The city grinded the pavement down on Atlantic Blvd in the St Nicholas area several weeks ago. They have repaved a single lane on each side... do they plan on finishing anytime soon? Anybody know?
Or, who should I call to find out?
its too cold right now to do the work
people from up north are probably laughing at us right now.....
how so? my friends up north tell me they don't do road work in the winter.
exactly Charles...road paving is generally done when temps are at least 50 degrees.
This is how would roads look like if they were run by capitalists.
Paved line for wealthy and other two lines for rest of folks.
Checked with a friend who is a civil engineer who advised me that asphalt can generally be laid when temperatures are "40 and rising."
Of course the road was torn up well before the cold snap... but what can you do but suck it up and deal with it
I like driving on it,it reminds me of upstate NY.
Quote from: Bostech on January 12, 2010, 12:02:14 AM
This is how would roads look like if they were run by capitalists.
Paved line for wealthy and other two lines for rest of folks.
WOW. Only you could make a statement like that about a simple paving issue.
The communist road would be the same thing minus the one nice lane.
The Socialist road would have three nice lanes - however, the taxpayers would pay for one lane, and make the contractor give the poor nice cars that handled the poor road better.
No,in socialism all lines on road are white...and um no traffic.
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Quote from: tufsu1 on January 11, 2010, 08:04:17 AM
exactly Charles...road paving is generally done when temps are at least 50 degrees.
My experience as a "paving" councilman, that wrote several million in transportation grants in the Northwest Oklahoma Development District, taught me the same rules TU & Charles.
While we COULD pave anytime, if you wanted a job that lasted:
The hotter the better as far as surface temperature of the street
Cold pavement sets the tack strip prematurely removing the "sticky" bond to the subsurface, this allows water or dirt to get between the subsurface and the finished pavement allowing the top layer to loosen.
Rinse, and spotless sweeping for best pavement, the water needs to completely dry for best effect, though you CAN lay it in a light mist as the heat of the asphalt will burn off the water.
With the temperatures we've had over the last 2 weeks, consideration should be given to icing conditions. As most folks know from ice cubes, frozen water takes up more space then room temp water. So a cold spell moving in on a poorly sealed surface is a recipe for disaster, Every little hair line fracture that retains water will freeze, pushing apart the layers and breaking up the pavement.
So the optimum condition is:
CLEAN
DRY
HOT DAY
Finish with a quality seal coat. DON'T line the pavement until the seal coat has had 3-7 days to cure, otherwise depending on materials, the sealant can leach through the paint, ruining a lot of work. Oddly most contractors seem to ignore this, they are gone before one realizes the lines are vanishing into an oily gray soup.OCKLAWAHA
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-16/story/cold_halts_jacksonville_area_transportation_projects
QuoteThe freezing temperatures of the last two weeks have frustrated people not used to cold weather in Jacksonville. It also has frustrated efforts to move forward on road construction in the area.
Because poured pavement cannot dry properly in colder temperatures, at least three Florida Department of Transportation projects have found themselves at a standstill for the last two weeks...
Of course, we didn't anticipate it being this cold for this long," FDOT spokesman Mike Goldman said.
The resurfacing of Atlantic Boulevard from University Boulevard to Kings Avenue, the widening to six lanes of Butler Boulevard from Kernan Boulevard to San Pablo Road and the replacement of the railroad crossing at Kingsley Avenue and Doctors Lake Drive have all been delayed because of the cold. With the temperatures warming up, FDOT hopes to get all of them going again in the next few days....
The $3.8 million Atlantic Boulevard resurfacing project needs temperatures above 40 degrees, usually not a problem in Jacksonville. The project went on a two-week Christmas break but was supposed to restart Jan. 4. It finally began again Thursday night.
The project is expected to conclude this summer, and that date should still be met if there are no further delays, Goldman said...
Turns out it may be good (for me and my neighbors) that this project has been taking so long, because apparently they're going to be closing the median opening that leads right to my street. Meaning I'll have to drive several hundred feet up to the next light and make a U-turn. Apparently the RaceTrac (or is it a RaceWay now) is expanding to 20 pumps and is paying for some of the road work. At least that's how it was explained to me.
Looks like I'll have to send some emails and attend a city council meeting. Any advice for discussing the issue with my councilman? Beyond "closing this median would be really inconvenient for me"?