I figured with all the negativity floating around after the draft this would be a welcomed sight. Per Jaguars.com the ticket office is on the verge of announcing an all time high on new season ticket accounts in the offseason. They should be above the 8,800 new accounts started in 2003, which was the previous high when they update this Thursday. Let's not forget that it's not even May 1st yet, which Prescott is quoted as saying..."We are just at the start of the selling season". With that in mind it looks like we are well ahead of the curve.
I have my seats and can't wait for Sept. 12th to get here.
http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=8917 (http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=8917)
The fuel gauge generaly updates on Thursday Afternoons. Considering that they are reserving 8K per game for Group Sales, that leaves about 12,000 seats to sell. Even if they don't sell out on a season ticket basis, they will probably do half-packs. Either way, I'm cofident we get to the magic number.
http://www.jaguars.com/fuel/
The local business community is behind the team more than ever before. I feel confident as well.
Maybe I'm naïve, or just a hopeful optimist, but I really feel like we could be looking at far fewer (maybe no) blackouts than many might expect this season. I'd be VERY surprised if we're "that" team again this year with regard to low attendance. That said, so many columnists have invested so much time & venom into the Jags moving to LA smear campaign, that it may be a tough stigma to shake for a while - just not worth writing about. While the draft initially left me deflated, I am slowly getting over it & it really appears that we're looking at a "fresh" team on the defensive side - and could they really get any worse? If they start revamping the secondary, we may only be able to count the carryovers from last season on half a hand. I still have a hunch that they have one more "impact" move up their sleeve before training camp - I hope so as like it or not, there are plenty of fans that are expecting the team to look for a pseudo mulligan. With the exception of MJD, we still lack star power; even familiar faces that the city identified with (there were SO many with the 90's Jags). I will continue to give Sims-Walker credit, though - he was on the news yet again spontaniously tweeting his "fans" & treating them to Dave & Buster's last night. This is at least the second time he's done this - he picked up the movie tab for everyone that showed up a few weeks ago. I have to respect the effort - regardless of the motives. Maybe it's time we had a diva on the field. Hope his on-field play backs up his personal push into the limelight this season. The only thing that really sucks is that I'm going to have to skip a season of Madden because I can't stomach the thought of seeing Tebow on the cover in Broncos gear.
Glad to hear all the great programs & incentives are paying off! How great would be to sell out the blackout number with season ticket holders... while other teams struggle we can be removed from the conversation.
I think this is MSW's fourth night of taking fans out. There were at least two movies and a bowling night before the D&B night.
I don't think we'll shake the stigma anytime soon, even if the blackouts are lifted this year (which I expect will happen) and other teams are blacked out (a near given with Tampa, Oakland, Detroit and maybe others). There were sportswriters referring to the stands as being "empty" in Jacksonville and making LA smear comments even with the near-miss blackouts in 2007 where there were 64,000 people in the seats. Already sportswriters are writing entirely speculative columns saying not taking Tebow = no increase in sales, even though the season ticket base is already significantly larger than last year's; and I've at least twice seen in national publications/websites that we're "giving tickets away," based on nothing. Certain writers have just had a vendetta against Jacksonville for some years since they were embarrassed over getting the 1993 expansion campaign all wrong, or were offended that they weren't sufficiently pampered with the 2005 Super Bowl. And many of them are just lazy and can collect a paycheck writing inane, tired jokes about a smaller market in the South regardless of their veracity.
Winning will eventually cure everything and Gene Smith is doing it the right way. If you haven't had a chance to read about, hear on the radio or even meet some of the players he has brought in over the last two seasons then I can promise you you would be proud to have a GM who values character and rewards good guys with the opportunity to play in the NFL.
As a life long Jacksonville resident and die-hard Jags fan I am so proud of this franchise as the face of our City. Here's to a great 2010 and all the haters will just have to miss out on something speacial.
From a waiting list of 100K to risk of blackouts. Wonder if the media will start talking about the LA Bucs
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece (http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece)
"Based on where we're at today," Glazer said, ". . . realistically, we are staring at having games blacked out in our local market. I bring that up because I don't want people to be surprised when they get to September and . . . the game is not on TV. It's not what we want.
-->Wayne Weaver made almost an identical statement last year about this time, and he was absolutely skewered for it by the media.
At one point last season, although maintaining the games were indeed sold out, the Bucs had an actual attendance of less than 50,000 in the 65,890-seat stadium. Glazer said the team distributed thousands of tickets to local sponsors and charitable groups to avoid local television blackouts.
--> Something the Jaguars used to do earlier in the decade.
In an effort to increase ticket sales, the Bucs have lowered prices for next season. Tickets start as low as $35 per seat per game, and youth tickets are $25. But so far, nothing has worked.
--> They're all but giving away tickets.
Lest we forget the ACC Championship Game... taken from Jacksonville amid ridicule.
How about on a beautiful Tampa day in 2008?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/2008ACCCGMostly_empty_stands.JPG
Don't even get started looking at attendance for Rays games when they aren't playing Boston or NY
Jacksonville has a lot of problems with ticket sales, etc. I say none of this to shift the focus from what we as a community need to do to support the Jaguars, but the free pass Tampa gets is really amazing..
Quote from: JagFan07 on April 27, 2010, 03:54:25 PM
From a waiting list of 100K to risk of blackouts. Wonder if the media will start talking about the LA Bucs
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece (http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece)
I guess they are moving to LA next huh? It is so sad that the NFL and media threw us under the bus, and everyone else is having the same problem this year, and out ticket sales are on the rise. I wish they would just leave jacksonville alone.
Quote from: Basstacular on April 27, 2010, 03:48:16 PM
Winning will eventually cure everything and Gene Smith is doing it the right way. If you haven't had a chance to read about, hear on the radio or even meet some of the players he has brought in over the last two seasons then I can promise you you would be proud to have a GM who values character and rewards good guys with the opportunity to play in the NFL.
