Economic integration works "spectacularly."
The below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
QuoteA purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
East Lake video on CNBC Business Nation:
http://www2.cybergolf.com/sites/courses/view.asp?id=346&page=27971 (http://www2.cybergolf.com/sites/courses/view.asp?id=346&page=27971)
I don't see the "insert video" tag button, so maybe one of your more savvy post-ers can post it in this thread?
(and I'm not advocating golf in Springfield ;).
Funny, in a recent thread, you made it obvious you weren't such a big proponent of having those pesky lower-income residents running around. Change of heart?
Can we PLEASE talk about what was just posted and not waste everyone's time with a bunch of accusations and discussions based on what appear to be misinterpretations and incorrect assumptions about previous posts?
The statistics cited here are amazing - I'm going to call Carol Naughton and get more information.
Quote from: Miss Fixit on March 07, 2010, 10:40:38 PM
Can we PLEASE talk about what was just posted and not waste everyone's time with a bunch of accusations and discussions based on what appear to be misinterpretations and incorrect assumptions about previous posts?
The statistics cited here are amazing - I'm going to call Carol Naughton and get more information.
I'm sorry, what exactly am I "assuming" again? Did she or didn't she post these little gems? And MANY others...
Quote from: zoo on March 04, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
When a community is 92% low-income, and over 80% African-American, diversity is created by adding elements other than that. Middle or upper income, white, yellow, red or whatever.
Quote from: zoo on March 04, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
Diversity does not necessarily mean more African-Americans should join the party unless there are few in the mix to begin with.
Yes yes, clearly all "misinterpretation". Gimme a break. The only one misinterpreting anything is her, misinterpreting those Brookings Institution studies she cited, that say the exact opposite of what she's claiming. They'd probably be horrified if they saw their content associated with the language quoted above.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on March 07, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
Funny, in a recent thread, you made it obvious you weren't such a big proponent of having those pesky lower-income residents running around. Change of heart?
None of the quotes in your last post support the statement you made above. Thus, assumption or misinterpretation.
What do you think about Purpose Built Communities, ChriswUFGator?
Quote from: Miss Fixit on March 07, 2010, 11:18:21 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on March 07, 2010, 09:10:40 PM
Funny, in a recent thread, you made it obvious you weren't such a big proponent of having those pesky lower-income residents running around. Change of heart?
None of the quotes in your last post support the statement you made above. Thus, assumption or misinterpretation.
What do you think about Purpose Built Communities, ChriswUFGator?
You're handing me a dog and telling me it's a cat, what am I even supposed to say to this?
My posts referenced the exact quotes which I then quoted for you, which back up what I posted. How much clearer could this be? Zoo is in one thread rallying against the inclusion of more low-income housing, and in this thread talking about how wonderful it is. I questioned the disparity between the two positions. A question I notice you've completely sidestepped.
"Cunning Linguist"
Really Stephen, your best title to date!!
ROFLMFAO!!
OCKLAWAHA
I think Mrs Fixit was asking for you to register an opinion, rather than bash, bash, bash.
Quote from: Dan B on March 08, 2010, 12:17:36 AM
I think Mrs Fixit was asking for you to register an opinion, rather than bash, bash, bash.
Really? In a thread with the title this one has? They're just neutrally debating a point? Really?
And you folks don't see any disparity between the positions in this thread, and her normal routine?
QuoteAnd though I'm sure someone will try, don't bother twisting my words to mean that I think any more African-Americans that want to come to Springfield should be excluded -- that is not what I typed or intended. However, I'll admit I feel that way about low-income, as improvement of area economics and revitalization (my hope) go hand in hand.
And FWIW, here's where the "cunning linguist" language came forth...
Quote from: zoo on March 05, 2010, 09:00:54 AM
Two studies previously referenced in this thread...
Here's another:
http://www.ceosforcities.org/pagefiles/EconomicIntegration.pdf (http://www.ceosforcities.org/pagefiles/EconomicIntegration.pdf)
Also review the work done by Bruce Katz of Brookings and William Julius Wilson.
