angles in a good thunderstorm.
Trees need watering. They're not doing so well in this heat.
Come to Riverside and take the water bags off of all the trees that have been planted around here. Neither Davis or the City is filling them anyway so no harm will be done.
Pray for rain!
Trees must go on sale in the summer, seems like every new tree planted in Springfield is always in the middle of summer, when everyone knows this is the worst time to plant trees.
Yeah, the crape myrtles that were planed all through the neighborhood arent doing to well, at least on my side. If they would have put one in front of my house I would at least water it. Some people just let them die.
Quote from: Springfield Chicken on June 03, 2010, 05:33:54 PM
It was a hot day and my body was grateful for a cold shower afterward but you can accomplish a lot with a bunch of determined sweaty people.
Bad time of year to be planting trees about 4 months too late. Be surprised if any survive
This should've been done in March, at the latest.
Is there water available? Can someone water them once or twice a week until the rains come again?
Just pump the water out of the pond? I wish they would plant some tall washington palms.
Did a landscape architect help plan the planting of these trees out? I hope so.
Quote from: TheProfessor on July 26, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
Just pump the water out of the pond? I wish they would plant some tall washington palms.
Wahington's aren't native to Florida. Plant Sables, the State Tree!
Quote from: Dog Walker on July 26, 2010, 03:42:20 PM
Plant Sables, the State Tree!
They are WAY over-planted as it is.
Sables are fugly. Washington palms remind me of Cali when they tower over you.
Sable is beautiful! (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.) LOL!
Tough native plant that survives hurricanes and drought while providing berries for the birds and nests for the doves (and palmetto bugs and rats).
Henry Flagler loved Washies! he planted them all the around the Jacksonville Terminal, I think only a one or two may still exsist today.
And the first magnolia has met its untimely death, snapped off at the base and now laying on the city right of way waiting for yard waste mgmt to pick it up.