As a life long Jacksonville resident and die-hard Jags fan I am so proud of this franchise as the face of our City. Here's to a great 2010 and all the haters will just have to miss out on something speacial.
Me too. I am not from Jacksonville but love it and stand up for it constantly, and that is the reason I root for the Jaguars. It's incredibly gratifying that the team I back for reasons of geography has so many first-class employees, and that extends the owner, front office, and ticket office. I doubt there is another franchise in pro sports that gives more of itself to its fans.
I don't think the NFL has thrown the Jaguars under the bus. By and large I think the league has been very good to Jacksonville. Giving us the team was a huge leap of faith that, honestly, hasn't really paid off. Giving us the Super Bowl was awesome, but in all honesty rather laughable. Look at the typical sites: New Orleans, Miami, Phoenix, and then ask if you were someone from Chicago or Seattle, would you rather go to a Super Bowl in New Orleans or Jacksonville?
Overall the NFL has been good to Jacksonville. The national football media, not so much. But the problem is our own making. If the butts were in the seats and the tarps were off the upper deck, there wouldn't be any bad national press about our ticket sales...
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 27, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
Jacksonville has a lot of problems with ticket sales, etc. I say none of this to shift the focus from what we as a community need to do to support the Jaguars, but the free pass Tampa gets is really amazing..
Of course, blackouts were routine for the Bucs through most of the 80s and up to the mid-90s. Vic Ketchman also noted that in their inaugural season, they sold more than 40,000 tickets for only one or two games, so even the honeymoon effect didn't help them much at the time. Of course, the NFL's economic model has changed such that Jacksonville's one year of bad ticket sales has a more profound effect than the Bucs' and Cardinals' and Falcons' and Bengals' years and years of blackouts and 30,000-ish in the stands in the 80s and/or 90s. Or the golden boy Patriots' 1992 season where the season ticket base was something like 17k.
But lazy sportswriters have been to Busch Gardens and don't even realize that Jacksonville has a beach, so Jacksonville is the poster child in the press for ticket sales problems rather than Tampa. And just watch, even if the Jaguars avoid blackouts all year (highly possible) and the Bucs experience multiple blackouts (likely), that trend will probably continue. The vast majority of sportswriters don't care for research and care even less for correcting their casual errors.
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 27, 2010, 04:08:54 PM
I don't think the NFL has thrown the Jaguars under the bus. By and large I think the league has been very good to Jacksonville. Giving us the team was a huge leap of faith that, honestly, hasn't really paid off. Giving us the Super Bowl was awesome, but in all honesty rather laughable. Look at the typical sites: New Orleans, Miami, Phoenix, and then ask if you were someone from Chicago or Seattle, would you rather go to a Super Bowl in New Orleans or Jacksonville?
Overall the NFL has been good to Jacksonville. The national football media, not so much. But the problem is our own making. If the butts were in the seats and the tarps were off the upper deck, there wouldn't be any bad national press about our ticket sales...
Yeah I agree. Then too, other teams have experienced the same problems in the past and nothing was said. But I think that our ticket sales woes and the big "LA move" rumors all came together at the wrong time. I can not afford to buy season tickets, but I am planning on buying individual games tickets and attending some games. We dont support our team, who else will? Go JAGS!!!!!!
The NFL likes not having a team in LA. Gives them leverage. I was 12 and in the stands of the old Gator Bowl when Irsay was courting Jacksonville to relocate the Colts. Even then they were using LA for leverage.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=RA0OAAAAIBAJ&sjid=UnwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4339,351206&hl=en (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=RA0OAAAAIBAJ&sjid=UnwDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4339,351206&hl=en)
even back then the media was cruel to good ole Cowford.....er I mean Jacksonville! Go Jags! i got my season tickets. do you have yours?
The negative press and speculations of other pundits may actually have served us. Jacksonville loves jacksonville some football. People are buying.
I'd bet we have fewer than three blackouts this season. Perhaps even zero.
The press will do what they do, but our stadium will be fuller than many.
Quote from: JagFan07 on April 27, 2010, 03:54:25 PM
From a waiting list of 100K to risk of blackouts. Wonder if the media will start talking about the LA Bucs
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece (http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article1082399.ece)
Man...the comments following that Tampa Bay article read eerily like stuff you see on jacksonville.com. Win and we'll come, put a quality product on the field, etc. Didn't they win a Super Bowl?
I absolutely LOVE having the Jaguars. I try to go to every home game and am planning on hitting an away game this year as well. Having an NFL team is a luxury...and luxuries can be expensive, but this one is well worth it for Jacksonville's long term growth.
See you at the game! Go JAGS!!
~j.
Go JAGS!
Does anyone know if they plan to do any more 'select-a-seat' events?
None scheduled... however mini camp is this weekend and is open to the public. There will be ticket reps at the practice field Saturday and Sunday.
QuoteOverall the NFL has been good to Jacksonville. The national football media, not so much. But the problem is our own making. If the butts were in the seats and the tarps were off the upper deck, there wouldn't be any bad national press about our ticket sales...
After much hemming and hawing, I decided I needed to spend 4500 a year on club seats and parking pass, but my wife and I are thankful for the Jags being here and we derive a lot of business as a result of the Jags being here. We are very thankful and buying 2 seats in the clubs are are mere pittance of our way to show our thanfulness.
Go Jags!!!!
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 27, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
I say none of this to shift the focus from what we as a community need to do to support the Jaguars, but the free pass Tampa gets is really amazing..
Don't forget about teams like Oakland, and Detroit. I'm not really feelin' the NFL commish Roger Goodell right now. To address "Jax's ticket woes" in a NFL meeting; All fine and dandy except one thing....You better make damn sure that Jax is dead ass last in ticket sales!(which it wasn't) What's that to say about Oakland, and Detroit? Please nobody give me any "legacy franchise" BS talk; Numbers don't lie!