And when you contact them, be sure to ask them if they support a "Stampede the poors and 'others' out strategy" so you can get the response you seek.
These experts, and numerous others, are all idiots. We should just jump on the sparsely-supported bandwagon of Stephen, the all-knowing cunning linguist.
And for the record, Brookings would be horrified to have their name attached to this kind of tripe.
Quote from: zoo on March 05, 2010, 10:04:57 AM
Fact: If economic integration is the answer as the experts indicate, in Springfield integration requires re-balancing the socio-economics in favor of higher wage earners.
How do you reconcile the above with what she's posted in this thread? You don't see a discrepancy?
Care to fix it, MissFixit? Or at least address it?
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 12:22:01 AM
The proof is indeed in the pudding.
And it tastes like an imbecile was reading the original recipe.
+1
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 12:29:42 AM
By pretending that your goal of 'integrating' is somehow served by 'excluding the 'wrong demographic', and simply relabeling overt snobbery by giving it a liberal feel good kind of title.
That's my take on it as well.
A new name for the same old attitude that's 1) Blown up SPAR, 2) Caused half the neighborhood to become vacant lots over the last 8 years, and 3) Caused the residents of the other half that's occupied to become endlessly embroiled in a series of petty wars and drama. Doesn't seem like that particular take on things has worked out so well over the last decade.
What happened to that old thing about learning from our mistakes?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/1890sc_Pears_Soap_Ad.jpg)
I think they meant "SPARs Soap"...must've been a misprint.
Economic integration works "spectacularly."
The below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
Quote
A purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
Thats productive. Way to contribute.
Perhaps we could start a new thread, with a different tag line, and have a real discussion about programs like Purpose Built Communities?
So, just to clarify, Zoo, you are advocating to integrate the community so that the less fortunate can “learn:“ from the more fortunate because the studies show that by having this social economic integration , the poor learn there is something better from the better off neighbors.
So, let’s look at a homeless man. We take him and let him live within the Springfield community, he gets a job, goes to work just like his neighbors, comes home and cooks himself dinner and relaxes in front of the TV. He interacts with his better off neighbors and “learns†from them that they are really no better than he is after all and they all get along and the trash gets picked up, the yards cut and everyone is happy. Doesn’t this sound like the exact scenario that is being advocated by the various studies you are posting ?
You do know I just described one of our sober houses, don’t you? Yet, what is the current SPAR Council policy in regards to the sober houses? You know, those legal rentals that you and your like minded SPAR Council board members keep trying to get the city to make illegal by any means possible? In another thread, I asked if you had changed your spots. You indicated you had not. How do you justify claiming to advocate these studies when you obviously, from past posts and past actions, do not believe in them?
We, meaning those of us who truly believe Springfield, heck, the world, should be truly integrated and that the lowly homeless is as deserving of a better life as anyone else, have seen this tactic before. You can’t “beat us†by saying how bad we are, so you find a study or a policy that seems to support your point of view in a positive light but in reality, you end up twisting that policy into something it is not.
Geez, Stephen, you give me too much credit. More accurately...
QuoteAlthough Im so inspired by all this talk, Ive written a poem to Zoo's Pudding Crusade.
Ive Entitled it:
Take Up Paul Jargowsky, Todd Swanstrom, Margery Austin Turner, Lynette A. Rawlings or Susan J. Popkin, Bruce Katz, William Julius Wilson, Leonard Pitts, Tom Cousins, Julian Robertson, Warren Buffett, Eva Davis, Shirley Franklin, Project Built Community's (collectively "trained, with research and field experience in the areas of sociology, housing, and/or community revitalization 'Experts'") Newfound Burden.
"Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!"
QuoteEconomic integration works "spectacularly."
The below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
Quote
A purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
I look forward to the next piece of cunning linguistics...
