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Title: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on February 16, 2010, 06:08:27 AM
Exploring JAXPORT

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Established in 1963 and already one of the largest commercial cargo ports on the Atlantic Coast, JAXPORT seeks to become a major economic engine in North Florida by continuing to be a premier diversified port with connections to major trade lanes throughout the world.


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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-feb-exploring-jaxport
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Post by: BridgeTroll on February 16, 2010, 08:08:53 AM
Great article and photo's!
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Post by: heights unknown on February 16, 2010, 08:19:41 AM
Industrial waste fart.

"HU"
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Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 16, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
Superb photos as usual.

What is ro/ro?
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Post by: Lunican on February 16, 2010, 08:34:25 AM
Roll On/Roll Off

QuoteRoll-on/roll-off (RORO or ro-ro) ships are vessels designed to carry wheeled cargo such as automobiles, trucks, semi-trailer trucks, trailers or railroad cars that are driven on and off the ship on their own wheels. This is in contrast to lo-lo (lift on-lift off) vessels which use a crane to load and unload cargo.

RORO vessels have built-in ramps which allow the cargo to be efficiently "rolled on" and "rolled off" the vessel when in port. While smaller ferries that operate across rivers and other short distances still often have built-in ramps, the term RORO is generally reserved for larger ocean-going vessels. The ramps and doors may be stern-only, or bow and stern for quick loading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-on/roll-off
Title: Re: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: Jason on February 16, 2010, 08:44:35 AM
I learn something new everyday, thanks to this site!

Well done.
Title: Re: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 09:56:50 AM
This is the the kind of economic development Jacksonville should direct resources to, rather than thinking a professional sports franchise or stadium expansions will provide the kinds of high-paying employment that the port does.
Title: Re: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: brapt on February 16, 2010, 10:31:53 AM
finehoe,

Can't we have all of these things?  Don't they both contribute either directly or indirectly to many high-paying jobs in the city?
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Post by: Lunican on February 16, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
The port needs to dredge the river to really move forward, but there is opposition due to environmental concerns.
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Post by: Ocklawaha on February 16, 2010, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 09:56:50 AM
This is the the kind of economic development Jacksonville should direct resources to, rather than thinking a professional sports franchise or stadium expansions will provide the kinds of high-paying employment that the port does.


In so many ways our port puts us just inches from "World Class" city, with every potential to take us over the top. While not recession or depression proof, Port related employment is far more stable then most other jobs, leaving Jacksonville financially stronger then many of our larger neighbors to the south in times like these. Nationally, consider the weather Savannah (and points north) have slogged through this winter, and you'll get a clue as to why the Federal Government has quietly designated us as a "Super-Port", and why the industry has called us "The Port Of Gold." Location, Location, Location? If you go south of Jaxport, you add rail or highway miles to every shipment out, and if you go north of Jaxport, you involve not only ice, and snow, but a record for more hurricane strikes. Then there is the whole "their port - our port," argument, in which Jax operates as a landlord port, with carriers free to operate their own terminals, and everybody else, operates the terminals FOR the carriers.

JAXPORT is WIN, WIN, WIN.

When I hear light hearted jabs like HU took above, I think he wrote that on a computer made where? and imported through what port?



OCKLAWAHA

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Post by: kells904 on February 16, 2010, 10:46:58 AM
finehoe....I don't wanna beat the "we need a franchise" drum, because what you're saying is totally logical.  However, it's my opinion that having the franchise may tilt a company's decision toward setting up shop here instead of somewhere else. Surely it helps sell the city as "a community on the rise" or whatever, which is why it's a part of the city's sales pitch on coj.net. For all we know, it might have already done the trick at some point in the past.
Title: Re: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: brapt on February 16, 2010, 10:31:53 AM
Can't we have all of these things? 

Of course we can, but there is no comparison between the number of stable, well-paying jobs a humming port creates when compared to the number that come with a pro sports team.
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Post by: brapt on February 16, 2010, 12:00:29 PM
QuoteOf course we can, but there is no comparison

No doubt, but it certainly can't hurt to upkeep an NFL presence as a draw to other avenues of $$$, many detailed by kells904's comments above.

