It happened at 1561 West 6th St. in Downto..., no wait a minute, Durkeeville? As in College Park? Like right next to Edward Waters College, which is way up Kings Road on the other side of I-95, and a long way from what is commonly known as Downtown Jacksonville?
The Media tells it thus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFnjR19eKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFnjR19eKw)
All the television news viewer hears is Downtown, Downtown, Downtown. It doesn't matter that this incident happened miles away from the Core, and what is generally considered to be Downtown.
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/feederi/DURKEEVILLE.jpg)
Years ago, before I wrote off Downtown Vision Incorporated as a worthless, money wasting organization, I would call it's executive director, Terry Lorince, every time the media attributed another atrocity to 'Downtown". Well, here we are today, and nothing has changed (other than the addition to Downtown of some Charley Brown hanging baskets and silly rah-rah stickers stuck on everything). After all this time, nothing has been done to effectively change even the Media's perception of Downtown Jacksonville.
Now, I was impressed with the contents of the recent DVI white paper Turning the Corner: Rethinking and Remaking Downtown http://downtownjacksonville.org/_images/_documents/Turning%20the%20Corner%20_%20Rethinking%20and%20Remaking%20Downtown%20FINAL%20low%20res.pdf (http://downtownjacksonville.org/_images/_documents/Turning%20the%20Corner%20_%20Rethinking%20and%20Remaking%20Downtown%20FINAL%20low%20res.pdf). I even attended last Wednesday's meeting that DVI called. Through the paper, DVI appears to finally acknowledge the complaints that property owners, residents, and merchants have been making for years.
There may yet be hope for DVI, by starting with the little things:
I suggest to DVI that someone from their office get on the phone this morning, call WTEV, and tell them that College Park / Durkeeville is not Downtown Jacksonville, and has nothing to do with Downtown Jacksonville, other than providing night lodging for some of the bums that spend the day in Hemming Park. Additionally, DVI must insist that WTEV make a clarification with it's next news broadcast. Additionally, WTEV must refrain from calling the entire area north of San Marco and south of the Trout River "Downtown", and use the correct name for whatever area they are reporting on.
DVI, give this a shot, and then let's see if you are up to bigger projects.
For whatever it's worth, ActionNew's web article now correctly lists the area as "Northwest Jacksonville." I guess someone bothered to do a little fact checking after the original report aired.
Also, Channel 4 and the Times Union correctly reported Northwest Jax. FirstCoastNew just listed the address and didn't mention a neighborhood.
Regardless, a women was decapitated. Pretty crazy. Apparently the body was found in her house, and the head was found in an empty lot owned by Edward Waters College.
I had drove by both the crime scenes (down Tyler St.) not knowing what was going on at the time. How awful, and tragic!
The Jax media does not know this city period. The only areas that they probably know are the upscale areas of the city where they live. You'd think that someone would have been working at those stations long enough to correct obvious erroneous infomation. Hmmm, no parking meters here, is it DT?
QuoteHmmm, no parking meters here, is it DT?
That's very funny.
I have lived in DT since 2007 and have no idea where these places are...
Having spent three days at the city marina Downtown for the Jacksonville Boat Show I listened to many discussions regarding "downtown". Nothing positive.
I do not consider that area as "downtown". I was actually upset when the news said that. They do that quite often when reporting. That area more consider the Northside than downtown.
Quote from: north miami on April 26, 2010, 09:40:45 AM
Having spent three days at the city marina Downtown for the Jacksonville Boat Show I listened to many discussions regarding "downtown". Nothing positive.
maybe you should listen to some of the visitors at the Hyatt and The Landing.
in fact, I had 3 people visiting this weekend from Atlanta who had never been here....they loved being able to sit outside at a restaurant on the river and watch sports on big screen TVs!
Jax has grown to the point were "quadrant" names like Southside, Westside, Northside, Downtown are way too general in describing an area. Our neighborhoods can change drastically in just a block or two and broad geographic names are not very useful.
Most reporters to town, especially for television, are here only a year or two and never seem to grasp the character of the areas they report from (as if they really cared!). Listening to them mangle local geographic names is a good clue to their local incompetence. The quadrant names are about as much local geography as they are capable of comprehending. Of course, the broader the geographic name, the more viewers tune in to see how "close to home" the crime of the day is. It's all about eyeballs.
The only station that seems to do an ok job with geography is WJXT. All the others, especially Action News, screw it all up.
Mother beheaded by her son. They have a special place in hell for him!
www.news4jax.com/news/23264007/detail.html
If the city and cities business groups would place signs at the neighborhood entries, it would make things much easier. For example a standard size and color (purple!) sign, then each neighborhood can label in letters X high, and in any color or design they choose.
If the same crime happened in MUCH LARGER Los Angeles, Paramount wouldn't accept Lywood's blame, Lynwood wouldn't hear of Comption, who would deny Watt's, none of which can stand Bellflower, City Of Industry, or Hawaiian Gardens! The new's WOULD get it right.
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The whole thing sounds like a David Lynch movie.
Quote from: braeburn on April 26, 2010, 04:22:25 AM
I have lived in DT since 2007 and have no idea where these places are...