Here's the web site and the video again, as well:
www.purposebuiltcommunities.org (http://www.purposebuiltcommunities.org)
http://eastlakefoundation.org/sites/courses/view.asp?id=346&page=27971 (http://eastlakefoundation.org/sites/courses/view.asp?id=346&page=27971)
I'm still waiting for credit to be given to my cunning linguist statement that started this whole thing. Should've trademarked that sucker. ;D
QuoteAlso review the work done by Bruce Katz of Brookings and William Julius Wilson.
And when you contact them, be sure to ask them if they support a "Stampede the poors and 'others' out strategy" so you can get the response you seek.
Stephen, you've got a lot of experts to call in your misguided, failing attempt to discredit me, who has never claimed to be an expert. Below I have included my only post that mentions exclusion of anyone, and the intelligent readers of this forum will see that those indications are consistent with the views and findings of the experts.
QuoteMy post does not say anyone currently, and legally, residing in Springfield should be forced out. My post refers to those wanting to come in, and I have no bones to pick with any one single home-renter or buyer who is in compliance with the laws of the municipality.
However, I'm calling bullshit on any group, non-profit or otherwise, that wants to stack more low- or no-income persons (of any ethnicity) in Springfield, while claiming it's good for those persons or is necessary to maintain diversity, just because Springfield is perceived as the easiest place to do so or "where we've always put 'them.'" That is the kind of language and reasoning I hear frequently from you, other seemingly well-intentioned social service providers, and public policymakers in this screwed up, suburb- and segregation-minded mess of Jacksonville.
Fact: If economic integration is the answer as the experts indicate, in Springfield integration requires re-balancing the socio-economics in favor of higher wage earners.
Here is the link to one of the Economic Integration studies again:
http://www.ceosforcities.org/pagefiles/EconomicIntegration.pdf (http://www.ceosforcities.org/pagefiles/EconomicIntegration.pdf)
QuoteMy philosophy, or should I say my support of the published findings of experts in the field, hasn't changed at all. But the attempts to twist it to suit the views of those with less informed, self-interested, and predatory objectives have...
Here's another link re: East Lake from the Wilson Center, so be sure to add them and Vernon Jordan to your list of experts to contact...
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/ondemand/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.play&mediaid=FA0A1920-B63C-043F-91AC6C706E6EF615 (http://www.wilsoncenter.org/ondemand/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.play&mediaid=FA0A1920-B63C-043F-91AC6C706E6EF615)
Hope someone will embed the video (at least Stephen is an expert at something, eh?)
Hahaha. The mommies club is bad. Thats awesome!
FWIW, I agree. The community doesnt take enough advantage of the facilities in the community. Last summer when I was taking my kids to the Kennedy center for family swim time, I only saw a hand full of other people the entire time. The staff out numbered the swimmers most nights.
Cunning linguist, but selective reader, I guess...
QuoteMy post does not say anyone currently, and legally, residing in Springfield should be forced out. My post refers to those wanting to come in, and I have no bones to pick with any one single home-renter or buyer who is in compliance with the laws of the municipality.
In the successful East Lake model, the income mix is now 50/50 (50% low/50% middle+). It's not 50/50 in Springfield, and won't be without another ~20% adjustment.
And, btw, I believe what you say (that can't be legitimately documented) as much as I believe there is a Jasper Aeten. Hustle up and fabricate an email from Bruce Katz, will you?
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
doing your best to completely isolate the new class from the rest of the neighborhood through the formation of members only (and overwhelmingly white) clubs like SPAR, the Wine Club, and the First Friday parties (whose invitations are only sent out through the almost completely white, and private associations like SPAR.)
Pretty sure the Springfield Wine Society was formed to drink wine not to isolate anyone, the only thing I'm aware of that they limit to is # that attend. And I guess we need to inform all the non-whites (meaning black, yellow, brown and red) that do attend SWS, First Fridays and other club sponsored events they were mistaken by thinking they could show up? <sarcasm, you know, in case no one could figure it out>
Quote from: zoo on March 08, 2010, 09:17:57 AM
Take Up Paul Jargowsky, Todd Swanstrom, Margery Austin Turner, Lynette A. Rawlings or Susan J. Popkin, Bruce Katz, William Julius Wilson, Leonard Pitts, Tom Cousins, Julian Robertson, Warren Buffett, Eva Davis, Shirley Franklin, Project Built Community's (collectively "trained, with research and field experience in the areas of sociology, housing, and/or community revitalization 'Experts'") Newfound Burden.
"Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up Expert's newfound burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!"
Holy $h!t! You just rewrote "The White Man's Burden" to include Bruce Katz and William Julius Wilson!
Sportmotor, you're off the hook, I know I already nominated your "but wait...diamonds are worth more than gems!" post to the interwebs hall of fame already, but I'm changing my vote. This. Takes. The. !@#$%&*. Cake.
I don't know whether to laugh, or fall out bed guffawing like a hyena until I can no longer breathe. Tough choice.
Should I print this thread and fax it to Brookings and Harvard? I bet they've never seen something like this.
Quote from: nvrenuf on March 08, 2010, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
doing your best to completely isolate the new class from the rest of the neighborhood through the formation of members only (and overwhelmingly white) clubs like SPAR, the Wine Club, and the First Friday parties (whose invitations are only sent out through the almost completely white, and private associations like SPAR.)
Pretty sure the Springfield Wine Society was formed to drink wine not to isolate anyone, the only thing I'm aware of that they limit to is # that attend. And I guess we need to inform all the non-whites (meaning black, yellow, brown and red) that do attend SWS, First Fridays and other club sponsored events they were mistaken by thinking they could show up? <sarcasm, you know, in case no one could figure it out>
So just how many of the neighborhood's lesser-privileged residents are milling around and sipping the Louis Jadot?
Anybody want make a bet?
Don't know. I don't ask people for income statements before I talk to them.
Quote from: nvrenuf on March 08, 2010, 11:07:22 AM
Don't know. I don't ask people for income statements before I talk to them.
Or before opposing their applications for zoning exceptions, business licenses, etc., either, right?
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
To be technical, William Julius Wilson is at Harvard. Im sure they would be equally as thrilled as the Brookings was.
I realized that and corrected it already.
Writing a cover letter that's about to go off along with this thread to 617-495-5834 in about 5 minutes. I'm sick of these idiots quoting people who would be utterly HORRIFIED to have their name associated with this ridiculous 21st-century-renamed version of the white man's burden. Let's see what they have to say about this.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on March 08, 2010, 11:09:10 AM
Quote from: nvrenuf on March 08, 2010, 11:07:22 AM
Don't know. I don't ask people for income statements before I talk to them.
Or before opposing their applications for zoning exceptions, business licenses, etc., either, right?
Since I've never opposed any of those, I'd have to say you are correct.
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on March 08, 2010, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: nvrenuf on March 08, 2010, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
doing your best to completely isolate the new class from the rest of the neighborhood through the formation of members only (and overwhelmingly white) clubs like SPAR, the Wine Club, and the First Friday parties (whose invitations are only sent out through the almost completely white, and private associations like SPAR.)
Pretty sure the Springfield Wine Society was formed to drink wine not to isolate anyone, the only thing I'm aware of that they limit to is # that attend. And I guess we need to inform all the non-whites (meaning black, yellow, brown and red) that do attend SWS, First Fridays and other club sponsored events they were mistaken by thinking they could show up? <sarcasm, you know, in case no one could figure it out>
So just how many of the neighborhood's lesser-privileged residents are milling around and sipping the Louis Jadot?
Anybody want make a bet?
Its just a ruse to get you talking about something else besides the sweltering blister of Zoo's Pudding(head) Crusade, Chris. The individual organizations are just fine, and everyone reading knows that, but the neighborhood as it exists doesnt back up Zoo's claims that the "non racially defined but still mostly white upperclass (and therefore educated with superior morality and social skills)" Man's (and people of other genders of course) Burden are the justification for 'excluding' other, non approved, residents from living in or moving to the neighborhood.
