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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: fsujax on March 23, 2010, 02:53:02 PM

Title: Parking Signage
Post by: fsujax on March 23, 2010, 02:53:02 PM
I saw a horizontal parking sign mounted on the side of the Ed Ball Building today. It is on the Monroe St side facing the Federal Courthouse Building. Seems like someone is figuring this out. It lights up at night. Hopefully, lake will post the picture I sent him, since I do not know how to post pictures.
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Doctor_K on March 23, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
Three cheers!  About bloody time this started happening!!
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: thelakelander on March 23, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
Here you go.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Development/Downtown-Construction-March10/COJ-parking-sign/817752042_vVgvJ-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: fsujax on March 23, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
thanks Lake!
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Doctor_K on March 23, 2010, 05:42:59 PM
Why for?

No such thing as modern signage in the core?  Is there that archaic signage law still in place?  No one's ballsy enough to flout that rule in the core?
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2010, 09:52:41 PM
OMG - that is Jacksonville!!!!  I feel like a retarded kid that just completed a lap around the track!
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: hightowerlover on March 23, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
wow i almost feel like paying to park...no wait i dont
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: braeburn on March 24, 2010, 01:50:02 AM
Have I missed something here? :)
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: ChriswUfGator on March 24, 2010, 07:59:30 AM
Well all I see is a sign that would likely be cited for violating the downtown sign ordinance, if it weren't owned by COJ.
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: thelakelander on March 24, 2010, 08:21:06 AM
To be fair, this stuff has been in the works for years.  We made a huge fuss about this when we first started this site four years ago.  A section of our Lighting Laura Street presentation also focused on parking signage.

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/documents/laurast/LightingLauraStupdated0023.jpg)

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/documents/laurast/LightingLauraStupdated0024.jpg)

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2006-may-updated-laura-street-lighting-and-parking-plan

I'm glad to see things progress but it does show how long it takes for concepts and ideas to become reality in Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 24, 2010, 09:29:11 AM
We could use some large signs saying... "Street metered parking FREE after 6PM and on weekends"
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Jason on March 24, 2010, 09:39:29 AM
Stephen's right.  Very nice photoshop work FSUJax!

;D
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: fsujax on March 24, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
I wish I had those skills! haha. On a more serious note, I do not believe the current sign ordinance prohibits signs like these in Downtown.
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Doctor_K on March 24, 2010, 03:29:23 PM
If it doesn't, why are there not any/more?

(not disagreeing with you - merely asking)
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: ChriswUfGator on March 25, 2010, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: fsujax on March 24, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
I wish I had those skills! haha. On a more serious note, I do not believe the current sign ordinance prohibits signs like these in Downtown.

That sign would be prohibited, except by special exception (which they wouldn't grant) if it weren't owned by COJ, as it is of a type that is outright prohibited without one, and it doesn't meet the setback requirements;

QuoteSec. 656.1333.   Signs permitted.
* * *
(f)   Pylon/pole, roof and monument signs: Allowed only by special exception approved by the Downtown Development Authority Review Board using the criteria set forth in subsection (2) of this Section. Unless otherwise provided in the special exception, all pylon/pole signs shall meet the setback requirements of Section 656.1303(i)

Well, that is, unless you're Humana or Modis or Wachovia and they think they're going to make $$$$$$$$ off of you. Then they'll approve an obnoxious 40-foot-high lighted sign plastered on all sides of your building, that you can see for 20 miles in all directions. But Joe Schmoe with his deli, well, he's just outta luck.

So out of luck, in fact, that COJ just went around the whole city randomly fining restaurants and other businesses for violating our arcane sign ordinances, including one small restaurant owner $255 for hanging a banner to advertise his "All U Can Eat Snow Crab" event;

http://www.news4jax.com/news/22780695/detail.html
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: fsujax on March 25, 2010, 08:41:01 AM
well, Starbucks at 11E, Casa Dora, Ivey all have (had) these types of signs. It can be done. It is just that the City doesnt make it easy. I remember talking with Suzanne Jenkins about this many years ago when MJ first started.
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: Doctor_K on March 26, 2010, 05:04:22 PM
Why are there such stringent codes on the books that make it so difficult to have such signage?  What would be the purpose of such an enactment (since we see the results of said enactment clear as day)?
Title: Re: Parking Signage
Post by: urbanlibertarian on March 26, 2010, 06:19:48 PM
Many people view advertising in general as ugly.  I think it's beautiful.