Post some weird,unusal,strange or just cool pictures of public transportations.
Here are some to begin with.
Bosnia or Croatia ,guy hanging at back of full tram.
They sure love their public transport.
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Somewhere in Austria. :-)
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British I believe.
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Just cool...Spain I believe.
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Someone left door open in Russia. :-)
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No pants day on US subway.
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Tram in dt Zagreb in night.
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Bit crowded in Japan.
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Gotta love the piggy bank!
Stand back, Bos. Oklawaha must have a server room full of pictures of transportation of all sorts and you are about to see the great mother of all photo slapdowns.
Can't wait!
Dog Walker..........I agree! I would bet Ock has transportation vehicles dating back to oxcarts!
US Senate Subway
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http://www.paleofuture.com/blog/2009/4/6/us-senate-monorail-1912.html
Quote from: CS Foltz on January 17, 2010, 01:01:41 PM
Dog Walker..........I agree! I would bet Ock has transportation vehicles dating back to oxcarts!
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LaVilla "Rapid Transit" 1890. Actually this is probably a local delivery service working from our first Union Station.
The tree line ended about where I-95 is today, though there were still spotty trees in LaVilla well into the 1960's. West of I-95 was two cross-roads neighborhoods, "The Brick Yard" (roughly where Myrtle goes under the railroad today) and "Brick Church," around where Beaver Street goes over the railroad. Both Brick Yard, and Brick Church were involved in battles during The War of Yankee Aggression. When things got to hot to handle by the US Army, a massive earthworks was thrown up from the mouth of McCoys Creek to: Union Terminal, to Davis and Union, to Main and Hogans Creek, to Union and Hogans Creek, to the mouth of Hogans Creek. The first Confederate officer to fall was in the "Battle of Brick Church," an infantry fight. The other battle was called "The Battle of McCoys Creek," it was a running calvary fight. The Ox Cart highways were quickly replaced by "The Jacksonville and LaVilla Street Railway."
Nice shots Bos, keep em coming. OCKLAWAHA
Ock, take a look at that Spanish tram that Bos posted. The doors are really close to the ground and eliminate the need for a platform or climbing steps or kneeling buses. I presume that they are so low to the ground because there is no running gear or motors under the passenger compartments.
Do they use hub motors in the wheels or something like that for power or is there some sort of tractor, first car?
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Coyote on the subway in Portland. This seat taken?
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m497 black beetle jet train!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M497 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M497)
More pictures: http://thecontaminated.com/m-497-jettrain/ (http://thecontaminated.com/m-497-jettrain/)
And when you put these two together,you get this.
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Quote from: Dog Walker on January 17, 2010, 04:07:55 PM
Ock, take a look at that Spanish tram that Bos posted. The doors are really close to the ground and eliminate the need for a platform or climbing steps or kneeling buses. I presume that they are so low to the ground because there is no running gear or motors under the passenger compartments.
Do they use hub motors in the wheels or something like that for power or is there some sort of tractor, first car?
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This is one of the wheel assemblies from the Seattle SLUT. From streetcars to Diesel electric's the power motor is generally along the axle, between the wheels. On locomotives, as the wheels are darn near man size, one can get an idea of the size of electric motors slung beneath the floor.
Dog Walker, this is one of the new LOW-FLOOR streetcars, in use in the USA as well as Europe. As a bit of background, STREETCARS and Electric Interurban Railroads, buses and trolley boats, are all rooted in an American Invention.
Frank Sprague, born in CT in 1857, became a Navy Ensign, where he invented the shipboard dynamo. He worked for Edison's labs, and using math rather then tinkering (something aparently not appreciated by the boss) he invented the constant speed, spark less, electric motor, which used brushes (today's motors are virtually unchanged from Sprague's invention). He left Edison and moved to Richmond, Virginia, a city with 100 hills, and every one of them a 0-10% grade, making for a nearly impossible situation for the mule drawn streetcars. In an idea perhaps founded in sports fishing, Sprague invented a trolling pulley on an electric wire above the street. The pulley was connected to the streetcar with a rope cable, exactly as a fisherman "Trolls for Fish." The pulley evolved into Spragues spring loaded "Trollin' Pole" in 1880, and within a couple of years that phrase was corrupted into the common term TROLLEY. In 1884, Sprague founded The Sprague Electric Railway & Motor Company. In 1887-88, track laying was complete and the new Railway demonstrated the ability to climb hills without cable cars! It was a unbelievable success, and his patents spread like a wild fire across the USA and the world. By 1886, Sprague, had engineered a way to return power to the lines using what would someday become Dynamic Braking and Regeneration. By 1889, over 110 railways had converted to the Sprague system, including The JACKSONVILLE STREET RAILWAY, MAIN STREET RAILWAY, JACKSONVILLE AND LAVILLA STREET RAILWAY.