...and don't even get me started on the stupid ass overtime "Brett Favre" rule. Can you imagine the first team to kick a field goal in overtime in the Super Bowl, game over right?!!! Nope! The other team can score a TD and win. Stupid! A sportscaster saying....."With the old rules 'team X' would have won the Super Bowl already!" Can you imagine the fan uproar?!!! It wasn't broke, and it didn't need to be fixed. Without saying it, by Goodell making that knee-jerk rule effective, he might as well had called the Saints SB win a fluke. IMO NFL pro football now has an "arena football" feel to it thanks to this dumb rule. Bring back Paul T!!!!!!!...There, I'm done with my anti-Goodell rant.
Quote from: fieldafm on April 27, 2010, 10:09:37 PM
None scheduled... however mini camp is this weekend and is open to the public. There will be ticket reps at the practice field Saturday and Sunday.
Mini camps are a great event. I would also recommend it for anyone with kids. Alot of the players seem to really enjoy signing autographs for the kids.
Quote from: I-10east on April 28, 2010, 01:44:28 AM
Don't forget about teams like Oakland, and Detroit. I'm not really feelin' the NFL commish Roger Goodell right now. To address "Jax's ticket woes" in a NFL meeting; All fine and dandy except one thing....You better make damn sure that Jax is dead ass last in ticket sales!(which it wasn't) What's that to say about Oakland, and Detroit? Please nobody give me any "legacy franchise" BS talk; Numbers don't lie!
...and don't even get me started on the stupid ass overtime "Brett Favre" rule. Can you imagine the first team to kick a field goal in overtime in the Super Bowl, game over right?!!! Nope! The other team can score a TD and win. Stupid! A sportscaster saying....."With the old rules 'team X' would have won the Super Bowl already!" Can you imagine the fan uproar?!!! It wasn't broke, and it didn't need to be fixed. Without saying it, by Goodell making that knee-jerk rule effective, he might as well had called the Saints SB win a fluke. IMO NFL pro football now has an "arena football" feel to it thanks to this dumb rule. Bring back Paul T!!!!!!!...There, I'm done with my anti-Goodell rant.
I'm with you I-10 East...it seems to me Goodell does want that arena football feel, especially when you also consider the "roughing the Brady" rule and other crackdowns on defenses playing defense. I also get a strong impression that Goodell is all about promoting the marquee teams and star players relentlessly, whereas Tagliabue was much more egalitarian and an avatar for Jacksonville.
Personally, I am excited about this upcoming season with the Jags. The Jags along with the many support groups seem to have found a ticket selling combination that is working here in Jacksonville. As many other cities struggle, it appears the local fan base and businesses are getting behind our home team. Blackouts or sellouts, I consider the increased pace of tickets sales a success this season. The Jags can count on about 10 more season tickets holders in about two weeks from me. I’m still trying to convince a few more friends to jump on board so we can all sit together. Anyone want to join in?
~Lee
In spite of no Tebow? He is going to be fine and I wish him the best. All of you gator fans who wanted to threaten the Jags to do what we mandate or else how is that workin for ya?
We are going to get after the QBs this year and I have to say I am excited.
The Jags have Darren Sharper in town today for a visit. He had 9 interceptions last year with the Saints. If we are able to sign him, it would definitely be an upgrade at the Safety position. With him, Kampman at DE, Morrison at MLB and our new tandem at defensive tackle... I think we might be back to playing good Jaguars defense. I look forward to the season. See ya in the Bud Zone
Section 147
I don't think that the Tebow "non-selection" was the core issue last week with fans - rather the way it shook out & the unorthodox reach at pick ten. I think that most feel that the organization left a lot on the table. Denver selecting Tebow simply added insult to injury. Once Spiller was gone, everything happened pretty quick. Given the sense of urgency, the "wait & see" selections don't provide for much gratification in the interim. I really wonder how much second guessing went on Friday morning (if any) - especially by Wayne Weaver. From a business standpoint, there really were only 1.5 "rock stars" that the Jags could have realistically picked up: Spiller and Tebow. The first fixed itself & the latter, well, "wait and see". It goes beyond ticket sales - consider merchandise, endorsements, appearances, etc. Given all of that, as soon as Alualu jerseys are available in kid's sizes, put me down for 1 (my daughter!)...........Go Jags
Quote from: The Ivy on April 28, 2010, 09:13:23 AM
Personally, I am excited about this upcoming season with the Jags. The Jags along with the many support groups seem to have found a ticket selling combination that is working here in Jacksonville. As many other cities struggle, it appears the local fan base and businesses are getting behind our home team. Blackouts or sellouts, I consider the increased pace of tickets sales a success this season. The Jags can count on about 10 more season tickets holders in about two weeks from me. I’m still trying to convince a few more friends to jump on board so we can all sit together. Anyone want to join in?
~Lee
Awsome to hear stuff like this Lee. I sit with a group of 13 friends in section #205 and have the time of my life every game. Keep convincing your friends and lock up those 10 seats brother.
EraserGirl25 on the Jaguar message board, who is also Ohhkristin on this message board, posted this wonderful letter to the Times-Union on the Jag board today:
Jaguars: The importance to Jacksonville
Posted: April 27, 2010 - 3:47pm
Florida Times-Union
Letters from Readers
"I do not know the Jaguars' owners and I do not work for any of their organizations. However, I have served on several local nonprofit boards that have benefited from their generosity.
The citizens of Northeast Florida need to be made fully aware of how much our owner and our team financially support and make a difference in our community every day of the week.
Since 1995, the Weaver family through both their Weaver Family Foundation and their Jacksonville Jaguar Foundation has given back almost $60 million to our community. That number is staggering, but it becomes even more astounding when compared to other NFL teams and to our city's budget.
