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Title: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 05, 2010, 11:08:23 AM
Quote'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs


Traci Watson
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(March 4) -- For decades, scientists have debated exactly what kind of cataclysm was responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Did a giant rock from outer space blast T. rex and his ilk off the face of the Earth? Or was a huge volcanic eruption to blame?

Now the jury is in -- maybe. In Friday's issue of the prestigious journal Science, a "dream team" of 41 researchers from 12 nations declares that the evidence points overwhelmingly to a mountain-sized asteroid that walloped the planet 65 million years ago. The monstrous boulder left an equally monstrous scar, a 120-mile-wide dimple known as the Chicxulub crater on the Mexican coast.

"We assessed the whole picture," says Kirk Johnson of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. "The answer is quite simple. ... The Chicxulub crater really is the culprit."


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Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 05, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
Welp... I guess that settles it.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Doctor_K on March 05, 2010, 11:23:50 AM
Ah, scientific concensus. ;D
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Bostech on March 05, 2010, 01:09:21 PM
I thought it was Netflix that killed dinosaurs.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Doctor_K on March 05, 2010, 01:11:13 PM
Of course it did.  The Blockbustersaurus and the Movie-Gallery Rex.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
This is the scientific consensus, but what is the religious consensus?  Are you trying to tell me the earth is older that what the Bible says?
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 05, 2010, 05:34:40 PM
We have more to fear from a repeat of this type event than "global warming".... :)
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
^ the moon will get us before global warming does
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 05, 2010, 05:41:50 PM
I always suspected the moon was up to no good.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:43:13 PM
can't trust a giant ball of cheese that is to big for crackers
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Bostech on March 05, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
Dinosaurs went extinct because they elected Bushonosaurus as leader.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Doctor_K on March 05, 2010, 09:57:58 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
^ the moon will get us before global warming does
or the earthquakes!
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 08, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
This is the scientific consensus, but what is the religious consensus?  Are you trying to tell me the earth is older that what the Bible says?


How old does the Bible say it is?
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 10:09:04 AM
Old enough to know better, but young enough to go ahead and do it anyway.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 08, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
This is the scientific consensus, but what is the religious consensus?  Are you trying to tell me the earth is older that what the Bible says?

How old does the Bible say it is?

I guess I just inferred the seven day thing.  If man was made on the seventh day, then the first day had to be the earth.  I don't remember reading about giant maneating reptiles in the bible.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 12:21:51 PM
I don't recall dinosaurs eating man, but that doesn't prevent a little fun in a silly thread, does it?
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 08, 2010, 12:51:20 PM
I didn't really mean to pull this topic off into another religious battle but, to me, the Bible leaves out a LOT about the distant past simply because man wasn't around to write about it.  I still believe that God is the sole creator of all that we see but I feel that what is outlined in Genesis is only the short version as it applies to mankind.  That previous six days of creation could have easily been billions of years in our own perception.

Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 08, 2010, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 08, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
This is the scientific consensus, but what is the religious consensus?  Are you trying to tell me the earth is older that what the Bible says?

How old does the Bible say it is?

I guess I just inferred the seven day thing.  If man was made on the seventh day, then the first day had to be the earth.  I don't remember reading about giant maneating reptiles in the bible.


Wow, I always thought they all died in a freak boating accident...

As for the 7 "days" in the Bible, you'll do well to remember that time is a man made concept. In the world of God and advanced science there really is no time.  As humans we see life as if watching a parade pass by, one float at a time, we don't recall the beginning and can't see the end.  God, as an ET, would see that same parade as if from the air, beginning, end, or middle, without regards to our "time" limitations.

So what is time? If a tree falls in the forest...  What is the sound of one hand clapping? If you think you heard a flower, it's a flower that you heard.


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 08, 2010, 12:51:20 PM
I didn't really mean to pull this topic off into another religious battle but, to me, the Bible leaves out a LOT about the distant past simply because man wasn't around to write about it.  I still believe that God is the sole creator of all that we see but I feel that what is outlined in Genesis is only the short version as it applies to mankind.  That previous six days of creation could have easily been billions of years in our own perception.



kind of like a new york minute . . . but now we have something even faster, a god's year
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
Prior to the existence of Earth, how long was a year?
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on March 08, 2010, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 08, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:22:51 PM
This is the scientific consensus, but what is the religious consensus?  Are you trying to tell me the earth is older that what the Bible says?

How old does the Bible say it is?

I guess I just inferred the seven day thing.  If man was made on the seventh day, then the first day had to be the earth.  I don't remember reading about giant maneating reptiles in the bible.


Wow, I always thought they all died in a freak boating accident...

As for the 7 "days" in the Bible, you'll do well to remember that time is a man made concept. In the world of God and advanced science there really is no time.  As humans we see life as if watching a parade pass by, one float at a time, we don't recall the beginning and can't see the end.  God, as an ET, would see that same parade as if from the air, beginning, end, or middle, without regards to our "time" limitations.

So what is time? If a tree falls in the forest...  What is the sound of one hand clapping? If you think you heard a flower, it's a flower that you heard.


OCKLAWAHA

they did all die in a boating accident!  they were in a tow boat behind Noah, the flood waters were coming up to fast and he had to cut them loose to stay afloat.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 08, 2010, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
Prior to the existence of Earth, how long was a year?


this reminds me of my high school psychology teacher, he used to have his classroom clock covered with a "time is an illusion" banner.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 03:15:54 PM
When I was young and full of grace
And spirited - a rattlesnake
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You're on your honor not to tell

I believe in coyotes and time as an abstract
Explain the change, the difference between
What you want and what you need, there's the key,
Your adventure for today, what do you do
Between the horns of the day?