Several designs came out in the very early 1900's for a low floor streetcar, that would be attractive to "little ladies." It was felt that the "fairer sex" needed relief from the 3 or 4 step climb to floor level. Another driving factor was the enormous number of elderly crippled men that populated our country between 1900 and 1940. These men were veterans of The War of Yankee Aggression, and to give you an idea, fully 1/3 of the state budget of Mississippi during this time went into the purchase of prosthetic arms and legs for our aging Confederates.
The most successful of these cars was known as the PETER WITT, many were built from 1925-30. Take a Photo Tour:(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/San_Francisco_Peter_Witt_at_foot_of_Market.jpg)
1928 Model, Peter Witt, low floor, center door car on the "F" line in San Francisco.(http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/43831/2754060200104969885S600x600Q85.jpg)
A Bingham/Belt Line Peter Witt from the TTC in Canada, Do these boyz know how to restore a streetcar!(http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/45706/2126089810104969885S600x600Q85.jpg)
This is the "cheat sheet" showing the private parts of a classic Peter Witt. (http://www.american-rails-forums.com/AR%20Images/Fallen%20Flags/PE_Logo.jpg)
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Several Variations, two railroads, two gauges, ONE CITY - HOLLYWOOD CA. The LA RY narrow gauge Peter Witt Yellow Car, is turning on Hollywood Bl, for the tunnel. Slightly ahead of it the standard gauge Interurban Pacific Electric "Hollywood" car is heading into the tunnel, and hence the Subway into downtown LA. In the background, across the intersection, one can see another "Hollywood Car", maybe young OCK was inside? These were the first rails that I ever explored or rode. (http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/insidehollywood.jpg)
GOT SPACE? This old view of a PE Hollywood Car, is WAY DIFFERENT then JTA's new BRT buses. (http://www.oerm.org/pages/PE_stack_at_Terminal_Island.jpg)
After GENERAL MOTORS, FIRESTONE, GOODYEAR, PHILLIPS, STANDARD OIL'S, "NATIONAL CITY LINES", bought out the Pacific Electric's 1,200 miles of LRT/Interurban in the Los Angeles basin, they couldn't wait to change over to freeway based transportation and buses. Meanwhile down on Terminal Island (PORT OF LOS ANGELES/LONG BEACH) THIS is what they did to the old public servants. The Pacific Electric built Los Angeles, the entire basin was one giant TOD, the public was outraged to the point of open revolt, but for the PE, it was over in 1963 and the wires came down.(http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/38271/2311451170104969885S600x600Q85.jpg)
This beautiful shot of another Hollywood Car, on some of the hundreds of miles of private track still in operation in the late 50's and into the edge of the 1960's. Check out that paint scheme on the old gal and remember it. (http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/45379/2489713720104969885S600x600Q85.jpg)
Fast forward 35 years and BILLIONS of dollars later, and one can get a hint of what that public demanded. "The Public doesn't want rail, they HATE rail..." Mike Miller at the JTA/BRT Community Meetings... SURE THEY DO MIKE! WHY THE EVIDENCE OF THE ROMANCE IT WRITTEN ALL OVER THE FACE OF THIS NEW LOS ANGELES, LRV. (http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/46625/2628075820104969885S600x600Q85.jpg)
The local news media in Los Angeles also hates rail... Uh? Oh! Read it and weep Mike!(http://www.railwaypreservation.com/PE1046.jpg)
So what can we do in Jacksonville? Well for starters, look in every back yard, side yard, farm and lot from St. Augustine to Starke to Valdosta to Savannah... all area's known to have hidden some of Jacksonvilles retired trolleys. Oh and GUESS WHAT IS IN THIS BOX? YEP! All 57,000 pounds of it!OCKLAWAHA
Blackpool Boat Tram in San Francisco.
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Standing room only....
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Excellent thead idea Bos!
Keep 'em comming!
Just makes me sick to see what other cities are doing and we are not. An interurban from the beaches to downtown would look like those train pictures from India; people on the roof and sides.
They should get double decker trains for those in India.
Or just run longer trains. Talk about unsafe...
Those are older pictures. A lot of the Indian train system has been upgraded and that kind of sight is no longer common. The stations remain an absolute sea of humanity and the third class carriages are crowded.
However, somewhere I have pictures (which I will try to find and post here) of the huge Tata buses that are used in the cities in India. They are totally packed and have led to the development of womens' only buses because of the problem of what the Indian newspapers politely call "gropers".
Being the biggest things on the city streets, they have the absolute right-of-way and all of them have large, ominous looking scrape marks down their sides. They bull their way through the traffic no matter what.