First, based on my research of publicly filed IRS Form 990s, none of the other 31 NFL owners or their teams has financially given back to their local communities over that time period anywhere close to what the Weavers and the Jaguars have given back to Jacksonville.
Just counting the $12.9 million that the Jaguars Foundation alone has made in charitable contributions leads the next closest NFL team's foundation, the Texans Foundation, by over $8 million.
Second, Jacksonville has never had a private benefactor give back to our community at the financial magnitude and annual consistency that the Weavers and the Jaguars have given back; averaging almost $4 million per year combined.
To put that in context, that is three times greater than our city's Military Affairs Division's annual budget to assist our 238,000 local veterans and active duty service members.
Another amazing fact when analyzing the Weavers' selfless generosity is what they did in 2007. Up to that point, their Weaver Family Foundation had already given back over $20 million to our city.
In 2007, when our economy was entering recession and television blackouts were beginning, the Weavers dug deeper and personally donated $21 million to 38 Northeast Florida nonprofit organizations.
That singular act of giving won the Weavers the 2008 Tocqueville Society Award from the national United Way. So at a time when we stopped supporting our team, the Weavers did the opposite and doubled-down in their support of our city. They believed in us, even though many of us stopped believing in our team.
To lose the Jaguars and the Weavers would be devastating to our local nonprofit community and would increase the burden on local government to fill the void, which we all know it cannot and would not be able to fill.
We are truly blessed to have the Weavers and the Jaguars in Jacksonville because their efforts off the field not only lead by example in the NFL and in Jacksonville, they also lead by miles."
Quote from: Basstacular on April 28, 2010, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: The Ivy on April 28, 2010, 09:13:23 AM
Personally, I am excited about this upcoming season with the Jags. The Jags along with the many support groups seem to have found a ticket selling combination that is working here in Jacksonville. As many other cities struggle, it appears the local fan base and businesses are getting behind our home team. Blackouts or sellouts, I consider the increased pace of tickets sales a success this season. The Jags can count on about 10 more season tickets holders in about two weeks from me. I’m still trying to convince a few more friends to jump on board so we can all sit together. Anyone want to join in?
~Lee
Awsome to hear stuff like this Lee. I sit with a group of 13 friends in section #205 and have the time of my life every game. Keep convincing your friends and lock up those 10 seats brother.
GO JAGS!
What a refreshing thread to read. I am really glad to see such positive things being said about Jacksonville and the Jaguars. Can't wait for the season to begin.
Darren Sharper is in town today to visit the team as a free agent. I really would like to see him in a Jags uniform.
I knows he's 35 and coming off injury but he did have 9 int's last season... with an improved pass rush - new LB core and Cox / Mathis / Sharper in the back I think we could have the most improved defense in the league.
I have a feeling he's not cheap and Dallas is scheduled to meet with him next... and they've got much deeper pockets.
It's not the money that concerns me as much as the number of years he's likely to request that money for. I think WW has shown he'll stroke the check as far as the cash goes, but @ 35 years old.. anything more than a 2 year deal would scare me. Once his legs go, they'll be gone..
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 28, 2010, 01:17:40 PM
It's not the money that concerns me as much as the number of years he's likely to request that money for. I think WW has shown he'll stroke the check as far as the cash goes, but @ 35 years old.. anything more than a 2 year deal would scare me. Once his legs go, they'll be gone..
Agreed. I don't think he's the long term solution but Nelson Carey & Alexander are young and could learn a lot from a guy like Sharper.
Quote from: Shwaz on April 28, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 28, 2010, 01:17:40 PM
It's not the money that concerns me as much as the number of years he's likely to request that money for. I think WW has shown he'll stroke the check as far as the cash goes, but @ 35 years old.. anything more than a 2 year deal would scare me. Once his legs go, they'll be gone..
Agreed. I don't think he's the long term solution but Nelson Carey & Alexander are young and could learn a lot from a guy like Sharper.
+1
If you mean they could learn how to run faster, break on the ball better and read plays better, I doubt it.
Perhaps Reggie could learn that there is some middle ground between lowering your head to your knees, turning into a human missile and hoping you hit the ball carrier VS wimpy slapping at the ball like a 5 year old girl whose bigger sister just took her doll away.
It would not hurt to have him around the other guys, but I don't think their being behind him on the depth chart for a couple years would make their game demonstrably better.
QuoteIf you mean they could learn how to run faster, break on the ball better and read plays better, I doubt it.
no
QuotePerhaps Reggie could learn that there is some middle ground between lowering your head to your knees, turning into a human missile and hoping you hit the ball carrier VS wimpy slapping at the ball like a 5 year old girl whose bigger sister just took her doll away.
yes
Reading formations, packages, how to stay in position and form are things they could learn.
QuoteIt would not hurt to have him around the other guys, but I don't think their being behind him on the depth chart for a couple years would make their game demonstrably better.
Did Nelson play behind veteran Sammy Knight during his rookie year?
I'm not saying let's bring the old guy in just to coach & mentor.. he posted 9 int's last year.. our entire defense had 13.
I know, I mostly kid. I do think the "veteran mentoring the younger player" is rather overrated, at least insofar as helping them skill-wise. They can teach them to be better pros and that they need to prepare and practice better/harder. Perhaps that is all Reggie needs...
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 28, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
I know, I mostly kid. I do think the "veteran mentoring the younger player" is rather overrated, at least insofar as helping them skill-wise. They can teach them to be better pros and that they need to prepare and practice better/harder. Perhaps that is all Reggie needs...
The mentoring aspect is really just a side note. We need production and leadership in the secondary.
I think what Nelson needs most is a pass rush.
