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Title: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Lunican on March 17, 2010, 09:42:19 AM
QuoteThe St. Joe Company Announces Relocation of Corporate Headquarters to Northwest Florida

Jacksonville, Florida - March 17, 2009 - The St. Joe Company (NYSE: JOE) today announced plans to move its corporate headquarters to its large-scale development project adjacent to the new Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport in Bay County. The new location, surrounded by some of the Company's most valuable land holdings, will enable the Company to build on its real estate and economic development successes in the Northwest Florida region.

St. Joe's new headquarters will be located within Phase I of the Company's West Bay Sector Plan development near the entrance of the new international airport which is scheduled to open in May 2010. The new offices will provide the Company with a location central to its numerous residential communities and commercial properties under development, as well as Company lands slated for new business and development opportunities in the region.

The Company will be consolidating offices from Jacksonville, Tallahassee, Port St. Joe and South Walton County into the new location. Construction of the approximately 50,000 square foot Class A multi-tenant office building is scheduled to begin this summer, with relocation of the Company's headquarters and personnel to be completed by the summer of 2011.

"This move is a very important step in the evolution of The St. Joe Company, and we are excited about expanding our relationships with the people of Northwest Florida," said Britt Greene, President and CEO. "At the same time we are very grateful for our 75-year relationship with the City of Jacksonville. There are many friends and supporters in the area that have played an integral part in the growth and success of the Company throughout the years. We will remain forever thankful for their contributions and support."

"The relocation represents a new phase for our Company where we will be able to closely align our resources in an area that we have been actively involved in developing for the past 12 years," continued Greene. "Furthermore, we expect to capitalize on the many significant business and economic development opportunities that we see emerging as the region continues to evolve into not only one of the nation's top ranked vacation destinations, but one of the nation's newest business and technology corridors."

http://ir.joe.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=452641
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Dapperdan on March 17, 2010, 10:05:46 AM
Doesn't surprise me, I used to work for them before their first downsize. It is a nice building and more architecturally distinct than most DT buildings. We are not loosing alot of people. I think they are down to 1 or 200 workers in that building if that.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 11:30:46 AM
Ed Ball is turning in his grave, probably.  They took a Company with phenomenal assets at virtually no costs and (mis) managed to run it into the ground.

The State's citizens and St. Joe would have been better off if the State arranged, over a period of many years, to transfer the land (originally, about 1 million acres and about 60 miles of fantastic, unspoiled ocean front) to the State as conservation/park/recreation land for its just value.  Florida could have had a northern counterpart to the Everglades or its own version of the Smoky Mountains, Yellowstone, the Rockies, or Shenandoah Valley.  And, the State would save a bundle not having to support the inevitable urban sprawl St. Joe still aspires to bring to its remaining lands.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: fsujax on March 17, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
Yeah I think they have no one left in their corporate office!
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: jandar on March 17, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
So glad I didn't take that offer a few years back to work there.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
P.S. Hope the Ed Ball, Alfred I. and Jessie Ball Dupont charitable trusts don't have too much left locked up in St. Joe stock.  
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Overstreet on March 17, 2010, 11:45:37 AM
Their panhandle developments are way more enviromentally freindly that the rape and pillage they did at Rivertown. Most of their market seems to be over there now.

This might allow Port St Joe to convert to Central Standard time. Back when Ed Ball was around and St Joe had a paper mill in PSJ they had the time line rerouted around the town so PSJ would be on the same time as Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: jason_contentdg on March 17, 2010, 11:48:24 AM
^ It's strange too, because the northern end of the county is till on CST.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 17, 2010, 11:56:48 AM
"Northwest Florida's largest private landowner. St. Joe is primarily engaged in real estate development and sales"

telling quote from the article.  it is my understanding that St. Joe has been getting out of the builiding ownership/managment business for the last 5+ years.  when re-evaluating their earnings, back then, they realized they could make more profits in selling off their buildings, land and land development services than actually owning it.  Basically the head cheeses of St. Joe isn't primarily interested in preping the company for long term goals, but more interested in how much money they can personally earn prior to retirement.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 17, 2010, 11:56:56 AM
A hex be upon them and their increase...

