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Urban Thinking => Opinion => Topic started by: NoFxfan on March 21, 2010, 02:32:43 PM

Title: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: NoFxfan on March 21, 2010, 02:32:43 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/22881088/index.html

Man installs nanny cam after noticing a black eye on his son... Catches nanny beating 11 month old child during the day.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 21, 2010, 03:16:23 PM
Scratch one Nanny! 

This video was too hard to watch all the way to the end, I found myself entertaining thoughts of torture, dismemberment, immolation to the Jaguar gods, and drowning, just for sport... After that I would probably kill her.

Thoughts like these are why I stopped my subscriptions to "Happy Nazi Home", "Piranhas Today" and "Euthanasia Weekly Magazines".



OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: LPBrennan on March 21, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
What a horrible creature! I think she needs a long, long spell of taxpayer-supported housing and care...
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: samiam on March 21, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
When I saw that on the news the other night my jaw dropped in disbelief and my wife was in tears and was upset all night. She said she wanted to stand outside the jail and kick her ass when she walked out.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cricket on March 21, 2010, 06:33:16 PM
Always wondered how parents could entrust a five-month old baby to a stranger. I don't give a damn about having to hold down a job, if a woman can't afford to stay at home and be a nurturing mother then don't become a mother. Plus, a webcam can't see every corner of every room so we may not know the extent of what this animal did to this child.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Sportmotor on March 21, 2010, 08:06:23 PM
Murder
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: reednavy on March 21, 2010, 08:13:45 PM
I would kill the bitch and drop her body in the Everglades for gators and/or large birds to feed on.

In other words, murder.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Bostech on March 21, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
In more primitive societies (mostly Europe) mothers get one year maternal leave from work where they can raise child.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on March 21, 2010, 09:31:56 PM
I am ready to grab her by the arm and swing her over the side of something... possibly the side of the Dames Point bridge. And I could only watch the first 20 seconds.  >:(
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Bostech on March 21, 2010, 09:35:32 PM
Another reason not to have nanny. :-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7474758/Baby-boys-who-have-a-nanny-turn-into-womanisers.html
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on March 21, 2010, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: Bostech on March 21, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
In more primitive societies (mostly Europe) mothers get one year maternal leave from work where they can raise child.

Personally, I'd like to be a more primitive society. I took off 1 year because I couldn't think about stuff like that happening to my son. And we couldn't really afford to do it but 'downsized' a lot of stuff we owned to handle that.

And not to turn this into something laughable, but why after reading your other link do I have "Fat Bottomed Girls" in my head?? 8)
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 22, 2010, 01:30:50 AM


      Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear

      And it shows them pearly white

      Just a jackknife has old Ocklawaha, babe

      And he keeps it … ah … out of sight.



      Ya know when that shark bites, with his teeth, babe

      Scarlet billows start to spread

      Fancy gloves, though, wears old Ocklawaha, babe

      So there’s nevah, nevah a trace of red.



      Now on the sidewalk … uuh, huh … whoo … sunny mornin’ … uuh, huh

      Lies a body just oozin' life … eeek!

      And someone’s sneakin' ‘round the corner

      Could that someone be OCK the Knife?



      A-there's a tugboat … huh, huh, huh … down by the river don’tcha know

      Where a cement bag’s just a'droopin' on down

      Oh, that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

      Five'll get ya ten old OCK’s back in town.



Yeah, send he to my place!



OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: uptowngirl on March 22, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
Sick, just sick. I could not watch this. She needs to go away for a long, long time (forever?!). And while I took a very long maternity leave after having my daughter, was lucky enough to work at home, have friends and family to help- I find it very telling that several men on this forum think WOMEN should stay home- it is 2010 boys, and there are a lot of stay at home daddy's (women can and DO make more money than their "other half"). The point that someone should stay home with a newborn is taken, the explicit chauvinism will be cast aside as a mistake....
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cricket on March 22, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
uptowngirl, because it is 2010 doesn't make it natural (and I stress natural) or okay for a woman to drop her newborn and turn around and head out to the workforce regardless of the economic realities of 2010. The problem is not so much the need to have two paychecks in the home as having babies for the pleasure of the moment without any serious forethought as to how they will be cared for. And that goes for both. Some women like to yell "chauvinist" when they should be yelling "vive la difference". ;)

Remember, the baby that was beaten by this stranger is only 5 months old.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: buckethead on March 22, 2010, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Cricket on March 21, 2010, 06:33:16 PM
Always wondered how parents could entrust a five-month old baby to a stranger. I don't give a damn about having to hold down a job, if a woman can't afford to stay at home and be a nurturing mother then don't become a mother. Plus, a webcam can't see every corner of every room so we may not know the extent of what this animal did to this child.
We have found common ground once again, Cricket.

Parents deserve much. Adults should be free to pursue careers, personal successes and riches. Often these things are purchased at the expense of a child, though.

Besides, what greater career, personal success and treasure is there?