Well I signed up for season tickets back in Nov, I am really waiting to see how this defense will pan out. Hopefully Manning's Jersey will have plenty of rips and grass stains on it. :)
The Jaguars updated the Fuel Meter today: it's at 32,460 season tickets sold or renewed to date. That's nearly 1,300 sold in a week. That means that upwards of 1,000 were not directly sold at the "event" over the weekend as that number was reported at around 350. I wonder if those were the fans on the opposite side of the Tebow fence. ??? Probably not likely - But, if they maintained that pace through the summer, they'd exceed the 50k+ needed to fill the general bowl and single game tickets would become a little harder to come by. Imagine! Also missing from that number are the 8,000+ seats that are presumed to be sold by way of corporate partnerships(?). If that holds true, we're looking at ~10,000 to go with 3+ months left - certainly attainable in my opinion. If they manage to lock down another high profile/impact player (a la Darren Sharper) in the interim, I think we're golden. Go Jags.
***UPDATE***
Looks like Darren Sharper & the Jags weren't able to come to an agreement.........
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/04/new_orleans_saints_safety_darr_10.html
Counting the 8000 group sales, Jags are 80% of the way to the blackout avoidance number.
Not counting group sales, they are 64% of the way there.
What's the typical "week of" single game expectation? That may not matter, but I'm really believing that we could be looking at NO blackouts in '10. Too optimistic?
This is from today's Ask Vic column on jaguars.com:
Craig from Malaga, Spain
How good is good on the ticket sales? The thought of losing this franchise is devastating.
Vic: Sales, from what I’ve been told, are steady. The situation is good enough that I detect optimism for the first time in awhile. Don’t, however, discount CFO Bill Prescott’s warning, “We have a long way to go.†Yes, they still have a long way to go, but the current indicators are cause for optimism. I genuinely believe the general bowl is going to be sold out for the start of the season. My concern is for the club seats.
OK - they're up to 34,159 as of today. In addition, there is another indicator on the fuel meter displaying Group/Single game sales - which breaks out to a per game average @ +1,675. Collectively, that jumps them 3,374 in one week! I wonder where the push came from that yielded 1,699 new season tickets sold since last Thursday - mini camp? Go Jags.
Quote from: blizz01 on May 06, 2010, 03:59:14 PM
OK - they're up to 34,159 as of today. In addition, there is another indicator on the fuel meter displaying Group/Single game sales - which breaks out to a per game average @ 1,675. That jumps them 3,374 in one week! I wonder where the push came from that yielded 1699 new season tickets sold since last Thursday - mini camp? Go Jags.
That is a terrific one-week leap forward. Could be a combination of mini camp, post-draft response, the rollout and promotion of Teal Deals, the pending 5/31 deadline for the 30/30 plan, and just momentum that has been building throughout the offseason.
Also, I bought another one, which clearly was highly influential on the community at large :)
Everyone wants to be like Wacca Pilatka. ;D
I was a season ticket holder for 10 years and then didn't renew as my son was entering college and we became very budget conscious. For some reason the wife considers season tickets a "miscellaneous expense".
Anyways, I bought two tickets this week and locked them in for 3 years. With the deals they are giving there are really few excuses left.
Maybe once people realized Tebow wasn't coming here and we might be spared NONSTOP, ENDLESS, FAWNING, WRETCH-INDUCING stories about him and his fundamentalism in the Times Union and local news, they felt comfortable buying some tickets. (And I'm a UF graduate!)
9 of the 10 home games GUARANTEED TEBOW-FREE! ;D
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on May 06, 2010, 08:53:04 PM
9 of the 10 home games GUARANTEED TEBOW-FREE! ;D
Good selling point! ;D
Thinking of actually breaking bread and buying some tickets this year. I'm a Gator fan first, Jag fan second but I would hate to see them move east.
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on May 06, 2010, 08:53:04 PM
9 of the 10 home games GUARANTEED TEBOW-FREE! ;D
At least we're guaranteed one sell out game, then ;)
QuoteI would hate to see them move east.
Hmm - the only way they could move east would be London - that doesn't appear to be in the cards - I presume that you meant west(?).
It's all moot anyway. I predict that they'll sell out everything except the preseason games. Wayne Weaver is NOT going to move the team. Someone else could/would. The concentration/effort will ultimately need to shift toward an ownership group that is commit ed to keeping the team in JAX once Mr. Weaver is ready to step away. Even if we have a packed house every week, there will be wealthy people without ties to this fair city that see viability elsewhere. TODAY, WHO LOCALLY COULD/WOULD RUN THE SHOW IF NOT WAYNE?
Is there a rule in the NFL now that states that a city cant buy a team? I know the city of Green Bay owns the team, I would assume they were just "grandfathered". Otherwise I would imagine most cities would buy their teams.
Quote from: blizz01 on May 11, 2010, 11:04:06 AM
QuoteI would hate to see them move east.
Hmm - the only way they could move east would be London - that doesn't appear to be in the cards - I presume that you meant west(?).
It's all moot anyway. I predict that they'll sell out everything except the preseason games. Wayne Weaver is NOT going to move the team. Someone else could/would. The concentration/effort will ultimately need to shift toward an ownership group that is commit ed to keeping the team in JAX once Mr. Weaver is ready to step away. Even if we have a packed house every week, there will be wealthy people without ties to this fair city that see viability elsewhere. TODAY, WHO LOCALLY COULD/WOULD RUN THE SHOW IF NOT WAYNE?
Yeah I'm an idiot, I meant West LOL. Didn't have enough coffee in me yet, still dragging @ss.
Quote from: blizz01 on May 11, 2010, 11:04:06 AM
QuoteI would hate to see them move east.
Hmm - the only way they could move east would be London - that doesn't appear to be in the cards - I presume that you meant west(?).
It's all moot anyway. I predict that they'll sell out everything except the preseason games. Wayne Weaver is NOT going to move the team. Someone else could/would. The concentration/effort will ultimately need to shift toward an ownership group that is commit ed to keeping the team in JAX once Mr. Weaver is ready to step away. Even if we have a packed house every week, there will be wealthy people without ties to this fair city that see viability elsewhere. TODAY, WHO LOCALLY COULD/WOULD RUN THE SHOW IF NOT WAYNE?