A ruse? Yep, that's what most of my posts will historically show. I'm into ruses. <sarcasm again> It could also just be a response to what I considered to be a hysterical and weird statement. But then that is just my opinion and last I checked I was still allowed to have them on metrojacksonville forums unless there is some form of classist system in place here that only allows a few select people to have an opinion.
Bash away, I'll be back later. Some of us have work to do.
Quotesimply excluding the poor from one neighborhood of a city
Jasper Aeten's (oops, I mean Stephen's) words, not mine.
It almost sounds like most people would rather not be associated with that literary masterpiece.
Why would anyone try to infer such associations exist?
Here are quotes of my posts again:
Quotedon't bother twisting my words to mean that I think any more African-Americans that want to come to Springfield should be excluded -- that is not what I typed or intended. However, I'll admit I feel that way about low-income, as improvement of area economics and revitalization (my hope) go hand in hand
QuoteMy post does not say anyone currently, and legally, residing in Springfield should be forced out. My post refers to those wanting to come in, and I have no bones to pick with any one single home-renter or buyer who is in compliance with the laws of the municipality.
However, I'm calling bullshit on any group, non-profit or otherwise, that wants to stack more low- or no-income persons (of any ethnicity) in Springfield, while claiming it's good for those persons or is necessary to maintain diversity
Didn't see "simply excluding the poor from one neighborhood of a city" in there anywhere, though I am witnessing umatched amounts what is bold in my earlier post, quoted below:
QuoteThough I haven't met everyone in the 'hood, it is interesting that, with all the diversity, I haven't met a single person in Springfield that wants the community to turn into a "wealthy enclave", or a "boring place full of nothing but white people." But I have certainly met a few who try to use that garbage to manipulate the opinions of those who wish to believe it.
Stephen, the real irony is that you, your two friends and the myriad of yous concocted in your imagination are the brainwashing victims here -- believing and purporting that Springfield should remain as it is (or was in 2000 or before?) with the concentration of low-income households that originally resulted from, among other things, racist/classist housing, lending, infrastructure and transportation policy of the 1940s-80s! Economic integration (what the experts espouse, and I support) will lead to social change that benefits socio-economically challenged groups. It's proven, and it's even working in Springfield already, despite your garden-variety wordsmithy. Your cause, keeping Springfield unbalanced with low-income households, hasn't ever made positive change and won't in the future.
Your "I'm FOR Springfield" position is malarkey unless there is some misunderstanding on your part about the definition of "integrate" -- " to end the segregation of and bring into equal membership in society or an organization." (Merriam-Webster). Equal means equal. 50/50. See below:
QuoteThe below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
A purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
It's simple: East Lake's economic mix before - unequal. East Lake's economic mix now - equal. East Lake's residents before - unequal. East Lake's residents now - getting closer to equal.
Quote from: fsu813 on March 08, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
"... the myriad of yous concocted in your imagination are the brainwashing victims here..."
Stephen has a truly phenomenal imagination, for him to summon me from his mind into physical existence when he was only three months old. Well, I'm here now, deal with it.
http://www.youtube.com/v/ert6uHKCdek
QuoteEconomic integration works "spectacularly."
The below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
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A purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
Quote from: zoo on March 08, 2010, 05:49:11 PM
QuoteEconomic integration works "spectacularly."
The below article by Leonard Pitts was reprinted in the Viewpoint section of the T-U today (3/7/10) under the headline "Saving young people in crisis; Violent crime has dropped 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passed the state math test." The proof is in the pudding:
Quote
A purpose to build homes, lift spirits
BY LEONARD PITTS
LPITTS@MIAMIHERALD.COM
NEW ORLEANS -- Warren Buffett leads a troop of officials, reporters, and a guy with a boom mike into the just-finished new apartment.
Five years ago, after the levees failed, this area was ten feet underwater. Now, on this bitterly cold morning early in March, it is a construction zone ringed by chainlink fences, and one of the richest men in America wanders around what will eventually be some family's home. Model furnishings have been placed just so. The smell of new is still in the rooms.