The more I read and keep up with MJ the more I am convinced we do have the makings of a "World-Class" City, we just need to convince ourselves, our leadership and the rest of the world of it with intelligent (re)design.
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Post by: djaffee on February 16, 2010, 12:03:14 PM
Thanks for the report on Jaxport and the great photos.
This is one of the most significant sources of economic dynamism for the region, so it deserves coverage and attention. It is also important for the community to understand the implications, and costs and benefits, of a port economy.

For further information along these lines, check out The Ports Project website at UNF.
http://www.unf.edu/coas/cci/ports/index.htm

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Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 16, 2010, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: brapt on February 16, 2010, 10:31:53 AM
Can't we have all of these things? 

Of course we can, but there is no comparison between the number of stable, well-paying jobs a humming port creates when compared to the number that come with a pro sports team.

I don't think anyone who's passionate about the Jaguars on this forum would disagree with you. 

But kells904 is absolutely right, as is the converse of what kells is saying.  Having a team cemented the city's status as an up-and-coming player in the 1990s.  Losing one would be devastating to its local and national image, and could have a deleterious effect on business growth and human capital.
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Post by: Overstreet on February 16, 2010, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 09:56:50 AM......This is the the kind of economic development Jacksonville should direct resources to, rather than thinking a professional sports franchise or stadium expansions will provide the kinds of high-paying employment that the port does.........

Where have you been? They've been working on it for years. If it were an either or decison this might be valid. But it is not. They have to work economic devleopment on many levels and playing fields. Otherwise they'd be "putting all their eggs in one basket."
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Post by: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
I guess I didn't make my point very well.  Yes, having professional sports teams lend a certain air of "having made it" to a city, and can be useful in marketing said city.  My post wasn't meant to be read as the Jaguars (or any other team) are worthless, or anything like that.  What I’m trying to point out is our priorities.  A great deal of time, money, and effort is often expended on trying to attract things of ephemeral value, but a commensurate amount of effort (to my knowledge) hasn't been expended on developing and promoting a resource with a much greater impact on the local economy.  Yes we can do both, but it seems that too often we concentrate too much on "feel good" projects and too little on "the real deal".
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Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 16, 2010, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: finehoe on February 16, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
Yes we can do both, but it seems that too often we concentrate too much on "feel good" projects and too little on "the real deal".

Unfortunately, that certainly seems to be the case quite often with downtown development.
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Post by: thelakelander on February 16, 2010, 01:45:19 PM
This is why I'm a big fan of bringing passenger rail back to Jax.  The spin-off economic benefits from the investment would be much larger than most tend to imagine.
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Post by: Keith-N-Jax on February 17, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
Great article on the ports. Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Peyton sit down and talk to 'Kraft' the owner of the Patriots during our SB. With no Jaguars does this meeting even take place. Alot of these owners are very rich and have many other bussiness. You never know what bussiness might spin off a casual conversation at a football game about shipping through our port vs somewhere else or starting another bussiness right in our downtown. Were lucky to have such a nice port and NFL.
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Post by: RainDoggie on February 19, 2010, 05:06:57 AM
No joke.  I just finished re-watching season 2 of The Wire and the whole time I was thinking "gosh, I don't really know anything about JAXPORT.  I wish MetroJacksonville.com would do a post on this topic to help educate me".  Ah, the internets never let me down.  And neither do you MetroJacksonville.com.  Thanks for a good article and for your awesome psychic abilities. 
(for those who don't know, season 2 of The Wire primarily focused on a commercial cargo seaport in Baltimore, the struggles of the port's stevedores, and a corrupt officer of their union)
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Post by: billy on February 19, 2010, 06:24:15 AM
you left out the dead russian hookers in one of the cans.....
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Post by: stjr on February 20, 2010, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: Lunican on February 16, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
The port needs to dredge the river to really move forward, but there is opposition due to environmental concerns.