I know former Barnett CEO Charlie Rice once tried to buy a team, pre-Jaguars, but NFL franchises cost a lot less then and he's at least as old as Mr. Weaver. I understand that Tony Boselli has been working on trying to get a consortium of Jacksonville-based investors together.
Quote from: St. Auggie on May 11, 2010, 11:11:56 AM
Is there a rule in the NFL now that states that a city cant buy a team? I know the city of Green Bay owns the team, I would assume they were just "grandfathered". Otherwise I would imagine most cities would buy their teams.
Yes, that's accurate. I think there is a limit on the number of owners a team can have also.
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on April 29, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
This is from today's Ask Vic column on jaguars.com:
Craig from Malaga, Spain
How good is good on the ticket sales? The thought of losing this franchise is devastating.
Vic: Sales, from what I’ve been told, are steady. The situation is good enough that I detect optimism for the first time in awhile. Don’t, however, discount CFO Bill Prescott’s warning, “We have a long way to go.†Yes, they still have a long way to go, but the current indicators are cause for optimism. I genuinely believe the general bowl is going to be sold out for the start of the season. My concern is for the club seats.
"Ask Vic"- 5/11/2010
Jared from Jacksonville
In your opinion, will the Jaguars sell the remaining 15,000 seats to lift the blackouts?
Vic: Yes, I believe they will.
By the numbers from the last update on 5/6/2010
15,123 left to sell in the general bowl
1,675 Group seats sold (team has committed to 8,000)
8,000-1,675 = 6325 more group sales towards the BO number
15,123 - 6,325 = 8,798 Season tickets left to lift the BO
8,798 / 16 weeks left to sell = Approx 550/week
Very feasible!!! Prescott has already gone on record as saying July is typically the best selling month as well.
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on May 11, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: blizz01 on May 11, 2010, 11:04:06 AM
QuoteI would hate to see them move east.
Hmm - the only way they could move east would be London - that doesn't appear to be in the cards - I presume that you meant west(?).
It's all moot anyway. I predict that they'll sell out everything except the preseason games. Wayne Weaver is NOT going to move the team. Someone else could/would. The concentration/effort will ultimately need to shift toward an ownership group that is commit ed to keeping the team in JAX once Mr. Weaver is ready to step away. Even if we have a packed house every week, there will be wealthy people without ties to this fair city that see viability elsewhere. TODAY, WHO LOCALLY COULD/WOULD RUN THE SHOW IF NOT WAYNE?
I know former Barnett CEO Charlie Rice once tried to buy a team, pre-Jaguars, but NFL franchises cost a lot less then and he's at least as old as Mr. Weaver. I understand that Tony Boselli has been working on trying to get a consortium of Jacksonville-based investors together.
Thank God for Boselli, we owe Mr. Weaver first and Boselli second. Go Jags
You'll have plenty of people who will express dislike for the Gators, but just as many fans. I would suggest the Jaguars is a better product and one that certainly needs fan commitment.
Quote from: 66Mustang on May 11, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Thinking of actually breaking bread and buying some tickets this year. I'm a Gator fan first, Jag fan second but I would hate to see them move east.
Do it! Im actually thinking of organizing a tailgate for MetroJax members for one game this fall.
Quote from: fieldafm on May 11, 2010, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: 66Mustang on May 11, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Thinking of actually breaking bread and buying some tickets this year. I'm a Gator fan first, Jag fan second but I would hate to see them move east.
Do it! Im actually thinking of organizing a tailgate for MetroJax members for one game this fall.
That would be great. I'd love to meet everyone from MetroJax. I am in a tailgate group in the Tailgaters Parking lot on Talleyrand, near space J50. But since I'm in Va I only make 2-3 games a year.
Quote from: fieldafm on May 11, 2010, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: 66Mustang on May 11, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Thinking of actually breaking bread and buying some tickets this year. I'm a Gator fan first, Jag fan second but I would hate to see them move east.
Do it! Im actually thinking of organizing a tailgate for MetroJax members for one game this fall.
That is a great idea, count me in as someone that would be there.
I'd go too. btw... Monday night game... Jags bring back the black jerseys (I know what Wayne thinks about too many jerseys) and we all wear black as kind of a shot at the media for all our "blackouts" Thoughts?
Personally the black jerseys are the best looking we have, I am unhappy that they didn't use them last year. I always enjoyed the games with them in their Black Jerseys. Now the white jerseys make me sick, white is an ugly color, nothing really enjoyable about looking at white, especially when they get all dirty.
And you poeple just love to pick on newbies, but I guess that's what newbies are for, lol
Quote from: downtownjag on May 11, 2010, 12:51:24 PM
I'd go too. btw... Monday night game... Jags bring back the black jerseys (I know what Wayne thinks about too many jerseys) and we all wear black as kind of a shot at the media for all our "blackouts" Thoughts?
I'd like to see the black jerseys come back also, but to be honest, I thought that if the Jags did bring them back, last year's Thursday night game against the Colts would have been the best time to bring them back.
I hope that you're right about this year's Monday night game though!
Who are we playing for this years monday night game?
Tennessee Titans.
The black jerseys are gone for good. Weaver wants the team to find an identity using a consistent uniform pattern.
Teal (jersey) & White (pants) at home / White (jersey) & Black (pants) away.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/10/AFCS-Uniform-JAX.PNG/275px-AFCS-Uniform-JAX.PNG)
Personally I like the teal jersey black pants combo and old logos but understand what the team is trying to do.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/AFCS-Uniform-Combination-JAX.PNG/250px-AFCS-Uniform-Combination-JAX.PNG) 2004-2008
Not going to lie, white sucks, but I can deal. I care more about how the Jags play then their uniform. However I have heard the saying, "Even if we suck, at least we look good." We just better not suck, haha.