This is part of the inaugural meeting of the Purpose Built Communities network, to which civic leaders from around the country have come. And, it is an attempt to export ``What Works.''
As in my 2007-2008 series of columns by that name, about programs that have shown success saving young people in crisis. One of the most ambitious of them was the East Lake Foundation in Atlanta, founded in 1995 by developer Tom Cousins.
Cousins achieved near miracles -- violent crime down 96 percent, 78 percent of kids passing the state math test when only 5 percent could do it before -- in what had been one of the worst and most dangerous public housing projects in the country. There were many elements to that success: offering better schools, creating an early learning center, building a YMCA, evicting felons.
But the centerpiece was that in the airy new apartment complex Cousins built to replace the housing project, half the units are held for middle-income families, the other half for poor, government subsidized families. The idea being that middle-income people would, just in their daily doings, model for their neighbors the habits and behaviors of a successful life.
It worked, spectacularly.
And Purpose Built Communities is the outgrowth. Founded by Cousins, Buffett and philanthropist Julian Robertson, it offers expertise, guidance and partnerships to those seeking to replicate East Lake's success in their own blighted communities. Its member network includes projects in Rome, Ga., Jackson, Miss., Indianapolis and Memphis. There is no charge for its services.
Vice-president Carol Naughton says community leaders in other cities who want to learn more should visit www.purposebuiltcommunities.org. Or, she says: ``Give me a call. It's that simple. Give me a call (404-591-1400) and we'll start the conversation. We can kind of coach you about how to build this initial organization, about who your partners can be, who can bring resources to the community and advocate for the community. And who those resources are within the community, too.''
It is not easy and it is not magic. It takes time, tears, toil and setback to grow hope in places where it has not grown before. But do it, says Cousins, and ``you will see the children that would've been lost in the normal process become stars, become bright.''
``There is,'' says PBC President Chuck Knapp, ``a difference between a project and a movement.''
They want this to be a movement.
``Whenever you have something happen like East Lake,'' says Buffett, ``people say, `That's just because one guy had a passion for it, wouldn't stop and went through a brick wall, made it happen.' But the real test is whether it's replicable. Once you do it beyond where the founders started it, it becomes evident to other communities: if the community cares enough about getting it done, it will get done.''
And this, he says, needs to get done in dozens of communities.
Apparently Memphis wasn't so fortunate.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/american-murder-mystery/6872/
And what is next? Are you going to have every new potential renter or home owner fill out an application to see if they meet your criteria, Zoo? If you only think higher income families need apply, how exactly are you going to accomplish that?
Like in the past when the “Broken Window Theory “ and the “Community Policing†ideas were somehow bastardized by SPAR Council, I’m sure you will find a way to do the same to this latest idea.
And I note that you have ignored trying to answer how SPAR Council and yourself can possibly correlate embracing the ideas in the studies you have recently posted with the attacks against the very people who are accomplishing what the studies are about. And how do you make this work with your current commercial development polices?
You indicated that you have not changed your spots, Zoo, and I have to say, I believe you. You believe the same as you did a week ago or three months ago. You are just trying to quote something nice to hide how you really feel. I get that. It is somewhat dishonest, but I do get it.
Just to clarify, many of us have embraced the realities of Springfield. What it is, who is here, who will stay and what should be done to insure a great community. It is an all inclusive idea that will truly work. We are willing to embrace the social economic groups that are here now and the ones we believe will remain here for many years to come. That is a lot different that saying we want to go backwards. It is saying we want to go forwards and when we do, take everyone along with us, not just the few we like. Heck, Zoo, we will even take you along with us. Personally, I think it will be one heck of a ride.
Zoo, what do you make the of Memphis study?
holey moley - we're in memphis? hey elvis? grilled peanut butter and banana sandwiches?
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on March 08, 2010, 11:04:33 AM
Holy $h!t! You just rewrote "The White Man's Burden" to include Bruce Katz and William Julius Wilson!