Jaxis a very big city many barely leave the area they live at. This is crazy news though. Someone was trying to make a point.
I heard on the radio that the woman's son had been arrested for the crime.
Hate crime?
Funny how the OP turned this heinous crime into a discussion about downtown getting a bad rep due to incorrect reporting.
Is hate not a form of passion.
If a crime committed to change future behavior is a hate crime, I'm guessing the victim's behavior will be a-changin'.
But sorry... wrong thread.
RIP, and let us hope the son finds peace and forgiveness, after he is summarily executed.
Sounds like it to me... :o
Quote from: JC on April 26, 2010, 03:44:01 PM
Funny how the OP turned this heinous crime into a discussion about downtown getting a bad rep due to incorrect reporting.
+1 True which disgusts me a bit.
I hope this guy burns for what he did to her.
The thing that struck me was seeing the whole family on TV coming out in support of the son. And not a tear for the mother. Makes me wonder about the mother and the whole background ... although nobody deserves to be decapitated.
I dunno ... Guess the boy lost his head.
Quote from: Cricket on April 26, 2010, 09:31:25 PM
The thing that struck me was seeing the whole family on TV coming out in support of the son. And not a tear for the mother. Makes me wonder about the mother and the whole background ... although nobody deserves to be decapitated.
I dunno ... Guess the boy lost his head.
Yea that does make you wonder about the entire family as a whole.
btw, Horrible pun man lol.
I agree with JC. I had brought up the news errors on my first post as a minor sidenote thinking that was gonna be the end; Then on my second post, I put in the mother/son link, and after that people were STILL talking about the damn directions!
After 911 I said that I wasn't gonna be shocked by anything else, but I truly found this shocking a son beheading his mother. This is stuff that you often hear about in Arab countries, not the USA.
Forget about the location; a brutal, senseless murder/killing of a human life, and the scenario of Son killing Mother is strange, lewd, and lavicious to say the least. "My Mother is in a better place;" sounds like she didn't care anything for the Mother, so, something sinister happened along the way, i.e., in these children's past and upbringing between the Mother and her Children, especially the Son who killed her; maybe drugs, sexual molestation, etc., you just never know these days.
Heights Unknown
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 26, 2010, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: north miami on April 26, 2010, 09:40:45 AM
Having spent three days at the city marina Downtown for the Jacksonville Boat Show I listened to many discussions regarding "downtown". Nothing positive.
maybe you should listen to some of the visitors at the Hyatt and The Landing.
in fact, I had 3 people visiting this weekend from Atlanta who had never been here....they loved being able to sit outside at a restaurant on the river and watch sports on big screen TVs!
The City Dock Boat Show was created by a person from Colorado who happened to be simply driving through Jacksonville-he was so enthralled by Downtown Jacksonville that he made a U-turn,explored and inked a contract with the city.
He too has since faded from the scene.
It saddens me to note not much positive outlook by so many who engage with Downtown.Much of the frustration stems from wonderment over dashed potential.
I could share the theme of the comments-but likely to no avail.
When I was an intern at a district attorney's office during law school I went to an autopsy. A mother had been shot by her son with a shotgun. He stood above her and fired at her head/neck while she slept in bed. The buckshot didn't have time to spread, so you can imagine what that looked like. Apparently she wouldn't allow him to go on his Senior HS Class cruise to Mexico, and he didn't so much care for that parenting decision.
Sometimes you cannot explain things. Some people are just crazy. That's pretty much all you can say and then you have to move on. I would imagine this was probably something similar, a legitimately disturbed child who didn't care for some "ruling" mom made and decided to express his displeasure in a way that sane people find appalling.
The Media and fire have much in common. An irresponsible Media can be as wild and destructive as fire.
The community is very proud of MetroJacksonville, the city's #1 source for news!
Stephen, you better be nice to me, or I will not post my latest video of an individual being blocked into a parking space by a Parking Enforcement vehicle and booted while he sits in his car.
Would this be better: "Woman Decapitated in Downtown Jacksonville Neighborhood!!!"?
I cant believe we are not discussing the two most important subjects here.
The dead woman minus the head
and
someones broken priority queue
We should never underestimate Stephen's appreciation and appetite for Greek Culture.
Cafe Cassandra... has a nice ring to it don't you think?
Quote from: Jerry Moran on April 27, 2010, 02:07:54 PM
We should never underestimate Stephen's appreciation and appetite for Greek Culture.
Cafe Cassandra... has a nice ring to it don't you think?
Could name it "Cafe Glutton, For Punishment"
QuoteThe only station that seems to do an ok job with geography is WJXT. All the others, especially Action News, screw it all up.
I watch WJXT in the morning while I run on the treadmill, Spanos is the worst at reporting, she falls in the lazy category regarding the westside, southside, northside, and southside. All you have to do is spend 150 bucks on a new wall map and get an updated listing of the neighborhoods. Will someone tell Spanos her clothes are too tight? She needs to get on the treadmill herself.
When the pizza delivery person was killed west of Cassat Avenue, the TU had the audacity to report it as Murray Hill, Idiots! Murray hill stops at Cassat. The quality of journalism is sad and getting worse, people think they can live by google maps. Its pathetic.