Yeah I realize Weaver got rid of all the combinations for marketing/branding reasons but I think all black is great once a season. Houston has their "battle red" that they wear; I think it can be a great change of pace and something to get excited about.
Guys, we live in Florida. It is to our advantage to make the opposing team wear darker colored uniforms than the home team. dark clothing absorbs heat. That is the same reason the jaguars have the shaded side of the stadium as the Home Team's side. Other than Houston, most of the teams we play are not use to the hot humid climate here. Make them sweat.
Yeah I forgot how hot it is here in October, at night.
I agree with Black would be cool for the Monday Night Game. Besides Fisher has said that this is their second home stadium, so they should be comfortable in white. ;)
I'm sad to see the black go, but haven't we traditionally had bad luck with it? Hopefully they will still make black fan jerseys!
Quote from: Captain Zissou on May 11, 2010, 03:01:59 PM
I'm sad to see the black go, but haven't we traditionally had bad luck with it? Hopefully they will still make black fan jerseys!
Not always...I think we were 3-0 in black in 2006 (Colts, Giants, Steelers). I know we lost to the Colts in black in '07 and can't recall offhand if we wore black in any other games that year. You can still get a black jersey from the Jaguars team shop or NFL Shop, but it's in the old (pre-2009) fonts and style, of course.
QuoteWith the deals they are giving there are really few excuses left.
Exactly. Plus Weaver/Jaguars have donated over 40 million dollars to the local community. The Players is at 35 in all its time here. Then there are the players, MoJo, Boselli, even Coughlin with his Jay Fund gives back 2 mil a year. If the Jags were not here, who would fill those shoes?
Buy some seats, with the 30 month plan its a deal.
They are currently at just under 35,000 season tickets sold or renewed (over 10,000 NEW). Plus 2,140 in group/single game sales (div/10). Although it seems to have been a slow couple of weeks, they still appear to be on the ~500/week pace needed.
Go Jags.
Haha - Sims-Walker is at it again! I love this guy.
Jags NightsQuoteThey're called "Jags Nights" and they are hosted by current Jacksonville Jaguar receiver Mike Sims-Walker. It's a chance to get together with current Jags players, free of charge, and hang out for an evening of fun. This wouldn't be surprising if it was a photo op orchestrated by the team. But in the case of Sims-Walker, he came up with this idea, sending invitations thru his twitter page, to help create a deeper connection between the team and the fans and get them excited about their team.
You've heard me say before having an NFL team in the city where you live is special. This is another reason why. There are only 32 of us. New season ticket sales crossed the 10,000 mark, but there is much work to be done. Team Teal has come up with great incentives to consider season tickets, but those programs end soon. Let's continue to pull together to make sure the Jaguars call Jacksonville home for years to come.
http://www.news4jax.com/station/23680750/detail.html
Sims-Walker Treats Fans to Food & Fun at Whisky RiverQuoteJACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Mike Sims-Walker is quickly becoming a fan favorite for his generosity off the field.
On his Twitter page, the Jaguars wide receiver invited fans to join him and some of his teammates at Whisky River in the St. Johns Town Center on Wednesday night to watch an NBA Playoff game between the Celtics and Magic.
Sims-Walker picked up the dinner tab for the estimated 100 fans that showed up, and this isn't the first time he's done something like this. He calls these events "Jag Nites," and within the last couple months he has treated fans to a movie, bowling, and other nights of watching basketball games at local restaurants.
If you'd like to attend the next Jag Nite, all you have to do is follow this up and coming star on Twitter. His screen name is @MikeSimsWalker.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/sports/jags/news-article.aspx?storyid=156654&catid=28
That is pretty cool of him to do that.
I think that is great what MSW is doing to connect with the fans, but it makes me wonder why more players don't do that. Shouldn't the players want to connect with their fans in settings other than practice or autograph sessions? I hope to be at the next MSW event.
I think some of the players probably like the privacy or have families. Alualu has two kids and a third on the way.
MSW seems like a guy who likes the interaction.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on May 27, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
I think that is great what MSW is doing to connect with the fans, but it makes me wonder why more players don't do that. Shouldn't the players want to connect with their fans in settings other than practice or autograph sessions? I hope to be at the next MSW event.
Several other players have been present at all the MSW events. I know Osgood and Dillard were there repeatedly, among others. MSW is just the driving force behind them.
And some other players have done community outreach such as when Garrard was tweeting to give away tickets to the first fans to meet him at a particular location last season.
NO TEAM does more community outreach than the Jaguars. I don't think it's even close.
Yeah Sims-Walker is a really amazing guy both on and off the field. Him and the other double name, Jones-Drew, really make the team.
Keep up the ticket sales pace and lets win us some games!
Mike Thomas also has been at these events.
BTW as of today the Jags are 74% of the way to the blackout avoidance number of tickets sold.
http://www.jaguars.com/fuel/
Looks like we only sold about 1k this past week... Need to pick it up.
If they were able to push 1,000 tickets in a week, that's actually REALLY good. The minimum target pace needs to be ~500-600 per week to get to goal.....
Quote from: blizz01 on May 27, 2010, 05:14:46 PM
If they were able to push 1,000 tickets in a week, that's actually REALLY good. The minimum target pace needs to be ~500-600 per week to get to goal.....
585 season tickets sold this week and the group sales avg. went up by over 200.
My coworkers and I are picking up another 6 tickets tomorrow.
Awesome aaa.... Nah, I know 1k is good but with 13k left to go and roughly 13 weeks until the start of the preseason... I would like to have a little cushion in case we have a bad week here or there!
remember...single game ticket sales will also help...and they'll likely go on sale in July
Great for everyone to buy seats, but regardless, I'll be there either way.
11,983 to go. Nearly 77% there! Go Jags.