From what I have read, the environmental concerns can be significant, especially with respect to changing the salinity of the river.  We may be forced to ask, "Do we advance the port or kill the ecology of the river?".  I firmly believe the river's ecology trumps port interests if it comes down to this.
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Post by: Ocklawaha on February 20, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
A JAXPORT IDEA...

There exists along Talleyrand a court of flags, from various international trading partners that visit JAXPORT. While I believe the court to be part of the Crowley Maritime Terminal, the concept would serve the entire Port Authority well. Those of us who are expatriate's can testify to the truth of the warm fuzzies one gets when observing ones flag flying far from home.

In this regard we have an opportunity and a need to flaunt what we have in JaxPort. Why not line the BAY-TALLEYRAND stretch from the Jaxport offices at Talleyrand and 21St Street, all the way to Bay and Main  with the flags of EVERY Jaxport trading partner. (another similar display down Hecksher Drive would impress the hell out of cruise passengers)  A colorful ribbon on top of each flagpole, or streetlight flag arm, would proclaim the countries and perhaps their motto such as:

COLOMBIA, Peace and Order

A second ribbon could contain the name of the carrier, and or the customers names. A nautical plaque above or below the flag pole or streetlight flag fixture, would hold the name of the sponsor of that particular flag display.

Do we have an artist onboard that could post a little rendering? What do y'all think?


OCKLAWAHA
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Post by: urbanlibertarian on February 20, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
People's Republic of China


(http://www.worldmapsinfo.com/flags/1205815591fChina_flag(1).gif)
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Post by: Ocklawaha on February 20, 2010, 07:52:30 PM
(http://www.newspapercountry.com/Colombia.png)

COLOMBIA = Coffee, Coal, Lumber, shoes, lingerie, fruit, oil, orchids, LG Appliances, flowers, Old Hippie Railroad Planners = inbound to USA

Auto's, Railroad Equipment, plastics, machinery, computers = outbound to Colombia



OCKLAWAHA


Title: Re: Exploring JAXPORT
Post by: finehoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:08 AM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on February 20, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
A JAXPORT IDEA...
Why not line the BAY-TALLEYRAND stretch from the Jaxport offices at Talleyrand and 21St Street, all the way to Bay and Main  with the flags of EVERY Jaxport trading partner. (another similar display down Hecksher Drive would impress the hell out of cruise passengers)  A colorful ribbon on top of each flagpole, or streetlight flag arm, would proclaim the countries and perhaps their motto

I LOVE this idea!
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Post by: mtraininjax on May 20, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
My wife and I heard Rick Ferrin discuss Jaxport at the Selva Marina today. He spoke for 45 minutes and then took questions. Many people were complaining about dredging and how it affects the coquina at Mayport, others complained that the automated system at the new Hanjin terminal will result in fewer jobs. Rick said that the port jobs average 45k when the average in Jax is under 30k. So good paying jobs. Rick said that the new cruise terminal will NOT be paid for by taxpayers, he will find a way to pay for it with revenue from the passenger tax AND make sure that the payments cover the debt service. He hopes to build the new facility at between 30 and 60 million. He has a few sites in mind, and NO parking deck, will use parking lots to contain the cars.

Rick did say that the once the port dredges to accompany post-panamax ships will allow Jax to become the 3rd largest port on the east coast. Right now Jax handles about 800,000 containers, Savannah processes 2.4 million containers. Jax did process the 2nd most vehicles on the east coast in 2009. Cruise revenue is about 10-20% of his overall revenue, and he does not want to lose it. He is committed to finding a solution for the cruise terminal. Right now the port provides 65,000 direct and indirect jobs, and a 19 billion dollar impact. He hopes that when the port is dredged, Hanjin and Matsui alone will provide between 1.8 and 1.9 million containers and provide up to 100,000 jobs.

