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Title: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 04, 2010, 02:31:22 AM
An amazing building, costing $1.5 billion, opening today.  Imagine what this could do for a downtown reviatalization  ;D:

(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/308116/big.jpg)

All excerpts and photos from: http://business.maktoob.com/20090000414410/Burj_cost_1_5_bln_to_build_already_in_black/Article.htm

QuoteThe Burj Dubai will feature the world's first hotel and apartments under the Armani brand, which will take up 18 of the tower's first 39 floors. The Italian fashion house has overseen all aspects of the interior design and style of the hotel and apartments.

The Armani Hotel includes 160 guest rooms and suites as well as an Armani branded restaurant, bar, spa and retail outlets. The Armani Residences, meanwhile, are kitted out with a special collection of furnishing from the designer's own line of home decor.

The tower also features 900 other apartments on floors 19 to 108. Residents will have access to amenities located on "Sky Lobbies" including fitness facilities, recreation rooms, a library, market and convenience store.

Corporate offices take up much of the higher floors between 111 and 159, with floors 156-159 reserved for broadcast and telecom companies. All offices come equipped with advanced communications and security infrastructure.

At least 13 floors - 8 percent of the tower's floors - are "mechanical floors" that house infrastructure such as electrical sub-stations, water tanks and pumps, and air-handling units needed for the operation of the tower. Most of the mechanical floors are double-storey height and located around every 30 floors.

Below is a floor plan of the Burj Dubai.

160 upwards - Mechanical
156-159 - Communication and Broadcast
155 - Mechanical
139-154 - The Corporate Suites
136-138 - Mechanical
125-135 - The Corporate Suites
124 - At The Top, Burj Dubai
123 - Sky Lobby
122 - At.mosphere, Burj Dubai
111-121 - The Corporate Suites
109-110 - Mechanical
77-108 - Residential
76 - Sky Lobby
73-75 - Mechanical
44-72 - Residential
43 - Sky Lobby
40-42 - Mechanical
38-39 - Armani Hotel suites
19-37 - The Residences
17-18 - Mechanical
9-16 - Armani Residences
1-8 - Armani Hotel
Ground - Armani Hotel
Concourse - Armani Hotel
B1-B2 - Parking, Mechanical
(All information supplied by Emaar Properties)

QuoteThe project took five years to complete and involved more than 30 on-site contracting companies and, at the peak of construction, over 12,000 workers and contractors representing more than 100 nationalities were on site daily.

In total construction will have taken 22 million man-hours.

Around 31,400 metric tonnes of steel rebar was used in the tower’s construction, which when laid end-to-end would extend over a quarter of the way around the world.

Close to 26,000 glass panels, each individually hand cut, were used in the aluminium and glass façade of the Burj Dubai. The total weight of aluminium used is equivalent to that of five Airbus A380 superjumbos.

Some 330,000 cubic metres of concrete was used in the tower’s construction, which included having to pump concrete to a height of 605 metres, a world record for concrete pumping.

Once operational, the Burj Dubai’s peak electrical demand is 36 MW, equal to about 360,000 100 Watt bulbs operating simultaneously.

About 10,000 tonnes of cooling is required for air conditioning, equal to the cooling capacity provided by about 10,000 tonnes of melting ice.

Dubai’s hot, humid climate combined with the building's cooling requirements will create a significant amount of condensation, which is collected and stored in a holding tank.

The condensation collection system can provide around 15 million gallons of supplementary water per year, equal to about 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools.

The tower's water system supplies an average of 946,000 litres of water daily.

Below is a list of other interesting figures about the Burj Dubai.