The city has shown it rallies when pressured. We need to start selling some club seats also.
And, if that anticipated 8k Group Sales number (of which, 2,577 have been sold to date) holds true, we're looking at close to ~6,600 remaining to close out. Then, on to the club seats!
My only concern with group sales is they seem to be using a weighted average. I have heard that the games against Denver, Tennessee and Indianapolis have had higher group sales than games against Houston or Oakland for example. So the blackout number is likely higher for some games.
Regardless of what, we are doing EXTREMELY well and if we keep this all the way to the beginning of the preseasno, will be blackout-less this year, and can let the media take a bite out of that. Im a little poor at the moment, but I plan to buy some single games tickets when they go on sale. So the sales are not over! :)
Quote from: copperfiend on June 03, 2010, 01:45:30 PM
The city has shown it rallies when pressured. We need to start selling some club seats also.
They're going after club sales very aggressively now. The team just announced it is offering additional club seats at half-price to those who already own 2 or more club seats.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 03, 2010, 04:30:22 PM
Regardless of what, we are doing EXTREMELY well and if we keep this all the way to the beginning of the preseasno, will be blackout-less this year, and can let the media take a bite out of that. Im a little poor at the moment, but I plan to buy some single games tickets when they go on sale. So the sales are not over! :)
Single game tickets may actually be tough to find according to this scenario:
http://blackandteal.com/ (http://blackandteal.com/)
QuoteI want to explain something that may be new to you. In the past, we could wait for the mini-packs to come out and pick our favorite 4 home games. If we didn’t want the four games, we waited for the single game tickets and bought the games we wanted to see. Simple, no hassle, no rush. Right?
That isn’t the game Wayne Weaver and the Jaguars want to play anymore and this year might be different. Consider this… what if all but 4,000 seats are sold to season ticket holders? Season ticket holders get first crack at single game tickets. The Denver game? Sold out before you get a chance. The Indianapolis game? Sorry, sold out before you knew what happened. Monday night Titans? Nope, sorry. Philadelphia? Cleveland? Sorry, no tickets, try stub hub. We do have a few left over for Oakland, but you better buy now. You hang up on the ticket office and wonder what happened.
The way things have been are not the way things are going to remain, not if Wayne and Tony have anything to say about it. They want EVERY Jaguar ticket sold before you get a shot at it. Want a ticket? Buy a season ticket, it is your only chance to see the Jaguars. Well, you can always go to the Stadium and get some from “local†vendors. Might pay a bit extra. Might not find 4 together either. Take your chance.
Here are the facts, about 11,000 season tickets remain to be sold. June will sell about 4,000 of them. July is the biggest month traditionally, maybe 5,000 sold. That leaves about 2,000 tickets left. The 48,000 season ticket holders have first bid on those seats. My wife asks me all the time if I got 4 tickets to Denver for her brother and father and friends. They aren’t on sale yet and my never be. I am getting nervous. Yes, Jaguar tickets are becoming hard to get, or are about to become so.
If you were counting on buying them because you always could, you might be surprised. It might not be that way any more. You would be better off right now buying season tickets and selling the games you don’t want than waiting to buy the ones you do. It might be the best route to take. Just guessing and I might be wrong, but I don’t think I am.
Quote from: Shwaz on June 03, 2010, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 03, 2010, 04:30:22 PM
Regardless of what, we are doing EXTREMELY well and if we keep this all the way to the beginning of the preseasno, will be blackout-less this year, and can let the media take a bite out of that. Im a little poor at the moment, but I plan to buy some single games tickets when they go on sale. So the sales are not over! :)
Single game tickets may actually be tough to find according to this scenario:
http://blackandteal.com/ (http://blackandteal.com/)
QuoteI want to explain something that may be new to you. In the past, we could wait for the mini-packs to come out and pick our favorite 4 home games. If we didn’t want the four games, we waited for the single game tickets and bought the games we wanted to see. Simple, no hassle, no rush. Right?
That isn’t the game Wayne Weaver and the Jaguars want to play anymore and this year might be different. Consider this… what if all but 4,000 seats are sold to season ticket holders? Season ticket holders get first crack at single game tickets. The Denver game? Sold out before you get a chance. The Indianapolis game? Sorry, sold out before you knew what happened. Monday night Titans? Nope, sorry. Philadelphia? Cleveland? Sorry, no tickets, try stub hub. We do have a few left over for Oakland, but you better buy now. You hang up on the ticket office and wonder what happened.
The way things have been are not the way things are going to remain, not if Wayne and Tony have anything to say about it. They want EVERY Jaguar ticket sold before you get a shot at it. Want a ticket? Buy a season ticket, it is your only chance to see the Jaguars. Well, you can always go to the Stadium and get some from “local†vendors. Might pay a bit extra. Might not find 4 together either. Take your chance.
Here are the facts, about 11,000 season tickets remain to be sold. June will sell about 4,000 of them. July is the biggest month traditionally, maybe 5,000 sold. That leaves about 2,000 tickets left. The 48,000 season ticket holders have first bid on those seats. My wife asks me all the time if I got 4 tickets to Denver for her brother and father and friends. They aren’t on sale yet and my never be. I am getting nervous. Yes, Jaguar tickets are becoming hard to get, or are about to become so.
If you were counting on buying them because you always could, you might be surprised. It might not be that way any more. You would be better off right now buying season tickets and selling the games you don’t want than waiting to buy the ones you do. It might be the best route to take. Just guessing and I might be wrong, but I don’t think I am.
Wow. That is a VERY possiable scenerio this year. I want to go to a few games, but if that happens, so be it. As long as they get sold, that is fine with me. I will sit home on the couch with my jaguar fuzzy hat and jersey and route for the black and teal!!
This is the start of the final push to sell out the stadium via season tickets and group sales. Spear the word and encourage everyone you know to support the Jags.