La buena vida = family, food, sex, family.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Captain Zissou on March 22, 2010, 10:49:42 AM
That is such a strong baby.  I watched most of the video and that woman tortured the baby.  Full on inhumane torture.  I hope the baby is ok and will not suffer anything long term from this abuse. As for the woman, I would love to see her dismembered, but I'm sure a life sentence is the best we can hope for.  Usually those sorts of things find a way of working themselves out on the prison yard.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: uptowngirl on March 22, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: Cricket on March 22, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
uptowngirl, because it is 2010 doesn't make it natural (and I stress natural) or okay for a woman to drop her newborn and turn around and head out to the workforce regardless of the economic realities of 2010. The problem is not so much the need to have two paychecks in the home as having babies for the pleasure of the moment without any serious forethought as to how they will be cared for. And that goes for both. Some women like to yell "chauvinist" when they should be yelling "vive la difference". ;)

Remember, the baby that was beaten by this stranger is only 5 months old.

Yes, and how does all the blame fall on the mother? I think it is just wrong for ya'll to blame mothers for care or in this case the bad care a child gets. What if both parents are women? What is both parents are men? What if the mother makes more and the father stays home? Why does the father not take some heat for chasing HIS career instead of staying home and ensuring his childs saftey. This incident is horrible, tragic, and you are correct avoidable, but blaming the mother straight out is not only sexist it is obnoxious.  My thoughts and prayers are with the family, I am sure all of them are upset, angry, and blaming themselves enough as is.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cricket on March 22, 2010, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on March 22, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
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Yes, and how does all the blame fall on the mother? I think it is just wrong for ya'll to blame mothers for care or in this case the bad care a child gets. What if both parents are women? What is both parents are men? What if the mother makes more and the father stays home? Why does the father not take some heat for chasing HIS career instead of staying home and ensuring his childs saftey. This incident is horrible, tragic, and you are correct avoidable, but blaming the mother straight out is not only sexist it is obnoxious.  My thoughts and prayers are with the family, I am sure all of them are upset, angry, and blaming themselves enough as is.

You can say I am sexist or anything else. You carried the little creature for 9 months (I don't mean you personally), the least you could do is stick around for a few more. All I am saying is that parents should plan ahead so that chasing a career doesn't take priority over the baby's welfare. No problem with dad staying home or family to take care of the baby but that too is almost always an afterthought after the baby is born.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Dog Walker on March 22, 2010, 02:35:33 PM
The REALLY scary thing is that a lot of mothers and fathers treat their children the same way this baby sitter did.  Has nothing to do with who is taking care of the child or why, but how the child is treated.  Period.

Luckily, babies are tough.  They have rubbery bones and this young the child won't remember anything.

Might give him a lifelong fear of fat blonds though, which would not be a bad thing.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: buckethead on March 22, 2010, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: uptowngirl on March 22, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
Yes, and how does all the blame fall on the mother? I think it is just wrong for ya'll to blame mothers for care or in this case the bad care a child gets. What if both parents are women? What is both parents are men? What if the mother makes more and the father stays home? Why does the father not take some heat for chasing HIS career instead of staying home and ensuring his childs saftey. This incident is horrible, tragic, and you are correct avoidable, but blaming the mother straight out is not only sexist it is obnoxious.  My thoughts and prayers are with the family, I am sure all of them are upset, angry, and blaming themselves enough as is.
I would not place the blame for this abuse on the mother. The Mom paid for a service and was swindled.

This is her worst nightmare. The fault lies with the child abuser. That said, I will not leave my children with paid caretakers.

I also believe that a child suffers to some degree when the mother is a career person. To what degree is debatable. Every choice we make has consequences (good, bad and indifferent)
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Shwaz on March 22, 2010, 03:22:07 PM
Made it 2 seconds... seeing the baby swung by the arm was enough. I can't imagine the parents reaction... wonder if they considered ultra violence before going to the police?
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: buckethead on March 22, 2010, 03:22:56 PM
I did not click the link.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on March 22, 2010, 03:24:15 PM
For most parents it's a very hard decision having your child cared for by someone else, and then tougher to decide who will be the one to care for him. Whether or not you're paying someone, there is a great leap of faith needed to trust your baby with someone else. It doesn't matter if you're doing it at 6 weeks post-partum to return to the workforce or a few years down the road - the reasons can vary, but the anxiety is much the same. (note I said 'most', as I can't speak for anyone who may be out of touch with reality or maternal/paternal instinct)

And I wouldn't necessarily exempt 'unpaid' familial caretakers from this - potential for abuse can be anywhere.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on March 22, 2010, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: Shwaz on March 22, 2010, 03:22:07 PM
Made it 2 seconds... seeing the baby swung by the arm was enough. I can't imagine the parents reaction... wonder if they considered ultra violence before going to the police?
Oh yeah. Dread the thought, but if my husband was involved the police would've been called, but likely by the other party.
Title: Re: What would you do if this was your child?
Post by: samiam on March 22, 2010, 03:31:23 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on March 22, 2010, 02:35:33 PM
The REALLY scary thing is that a lot of mothers and fathers treat their children the same way this baby sitter did.  Has nothing to do with who is taking care of the child or why, but how the child is treated.  Period.

Luckily, babies are tough.  They have rubbery bones and this young the child won't remember anything.

Might give him a lifelong fear of fat blonds though, which would not be a bad thing.

So that's what happened to me. I have the same problem