18 - Number of building maintenance cradles needed to clean the tower’s facade.
19 - Number of hectares of green landscaping around the foot of the tower.
49 - Number of office floors, including the 12-floor annexure.
57 - Number of elevators.
95 - Distance in kilometres at which Burj Dubai’s spire can still be seen.
124 - Floor location of ‘At The Top, Burj Dubai’, the world’s highest and only publicly accessible observation deck with an outdoor terrace.
160 - Number of luxury hotel rooms and suites.
200 - Height in metres of the spire at the top of the Burj Dubai.
504 - Distance travelled, or ‘rise’ in metres of Burj Dubai’s main service lift, the most of any elevator.
900 - Length in the feet of the world’s tallest performing fountain, the Dubai Fountain, that lies at the foot of the tower.
1,000 - Number of pieces of art from Middle Eastern and international artists that will adorn Burj Dubai and the surrounding Emaar Boulevard.
1,044 - Total number of residential apartments.
3,000 - Number of underground parking spaces.
5,500 - Capacity in kilograms of the tower’s service lift.
(All facts and figures supplied by Emaar Properties)

Quote(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/289668/big.jpg)
Special thanks to the Financial Times for this one. This is part of the global city advertising campaign run by the newspaper, a fictional metropolis made up of the world’s tallest and most iconic buildings. We have added the new boy in town… The Burj Dubai. It is, after all, bigger than all of them. Photograph: Financial Times/ Edited: Maktoob Business

Quote(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/289624/big.jpg)
The Burj Dubai in New York. The Burj dwarves New York City’s Empire State Building, which measures ‘just’ 381 metres in height. The Burj is more than double that at over 800 metres. Photograph: Getty Images / Edited: Maktoob Business

Quote(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/289652/big.jpg)
An areal view of Chicago with the Burj Dubai standing next to Willis Tower, formerly named Sears Tower, a 442 metres skyscraper. The Burj Dubai stands 1.8 times taller than Willis Tower. Photograph: Getty Images / Edited: Maktoob Business
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 04, 2010, 02:37:02 AM
Am I only one that thinks that Armani hotel is UGLY?
Dark,black and boring.

Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 10:31:09 AM
I've been following the construction of this thing ever since I heard about it a few years ago.  Absolute dwarfdom in every since of the word!  Imagine that tower in downtown Jacksonville; everything below it would look like apartment flats.  Dubai has since fallen on hard times as has most of the world with many projects coming to a screeching halt.  It appears most of the proposed and approved projects won't even make the drawing board now; only those that were under construction when the economy crashed will see it through to completion.

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 10:33:31 AM
We should rename the BOA Building the "Burj BOA." If I'm not mistaken, the word "Burj" means tower.

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: reednavy on January 04, 2010, 10:47:53 AM
Burj does mean tower in Arabic. Today should be interesting as they will announce the official height of this damn thing.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Overstreet on January 04, 2010, 11:55:56 AM
What is the occupancy rate for the tower?

What is the sway is at the top when the wind is blowing?

They have nice weather there. No hurricanes. Of course this is Dubai, city of excesses. They have among other things an indoor snow ski hill.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: finehoe on January 04, 2010, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: Overstreet on January 04, 2010, 11:55:56 AM
What is the occupancy rate for the tower?

The Washington Post reports:  "About 90 percent of units have been sold in Burj Dubai, which will welcome the first occupants of the Giorgio Armani residences in February and will open the world's first Armani Hotel in March.

Prices in the skyscraper -- which formed the apex of the Dubai property market when the one-to-three-bedroom residences were launched in 2007 -- have held up amid the 50 percent crash across the rest of the city, including the surrounding developments of Downtown Burj Dubai."

This just in:  Dubai has renamed its new skyscraper, the tallest in the world, the Burj Khalifa, state news agency WAM reported, in a surprise move apparently intended to honor the United Arab Emirates' president.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: reednavy on January 04, 2010, 01:11:27 PM
Great, as if enough people had problems saying Dubai.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 04, 2010, 01:27:01 PM
Rich people truly don't have a taste.
Inside Armani hotel in Burj Dubai.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/348oas3.jpg)
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: tufsu1 on January 04, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
maybe folks should read the biblical Tower of Babel story again!
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: KenFSU on January 04, 2010, 02:26:48 PM
Hard to be too excited when you consider the horrible human rights violations that came along with developing Dubai at such a rapid pace in the last decade or so.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Jason on January 04, 2010, 02:42:16 PM
QuoteAn amazing building, costing $1.5 billion, opening today.  Imagine what this could do for a downtown reviatalization  :

That thing would consume downtown Jax!  It would likely increase the office and residential occupancy rate 10 fold!  :)


Still, an amazing building that is only one piece of a gargantuan development in the midst of a long list of gartuan developments in Dubai.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 04, 2010, 02:45:58 PM
If you like unbelievable fireworks, go to this link to see a truly one-of-a-kind fireworks display from top to bottom off this tower:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8439618.stm

QuoteThe world's tallest building has been opened with a dramatic fireworks ceremony in the Gulf emirate of Dubai.