Sportmotor, you're off the hook, I know I already nominated your "but wait...diamonds are worth more than gems!" post to the interwebs hall of fame already, but I'm changing my vote. This. Takes. The. !@#$%&*. Cake.
I don't know whether to laugh, or fall out bed guffawing like a hyena until I can no longer breathe. Tough choice.
Should I print this thread and fax it to Brookings and Harvard? I bet they've never seen something like this.
DAW
Reading the Memphis study was disheartening. What can be made of it? It would seem that a certain percentage of the population is going to behave badly no matter what society does or doesn't do for them.
Quote from: Springfield Girl on March 10, 2010, 11:39:38 AM
Reading the Memphis study was disheartening. What can be made of it? It would seem that a certain percentage of the population is going to behave badly no matter what society does or doesn't do for them.
I saw the Memphis study a few years ago and was amazed, not only the evidence that it presented but how unlikely though normal Chanel's the conclusions would be brought together. Further study needs to be done on this. If it is true the number of section 8 housing needs to be limited to a small number per neighborhood and spread out thoughout the city in order to better assimilate lower income persons into normal society.
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Its why the work of Robert Peel was so revolutionary and noble, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Peel
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I had a great history teacher who believed in teaching both sides. He thought on the other hand that Peel was not as altruistic/noble as it seemed. His family was incredibly weathly and their stuff needed protection = hence the idea of a police force. He did repeal the corn laws though.
Another interesting article in June 08's Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1818255,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1818255,00.html)):
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Gentrification: Not Ousting the Poor?
By BARBARA KIVIAT Sunday, Jun. 29, 2008
People tend to think gentrification goes like this: rich, educated white people move into a low-income minority neighborhood and drive out its original residents, who can no longer afford to live there. As it turns out, that's not typically true.
A new study by researchers at the University of Colorado at Boulder, University of Pittsburgh and Duke University, examined Census data from more than 15,000 neighborhoods across the U.S. in 1990 and 2000, and found that low-income non-white households did not disproportionately leave gentrifying areas. In fact, researchers found that at least one group of residents, high schoolâ€"educated blacks, were actually more likely to remain in gentrifying neighborhoods than in similar neighborhoods that didn't gentrify â€" even increasing as a fraction of the neighborhood population, and seeing larger-than-expected gains in income.
Those findings may seem counterintuitive, given that the term "gentrification," particularly in cities like New York and San Francisco, has become synonymous with soaring rents, wealthier neighbors and the dislocation of low-income residents. But overall, the new study suggests, the popular notion of the yuppie invasion is exaggerated. "We're not saying there aren't communities where displacement isn't happening," says Randall Walsh, an associate professor of economics at the University of Pittsburgh and one of the study's authors. "But in general, across all neighborhoods in the urbanized parts of the U.S., it looks like gentrification is a pretty good thing."
The researchers found, for example, that income gains in gentrifying neighborhoods â€" usually defined as low-income urban areas that undergo rises in income and housing prices â€" were more widely dispersed than one might expect. Though college-educated whites accounted for 20% of the total income gain in gentrifying neighborhoods, black householders with high school degrees contributed even more: 33% of the neighborhood's total rise. In other words, a broad demographic of people in the neighborhood benefited financially. According to the study's findings, only one group â€" black residents who never finished high school â€" saw their income grow at a slower rate than predicted. But the study also suggests that these residents weren't moving out of their neighborhoods at a disproportionately higher rate than from similar neighborhoods that didn't gentrify.
This study isn't the first to come to that conclusion. A 2005 paper published in Urban Affairs Review by Lance Freeman, an assistant professor of urban planning at Columbia University, looked at a nationwide sample of neighborhoods between 1986 and 1989 and found that low-income residents tended to move out of gentrifying areas at essentially the same frequency they left other neighborhoods. The real force behind the changing face of a gentrifying community, Freeman concluded, isn't displacement but succession. When people move away as part of normal neighborhood turnover, the people who move in are generally more affluent. Community advocates may argue that succession is just another form of exclusion â€" if low-income people can't afford to move in â€" but, still, it doesn't exactly fit the popular perception of individuals being forced from their homes.