He also wanted to know if Stephen wanted to take over the ferry, as they lose $50,000 per month on the ferry.  ;D
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Post by: thelakelander on May 20, 2010, 10:50:43 PM
If they locate the cruise terminal at Mayport, it should send a few more drivers their way to cut down on the ferry subsidy.
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Post by: pwhitford on October 28, 2010, 10:29:52 AM
Another lost opportunity for JAXPORT?  Why weren't we there first?  Can we still strike a deal like this as the first port outside the Gulf or on the Atlantic seaboard?  Someone needs to get moving over there...

Panama Canal Authority Signs Partnership Agreement With the Port of Galveston

Wednesday, October 27th, 2010

Alliance Aims to Foster International Trade and Generate New Business by Promoting the "All-Water Route"

Panama Canal Authority (ACP) Administrator/CEO Alberto Alemán Zubieta and Port of Galveston Director Steven M. Cernak (pictured) signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) during an official ceremony in Panama City, Panama today. Held at the ACP Administration Building and attended by senior officials, the event marked the beginning of a new partnership between the two entities. The MOU aims to facilitate international trade and generate new business by promoting the “All-Water Route,” the route from Asia to the U.S. East and Gulf Coasts via the Panama Canal.

“Today’s MOU signing further emphasizes our commitment to provide quality service and meet the demands of the global trade and cruise industries,” said Mr. Alemán Zubieta. “We look forward to building upon our existing relationship with the Port of Galveston, which is a strategic geographic partner located only nine miles from the open Gulf of Mexico. We will work to maximize this agreement to continue providing innovative solutions for our customers and promoting growth for our respective regions.”

The MOU includes initiatives in joint marketing, data interchange, market studies, modernization and improvements, training and technological interchange. Collaborative activities could include joint advertising, cross-training, or information-sharing regarding select trade-related data and forecasting.

In an effort to sustain economic growth and generate new business and job opportunities, the ACP and the Port of Galveston, which is situated on the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway, will undertake a series of activities aimed at improving customer service and business practices.

“As the ‘Gateway to the Gulf,’ the Port of Galveston facilitates the movement of a varied mix of domestic and international cargo, generating an economic impact of more than $1 billion annually to the State of Texas,” said Mr. Cernak. “We, too, look forward to this new partnership with the ACP and the opportunities it will bring for continued fiscal growth and viability for both Panama and Texas.”

This strategic alliance is valid for two years and is renewable upon mutual agreement.

The Panama Canal, which recently commemorated its one-millionth transit, is currently undergoing a historic $5.25 billion expansion. The project will add a new lane of traffic with the construction of a new set of locks, doubling the capacity of the waterway and allowing for the transit of longer, wider ships.

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Post by: pwhitford on February 07, 2011, 01:57:23 PM
IS ANYONE LISTENING?!?!?!:


FLORIDA URGED TO DEVELOP PORT CHANNELS
   More than 60 percent of Asian imports bound for Florida’s fast-growing consumer market are carried into the state by rail or truck from out-of-state ports.  A new study by the Florida Chamber Foundation recommends a series of measures to turn the state into a trade and logistics hub. It says the state should speed up investment to deepen channel depth at one seaport to 50 feet and build on-dock or near-dock rail so that by 2014, when the Panama Canal completes its expansion, it can become a first port of call for inbound ships from Asia. This would cut the estimated cost of shipping a 40-foot container from Hong Kong to Florida to $3,000, compared with the $3,200 to $3,500 it costs to ship an FEU to the state by rail from Los Angeles.  (The Journal of Commerce, 1/31/2011.)

AGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!
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Post by: pwhitford on February 07, 2011, 02:19:51 PM
Port official sees partial fix to Mile Point, Estimated at $3.5 million

01/27/2011
by Karen Brune Mathis
Managing Editor

A top Jacksonville Port Authority executive told a community think tank Wednesday that the Mile Point navigational impediment could be partially fixed by early next year.

That would be one of several steps that the port and its supporters say are required for Jacksonville to compete in global trade and create thousands of jobs.

Mile Point is where the St. Johns River intersects with the Intracoastal Waterway, creating a hydraulic effect that limits the time that maritime interests say it’s safe to navigate to reach port terminals.