And who comes here to wish me well?
A sweetly-scented angel fell.
She laid her head upon my disbelief
and bathed me with her ever-smile.



OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: billy on March 17, 2010, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on March 17, 2010, 11:56:56 AM
A hex be upon them and their increase...

And who comes here to wish me well?
A sweetly-scented angel fell.
She laid her head upon my disbelief
and bathed me with her ever-smile.


The Bard?


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 17, 2010, 11:56:48 AM
Basically the head cheeses of St. Joe isn't primarily interested in preping the company for long term goals, but more interested in how much money they can personally earn prior to retirement.

Jax, the reason management can screw the stockholders and the company and still look good is because Ed Ball bought most of St. Joe's holdings during the depression at $1 per acre or less.  That is still what it is on the books for.  So, sell one acre for $25,000 to $100,000 and you look like a "genius".  In reality, at today's market, you could be selling it below what it would cost to replace it.  On that basis, you are an "idiot".   Another reason why financial statements don't always tell you the whole story.  Buyer beware.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Coolyfett on March 17, 2010, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: fsujax on March 17, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
Yeah I think they have no one left in their corporate office!

What city are they actually moving to?
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Joe on March 17, 2010, 01:33:54 PM
They are moving about 5 miles outside of Panama City. You can't see it on Google or Bing yet, but they are building a new airport and commercial park on State Road 388 to the north of Panama City.

Basically, St. Joe's business plan has devolved into the following:
Phase One: Spend $300 million on an airport in the middle of nowhere and guarantee to cover Southwest Airlines' losses for providing service there.
Phase Two: ??
Phase Three: Profit

Ostensibly, the idea is that the new international airport will turn the panhandle into a major tourism hub. Then St. Joe will be able to sell expensive vacation homes and have the market cornered on commercial and industrial office space. Over the extreme long term, you'd have to assume that's a pretty solid plan, but I think the question is whether after spending hundreds of millions of dollars on infrastructure St Joe will be in business long enough to reap the rewards. It might just be the company's creditors who are making big bucks of their real estate 40 years from now.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: fieldafm on March 17, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: stjr on March 17, 2010, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 17, 2010, 11:56:48 AM
Basically the head cheeses of St. Joe isn't primarily interested in preping the company for long term goals, but more interested in how much money they can personally earn prior to retirement.

Jax, the reason management can screw the stockholders and the company and still look good is because Ed Ball bought most of St. Joe's holdings during the depression at $1 per acre or less.  That is still what it is on the books for.  So, sell one acre for $25,000 to $100,000 and you look like a "genius".  In reality, at today's market, you could be selling it below what it would cost to replace it.  On that basis, you are an "idiot".   Another reason why financial statements don't always tell you the whole story.  Buyer beware.

Wouldnt GAAP require the assets to be booked at current market value?

My gf used to work in that building, it doesnt house a huge St Joe employee presence anymore.  With the bulk of their work devoted to the Panama City project, it makes sense that they move.  PC/Destin is going to see even more growth with the Southwest/airport deal.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: cline on March 17, 2010, 01:41:32 PM
QuoteTheir panhandle developments are way more enviromentally freindly that the rape and pillage they did at Rivertown. Most of their market seems to be over there now.

Their panhandle developments are the embodiment of a rape and pillage job.  And their market has always been over there.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: Lucasjj on March 17, 2010, 01:47:21 PM
"Wouldnt GAAP require the assets to be booked at current market value?"

Land is recorded at historic price, not market value.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Lucasjj on March 17, 2010, 01:47:21 PM
"Wouldnt GAAP require the assets to be booked at current market value?"

Land is recorded at historic price, not market value.
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True, although if an asset's market value falls below cost, GAAP, using the lower of cost or market approach, would require the asset be written down (this is a one-way street, write-ups are generally not allowed).  Of course, for taxes, no write downs until the property changes hands at a loss!

No matter the condition of the economy, I don't see their land going back to $1 an acre so that's not a threat to St. Joe.  My guess is they actually have the land on the books for a little bit more because they likely capitalized some improvements, carrying, and marketing costs into the land over the years.  Should still be minuscule compared to its current values.  If not, another sign of gross mismanagement.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: tufsu1 on March 17, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: stjr on March 17, 2010, 12:54:55 PM
Jax, the reason management can screw the stockholders and the company and still look good is because Ed Ball bought most of St. Joe's holdings during the depression at $1 per acre or less. 