The new study found that while gentrification did not necessarily push out original residents, it did create neighborhoods that middle-class minorities moved to. The addition of white college graduates, especially those under 40 without children, was a hallmark of gentrifying neighborhoods â€" that much fit the conventional wisdom â€" but so was the influx of college-educated blacks and Hispanics, who moved to gentrifying neighborhoods more often than they to did similar, more static areas. Two other groups tended to move more often into upwardly mobile neighborhoods as well: 40-to-60-year-old Hispanics without a high-school degree, and similarly uneducated Hispanics aged 20 to 40 with children â€" a counterpoint to the common conception of gentrification, if there ever was one. The only group that was less likely to move to a gentrifying area was high schoolâ€"educated whites aged 20 to 40 with kids.
The study is under review for publication, but is being circulated early by the National Bureau of Economic Research. The findings, while unexpected, are notable for the depth of data on which they're based. Walsh and his colleagues, Terra McKinnish, an associate professor of economics at the University of Colorado at Boulder, and Kirk White, an economist at Duke University's Triangle Census Research Data Center, compared confidential Census figures from 1990 and 2000 from 15,040 neighborhoods, with an average of about 4,000 residents each, in 64 metropolitan areas, such as Phoenix, Boston, Ft. Lauderdale, Columbus, New York, Atlanta and San Diego. The researchers identified gentrifying neighborhoods as those in which the average family earned less than $30,079 in 1990 â€" the poorest one-fifth of the country â€" and at least $10,000 more 10 years later. Taken all together, the study paints a more nuanced picture of gentrification than exists in the popular imagination. But the authors acknowledge that it leaves plenty of unanswered questions, such as why certain demographic groups are more likely to stay in â€" or move to â€" gentrifying neighborhoods, and why certain groups, such as blacks without high school degrees, don't see the same income gains as others.
Then there is that most fundamental of questions: does gentrification lead to greater wealth for people in a neighborhood, or are the people who choose to live in such a place otherwise predisposed to make more money? "This study shows us a lot more about gentrification," says Walsh, "but there's still a lot we don't know."
Oh they understand just fine, they just don't agree. Unfortunately, Kortland is giving these people waaaaaaaay too much credit. They're not just blissfully misinformed, rather, they full well know what's up but still go through every published study available looking for snippets that might appear to support their foregone elitist conclusions. Which are, essentially, that we need more rich white people and less of, well, everything else.
This is nothing education or information is going to cure, unfortunately the problem runs deeper than that.
My reply has mysteriously turned into its own thread (not entirely sure how that happened). If the pudding camp would like to read it, it can be found at the head of the so-named "Kortland's East Lake Discussion" thread. http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,7858.0.html
Quote from: stephendare on March 12, 2010, 04:38:25 PM
You know, my friend Kortland believes we should all return to an absolute monarchy. Something about the lower classes obviously not being able to govern themselves.
Perhaps he could be persuaded to weigh in.
A friend who was working on his PHD once told me the most successful form of government was feudalism as the ultimate power was always in the hands to the common folk. If you had a good lord or king (or queen), then everyone had enough and prospered. If you had a bad lord or king, then ultimately the people rose up (as they weren’t just the labors and such, but also the armies) and took the power away from him (or her) and gave it to someone they believed to be better.
We seem to be able to do the same thing today, but through voting. It isn’t perhaps as successful nor as satisfying, but still we have the power if we can and are allowed to exercise it. And if and when we are not allowed to exercise that right, perhaps the old ways should be brought back.
I think some will agree that this seems to apply to a certain organization here in Springfield.
can't remember who originally said it, but it must be added here: if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.
Quote from: stephendare on March 08, 2010, 12:48:40 AM
Although Im so inspired by all this talk, Ive written a poem to Zoo's Pudding Crusade.
Ive Entitled it:
Take Up Zoo's Newfound Burden.
"Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up Zoo's newfound burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!"