I believe my shirt is wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

When I was young and give and take
And foolish said my fool awake
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You're on your honor, on your honor
Trust in your calling, make sure your calling's true
Think of others, the others think of you
Silly rule golden words make, practice, practice makes perfect,
Perfect is a fault, and fault lines change

I believe my humor's wearing thin
And change is what I believe in
I believe my shirt is wearing thin
And change is what I believe in

When I was young and full of grace
As spirited a rattlesnake
When I was young and fever fell
My spirit, I will not tell
You're on your honor, on your honor
I believe in example
I believe my throat hurts
Example is the checker to the key

I believe my humor's wearing thin
And I believe the poles are shifting

Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Sportmotor on March 08, 2010, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
^ the moon will get us before global warming does


The moon is actually moving further away from the earth, not towards it so I doubt the moon will get us at all. :P
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 09, 2010, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: buckethead on March 08, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
Prior to the existence of Earth, how long was a year?


In relation to what?  A year is the time it takes fot the Earth to revolve around the sun.  Years are different on each planet.  On Mercury or Venus we would be much older but on Mars we would be much younger.  :)
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: buckethead on March 09, 2010, 10:06:09 AM
 I used a rhetorical question to make the same point you just illustrated.

Before any planetary system was in place, there was no such means of quantifying the passage of time.

Certain theories state that time is in fact an abstract, and all moments in time exist at once.

For evidenciary support click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-smlahwUjw)
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 09, 2010, 10:39:08 AM
Ahhh, I gotcha.

Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Dog Walker on March 09, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
The arrow of entropy says that time does exist and that it has a direction.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 09, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
^ I definitely agree with that one.  Still not sold on the whole "multiple parallel universe" thing.

Just as distance is measured many different ways, so is time.  Distance is still distance and time is still time.  Neither can be realisitcally measured in a negative direction.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Doctor_K on March 09, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: Jason on March 09, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
Just as distance is measured many different ways, so is time.  Distance is still distance and time is still time.  Neither can be realisitcally measured in a negative direction.

Unless you crank the DeLorean up to 88 mph, of course!

The article pretty much already supports the leading theory of dinosaur mass-extinction.  Nice to know all those archaeologists and paleontologists have labored so long for a good reason.  Wonder what they'll find next?
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 09, 2010, 11:39:39 AM
QuoteThe article pretty much already supports the leading theory of dinosaur mass-extinction.  Nice to know all those archaeologists and paleontologists have labored so long for a good reason.  Wonder what they'll find next?

Now if they could just get a political/religious movement on par with global warming we could put forth a true global scientific effort to defend this planet against something that we know is sure to happen and cause a mass extinction of life.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Doctor_K on March 09, 2010, 12:28:03 PM
Hear hear!
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Bostech on March 09, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
If meteor struck and killed every dinosaurs at once then shouldn't we have boneyard with remains dating at same time?
It should be all on one pile.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 09, 2010, 12:54:30 PM
Did anyone else check out the "Asteroids: Deadly Impact" video at the bottom of the article?  That is certainly some eye opening information!
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 09, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
QuoteIf meteor struck and killed every dinosaurs at once then shouldn't we have boneyard with remains dating at same time?

It has happened more than once... and will happen again. :)
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Dog Walker on March 09, 2010, 02:57:10 PM
"All at once" on a geological time scale could be a fairly long time, say decades.  Lots dead from immediate impact, lots more dead from the aftereffects over a longer period of time.  Takes a while for an ecology to collapse and close off formerly viable niches.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 09, 2010, 03:00:20 PM
The good news is we will likely see it coming... for days and even weeks... unfortunately... we will be unable to do a damn thing about it. :)
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 09, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: Sportmotor on March 08, 2010, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
^ the moon will get us before global warming does


The moon is actually moving further away from the earth, not towards it so I doubt the moon will get us at all. :P

the moon pulling away is the issue.  The further away it gets, the more the earth's rotation will wobble, the more it wobbles, the f'ed up the climate becomes, eventually killing off life forms and humans.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Jason on March 09, 2010, 04:57:10 PM
BT, if you watch the video I referenced in my post above you'll see the experts mention that we likely won't even see it coming.  There are only a few hundred or thousand we know about that have crossing orbits and it was predicted that there are many many more that we haven't found yet.
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: JaxNative68 on March 09, 2010, 05:01:47 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 09, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
QuoteIf meteor struck and killed every dinosaurs at once then shouldn't we have boneyard with remains dating at same time?

It has happened more than once... and will happen again. :)

Thank God Bruce Willis is still alive!
Title: Re: 'Dream Team' Agrees Huge Asteroid Killed Dinosaurs
Post by: Sportmotor on March 09, 2010, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 09, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: Sportmotor on March 08, 2010, 05:37:16 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on March 05, 2010, 05:39:39 PM
^ the moon will get us before global warming does


The moon is actually moving further away from the earth, not towards it so I doubt the moon will get us at all. :P

the moon pulling away is the issue.  The further away it gets, the more the earth's rotation will wobble, the more it wobbles, the f'ed up the climate becomes, eventually killing off life forms and humans.

I know :P I saw the special and did the digging on it, also the neighbor Galaxy is on a collision course with ours which will kill us all too assuming we don't kill eachother before then, I actually would find that more fascinating way to go then anything.