JPA Chief Operating Officer Chris Kauffmann said U.S. Rep. John Mica, chair of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, arranged for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to implement repairs at Mile Point. Mica is a Florida Republican.

Kauffmann told a Jacksonville Community Council Inc. study committee that Mica arranged for the Corps to use annual operation and maintenance funds to remove half of a wall that was installed in the river at Mile Point “a century ago.”

Kauffman also said that the first phase could cost $3.5 million. Construction could start Oct. 1 and be completed in three months.

JCCI’s “Recession Recovery and Beyond” committee is meeting to determine how the seven-county Northeast Florida region can create durable jobs in the wake of the long economic downturn.

Kauffmann was one of three speakers Wednesday, along with retired U.S. Navy Capt. Aaron Bowman and Dr. Yank Coble, chair of the Healthcare and Bioscience Council of Northeast Florida and director of the Center for Global Health and Medical Diplomacy at the University of North Florida. They discussed jobs created by the Navy and the area’s medical and health care sector.

However, the port has been a dominant discussion in economic development circles.

For example, the Jacksonville Regional Chamber of Commerce chose the port as one of its major focuses this year and the First Coast Manufacturers Association has been calling for an additional local sales tax to help fund the port’s estimated $1.5 billion infrastructure needs.

Kauffmann said ships have a four-hour window twice a day, depending on tides, to navigate through Mile Point.

Correcting Mile Point is a start to what the port and its growing list of outspoken advocates say is necessary to position Jacksonville to attract the larger vessels, particularly from Asian shippers, that will travel through the expanded Panama Canal in a few years.

Those ships no longer would need to stop on the West Coast to unload and load cargo for distribution by truck and rail and instead could travel directly to the East Coast.

An even larger issue is deepening the St. Johns River channel to 50 feet, now maintained at 40 feet, to accommodate those ships.

Kauffmann said the port, which has three marine terminals along the St. Johns River, has a $19 billion economic impact on the area, including 65,000 direct, dependent and related jobs.

He told the JCCI committee that a deeper channel would allow the new TraPac Container Terminal at Dames Point and the planned Hanjin Shipping Co. Terminal to accommodate the larger ships.

TraPac is operating. Hanjin has delayed its construction in anticipation of the river deepening.

When both terminals are fully up and running, the additional ships and business would add jobs and economic growth, said Kauffmann.

“We could gain 75,000 more jobs at full capacity,” he said, and a $3 billion to $6 billion boost in economic impact.

“Without the deeper water to support post Panamax ships, we are losing out to the West Coast, Savannah and to some extent Charleston,” Kauffmann told the group.

“Everybody is understanding of this and support is what will make it a reality,” he said.

Kauffmann said the estimated dredging cost is $750 million, with the federal government to pay for two-thirds and the local share to be a third.

“We are working closely with state and local government” for the local share, he said. A visit this week by Gov. Rick Scott was a step in that direction.

Kauffman said 75,000 jobs “is going very far to support his 700,000 jobs in seven years,” he said, referring to Scott’s campaign pledge to create Florida employment. Scott said he would see what funds are available from federal sources.

Kauffmann said that the dredging at the Mayport Naval Station for a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is already taken care of by the federal government, which leaves it up to the port and local government to determine how to deepen the remaining 11-12 miles to Dames Point.

Kauffmann said the Corps, which must wait on appropriations and authorizations, could complete the dredging in 2017, although the port wants to speed up that process. The Panama Canal expansion is scheduled for completion in 2014.

After the speakers concluded and left the room, the JCCI committee summarized its main points.

“We need to convince somebody else to come here and spend their money,” said a JCCI member.

“Would you pay a half-a-cent sales tax and raise our own money to dredge it?” asked study Chair Elaine Brown, a past City Council president.

“We have to find a way,” said the member.
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Post by: JaxAvondale on September 27, 2017, 02:25:55 AM
I didn't realize that most goods shipped to Puerto Rico came through Jacksonville first.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/hurricane-puerto-rico-jones-act.html?_r=0&referer=https://t.co/ah0PsaW0W4?amp=1