Bos, height of the tunnels and stations, which date back to the time of the British rule, keep them from running double decker trains. Until interior air service was privatized in India in the late '90's, the trains were the only reliable way to get around in the interior of the sub-continent at all. Indian Air, the gov't run interior air service was a farce. Business people I knew used to fly on an international carrier from Delhi to Bangkok and then on another international carrier from Bangkok to Madras. It was more expensive, but was reliable and you didn't have to pay bribes to get a seat.
Indian air?
Do they have people hanging on wings and tail of plane while flying? :-)
No, as a matter of fact, after we paid a bribe to get a seat on the "full flight" that we had booked months before, we discovered that the plane was barely half full. For most people in India, flying is too expensive and the train is the only way to go and in third class at that.
In our experience the trains were on time and reliable, just not too fast. We were in second class (open windows, no air conditioning, but padded seats) just pulling into the Delhi station, when a man jumped up from beside the track, held onto the window frame for a moment and snatched a gold chain from the neck of a woman sitting next to the window. Every man in the car rushed to help her, but it was over so fast there was nothing anyone could do. If the thief had been caught the on-the-spot justice would have been tough!
Ock - Can you post a picture of NS's new GP 38 that is an ALL BATTERY POWERED unit? There is a nice one in Trains magazine this month.
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Actually it's a BP-4, they only used a frame of a GP-38 to build it. It uses regenerative braking to recharge it's batterys, out of Altoona, it looks like a BROOKVILLE product (an old and small builder suddenly in the big leagues). The engine follows a tradition in that region of experimental locomotives, Norfolk Western and Pennsy's turbines, the Chessie's Jawn Henry, even the Baldwin Centipedes and DT series experiments.
By the way, the famous 999 was a New York Central world speed record holder.
OCKLAWAHA
Here is an entire web site devoted to pictures of "People of Public Transit". I am sure if you peruse long enough, you will find one to surprise or amuse you: http://www.peopleofpublictransit.com/
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JTA's $ky-high-way fantasy as art? About as bad as the real deal!(http://lipmagazine.org/ccarlsson/archives/noe_valley_mural_vertical-transit-stop_2201.jpg)
Top this for "space age":(http://earthfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bizarre-green-flying-saucer.jpg)
Something a little more pleasing to the eye: a public transit greenway.(http://www.wickedreport.com/images/Green-Railways01.jpg)
And, more green:(http://earthfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/emerald-express-1.jpg)
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Could the Emerald Express be the future of public transit in America? That’s what the Virginia tech students who created the concept are hoping. Phil Padilla, Irfan Bhimji, Catherine Crenshaw, Matthew Decker and Aly Moreno designed a passenger rail system that uses the GenSet (GP-38) locomotive as the primary propulsion platform.
From Ecofriend:
This rail system would be used for both regional and intercity transportation. With a top speed of 100 mph and capacity for 250-350 passengers, the train would provide a cost-effective and environmentally-friendly form of transportation for many people in the state of Virginia and surrounding areas.
The primary focus of the Emerald Xpress is to offer passengers a holistic brand experience, both on and off the train. The brand experience begins with the exterior design of the locomotive and passenger cars, is carried throughout the interior, and even reaches a personal level through membership cards and accounts. The name Emerald Xpress is meant to reflect the environmentally-friendly characteristics of the train, along with the luxury and comfort it would provide its passengers.
The design emphasizes comfort and convenience, providing passengers with ample storage and power outlets. It’s a pretty slick concept, echoing all of the things that are right about European rail systems.
Fast, efficient, up-to-date public transit may be closer than it seems â€" U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood recently predicted that high-paying jobs will be available for Americans building high speed rail systems by the end of this summer.
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Thanks!
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Actual bus in Copenhagen.
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You folks do realize how I'm minding my manners and not flooding this with 304,504,238 photos right?
OCKLAWAHA
Mtrain, thought you might like this on the ORIGINAL 999! Obviously the Norfolk Southern has set the bar pretty damn high for this new thoroughbred, I mean, they just don't make a 999 every day.
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The 999 Steam Locomotive was a new concept in high speed steam locomotives. The tall driving wheels (taller then a large man) are always evidence of a fast steam locomotive, while small drivers indicate power but not speed. Engine 999 was assigned to haul the New York Central Railroad's brilliant new passenger train, the Empire State Express. With orders from Commodore Vanderbilt himself, On May 10, 1893, the 999 became the fastest land vehicle when it reached a record speed of 112.5 mph. The 999 maintained the record for a decade. Obviously the old man was not yet frustrated enough with passenger rail for his most infamous thunderous outburst, "THE PUBLIC BE DAMNED!"
OCKLAWAHA
Its not amount of pictures that matters,its size.
Quote from: Ocklawaha on January 20, 2010, 12:29:28 AM
You folks do realize how I'm minding my manners and not flooding this with 304,504,238 photos right?
OCKLAWAHA
You could, however, grace us with a handful each day. :)