You should understand that it was the shareholders themselves in the mid-90's that were sick of mediocre "safe" returns...and wanted the company to get involved in real estate, thereby increasing their stock value.

The stock went from $20 in 1998 up to over $80 in 2006.....and many of the investors likely sold before it dropped back to where it is now.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 17, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: stjr on March 17, 2010, 12:54:55 PM
Jax, the reason management can screw the stockholders and the company and still look good is because Ed Ball bought most of St. Joe's holdings during the depression at $1 per acre or less. 

You should understand that it was the shareholders themselves in the mid-90's that were sick of mediocre "safe" returns...and wanted the company to get involved in real estate, thereby increasing their stock value.

The stock went from $20 in 1998 up to over $80 in 2006.....and many of the investors likely sold before it dropped back to where it is now.

Let me clarify, some shareholders got screwed (obviously, the ones still holding the bag on the way down).  But, many of the controlling (note, it doesn't take many shares to control most public companies) shareholders (i.e. the ones who converted the company from a passive investor into an active developer) were also officers and directors who received very generous compensation for their paper profits.  It appears most of them jumped the ship before it began to seriously list.  Again, buyer beware.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: stjr on March 17, 2010, 05:38:38 PM
Wow, four $1 to $6 million/year execs (based on last three years SEC filings) out of 194 employees in a company losing $71 million on $105 million in the last 9 months.  ???  Ed Ball is sending steam out of his grave now!  He would fire all of them.  Really, Ed Ball made the money when he bought the land for nothing during the depression.  These guys and Mr. Rummell, below, don't deserve that much credit.

[Peter Rummell took millions more of compensation and benefits (in at least one year, alone, 2003, in the range of $10 to $15 million).  Millions more are reserved for severance and pension packages.]


(Note, although the T-U article below refers to an update today, it appears this article is actually from 2009 as the execs referred to left 12/2009)
QuoteSt. Joe lays off two high-ranking executives
Cost-cutting move in light of difficult market conditions


   * By Mark Basch
   * Story updated at 9:43 AM on Wednesday, Mar. 17, 2010

Two of The St. Joe Co.’s (NYSE: JOE) highest-ranking executives will be leaving the company at the end of the year in a cost-cutting move, according to a regulatory filing.

Christine Marx, general counsel and corporate secretary, and Stephen Solomon, senior vice president and treasurer, are leaving as part of “continuing efforts to reduce overhead expenses in light of difficult market conditions,” St. Joe said in a filing Friday with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Marx and Solomon were two of St. Joe’s four highest-paid executives, according to the company’s proxy statement filed earlier this year. Marx earned a base salary of $314,844 in 2008 and a total compensation package, including stock and options and other long-term pay, of $1.08 million. Solomon had a base salary of $282,744 and a total package of $901,652.

The only higher-paid executives are President and CEO Britt Greene, who had a total compensation package of $3.76 million, and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer William McCalmont, who earned $1.56 million.


Marx had been with St. Joe since 2003 and Solomon joined the company in 1999. St. Joe said in the SEC filing that their duties will be transferred to existing St. Joe employees.

St. Joe, which reported 194 employees as of Feb. 1, has downsized its operations considerably in the last two years as the recession slowed business at the Jacksonville-based developer of residential communities. St. Joe implemented a plan in late 2007 to cut 80 percent of its workforce, in part by transferring those employees to the payrolls of other companies that partner with St. Joe.

St. Joe still owns about 580,000 acres of land, mainly in the Panhandle.

The company reported a net loss of $70.7 million on revenue of $105.4 million in the first nine months of 2009. St. Joe’s results have been falling each year since it peaked with revenue of $718.5 million and a net profit of $126.7 million in 2005.

Florida Trend Magazine, 2008, Rummell jumps the sinking ship:


QuoteRummell Transformed St. Joe Co.
By Richard Westlund - 5/1/2008

Eleven years ago, Peter Rummell left Walt Disney Co. to become CEO of Jacksonville-based St. Joe Co. Fresh off the creation of Celebration as a “new town” near Orlando, Rummell had a clear mission: Transform an industrial conglomerate with interests in paper mills, timber, rail transportation and sugar cane into a real estate development company.

“We were all over the place,” recalls Rummell, 62, who is stepping down as CEO in May but will remain chairman. “At that time, the board hired me rather than a railroad or sugar guy because they thought the future was in the land. My job was to develop a strategy for the land, while taking apart the conglomerate in a way that made sense to shareholders.”

In the decade after Alfred duPont founded it in the 1920s, St. Joe purchased roughly a million acres in the Panhandle for next to nothing. That gave Rummell, who had started his real estate career in 1971, a fresh canvas to develop residential communities.

While selling off St. Joe’s older businesses, a process that took about three years, Rummell focused on two key development projects. Applying lessons learned with Celebration and the nearby New Urbanist community of Seaside, Rummell launched WaterColor, a master-planned beachfront development in Fort Walton Beach. “We knew there was an existing market for these homes, and the land was relatively easy to entitle,” he says. WaterColor set the pattern for future St. Joe residential projects and is virtually sold out.

Rummell’s second major goal was creating a new Panama City airport to improve access to the central Panhandle and spur economic growth. St. Joe donated 4,000 acres and became the leading advocate for the Panama City-Bay County International Airport, which is now under construction, with completion expected in 2010.

Richard Clattenburg, an analyst at T. Rowe Price Group in Baltimore, calls Rummell a visionary who changed both his company and the region, creating a more upscale vacation image for the Panhandle. “Peter can see what something could become years down the line while managing the process along the way,” says Clattenburg.

St. Joe’s stock price has mirrored Florida’s real estate cycles. As the Florida residential market took off, the company launched a series of developments from Tallahassee westward, and shares reached a high of around $90 in December 2005.

Then came the national market downturn, and St. Joe’s sales dried up. In 2007, profit fell to $39.2 million, compared with $51 million in 2006. The company cut its staff from 980 in mid-2007 to a projected 200 in early 2008. In mid-April, its stock was trading for around $40 a share.

“What we’re going through is one of the facts of life in the real estate business,” Rummell says. “There’s plenty of activity in our sales centers, but there’s no incentive for buyers to make a decision.” He expects 2008 to be another slow year, with some improvement in 2009.

St. Joe still owns about 700,000 acres â€" worth as much as $1 million an acre â€" with no urgent need to dispose of those assets. “When you deal with such large amounts of land, you have to take a long view, otherwise you’ll never capture the real value. I believe the next decade will bring even greater success for our company.”

Courtesy of St. Joe Proxy Statement filed with SEC:


QuoteThe table below summarizes the total compensation paid or awarded to each of the named executives for the years ended December 31, 2008, 2007 and 2006, calculated in accordance with SEC rules.

(See full table at page 43 at: http://ir.joe.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=950135-09-2383 )                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
 Peter S. Rummell
                  2008      1,400,197    
Former Chairman and
                  2007      2,836,798    
Chief Executive Officer    
                 2006       4,195,469        
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: reednavy on March 17, 2010, 06:28:04 PM
Seems smart to be adjacent to their biggest egg, hell, their golden egg.

KECP (Northwest Florida Beaches Int'l) opens May 23rd and will be the boon for them, but NW FL's spark to initiate serious sprawl.
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: tufsu1 on March 17, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
that depends on your definition of sprawl...if it is continued development in undeveloped areas, then yes...if it is unplanned growth, then no.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/10/realestate/commercial/10airport.html?ref=realestate&pagewanted=all
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: urbanlibertarian on March 17, 2010, 07:04:58 PM
Here's the address of the new airport: 982 State Highway 388, Panama City Beach, FL 32413

Here's the website of the new airport: http://newpcairport.com/
Title: Re: Jacksonville losing St. Joe Corporate Headquarters
Post by: reednavy on March 17, 2010, 07:24:53 PM
I guess in a way that St. Joe's PC Airport and associated West Bay Sector Plan is controlled sprawl. While it is developing land that is nothing but forests, it has an overall plan to restrict it to within the mapped areas.