The Burj Khalifa was revealed to be 828m (2,716ft) high, far taller than the previous record holder, Taipei 101.

Known as the Burj Dubai during construction, the tower has been renamed after the leader of Dubai's oil-rich neighbour, Abu Dhabi.

Last month, Abu Dhabi gave Dubai a handout of $10bn (£6.13bn) to help it pay off its debts.

Construction of the Burj Dubai began in 2004, at the height of an economic boom.

Clad in 28,000 glass panels, the tower has 160 floors and more than 500,000 sq m of space for offices and flats.

The tower also lays claim to the highest occupied floor, the tallest service lift, and the world's highest observation deck - on the 124th floor.

The world's highest mosque and swimming pool will meanwhile be located on the 158th and 76th floors.

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47024000/jpg/_47024979_dubai.jpg)

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47033000/gif/_47033366_burj_dubai_comp_466.gif)
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: BridgeTroll on January 04, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
View from the top... :o

http://www.youtube.com/v/oWVLzVhnYE0


Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 04, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
maybe folks should read the biblical Tower of Babel story again!

Let's not get into religion; you know what happens in this forum when we do!  (LOL)

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 03:08:25 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on January 04, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
View from the top... :o

http://www.youtube.com/v/oWVLzVhnYE0




I would not want to be at the top of that "THING" looking down; makes me dizzy looking at it through the "YOUTUBE" video.  All I can say is......."MY GOD."

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 04, 2010, 03:10:55 PM
See sunsets twice and enjoy an 8 degree temperature spread.  Also, a review of the design by one critic:

QuoteThe facts and figures about the tower are equally surreal â€" like the one about how it could be eight degrees cooler at the top than at the bottom, or the one about how you could watch the sunset at the bottom, then take a lift up to the top and watch it all over again...

But, beyond height, is there anything to celebrate here? From our current perspective, the Burj Dubai symbolises catastrophic excess â€" of money, confidence, ambition, energy consumption. And the fact that it will most likely stand empty for years to come has been noted with great satisfaction here in the west. But isn't this how we've responded to every tall structure of note, from Babel onwards? And even its many critics have to admit the tower is a rather stunning piece of architecture. Chiefly designed by Adrian Smith, formerly of skyscraper specialists SOM, and engineer Bill Baker, it is beautifully sleek and elegant, rising in a graceful series of silver tubes of different heights. It looks less like a single tower than a cluster of towers, an organic formation rather than a self-consciously iconic object. This is surely the best-looking tall building since New York's Chrysler and the Empire State in the 1930s.

In environmental terms, the Burj Dubai is way too tall to justify itself, but there is at least some structural efficiency to the form. Its Y-shaped plan â€" three wings extending from a central core, like the roots of a tree â€" "confuses the wind", in the architects' words, while the core stops the wings from twisting (which would give top-floor occupants nausea). For super-tall buildings â€" and surely there will be more, one day â€" this "buttressed core" design is likely to become the prevailing form.

More worrying than the tower itself, however, is what's around it. In 1956, Frank Lloyd Wright unveiled a scheme for an elegantly preposterous mile-high skyscraper for Chicago, safe in the knowledge that he'd never have to figure out how to build it. It was undoubtedly an influence on the Burj Dubai. It even had a similar triangular structure. But Wright's intentions with his mile-high skyscraper were to create a concentrated human habitat, the better to halt Chicago's unstoppable urban sprawl, and free up ground space for parks, nature and leisure.

The Burj Dubai, by contrast, has become the tentpole for several more acres of anonymous, soulless, energy-hungry cityscape. You can apparently see for 60 miles from the top, but when you look down, the immediate landscape is the same schematic real-estate tat you see everywhere else in Dubai: vast shopping malls, bland office towers, sprawling residential developments semi-themed to resemble "traditional" Arabian villages, outsized ornamental fountains. The Burj Dubai might be a triumph vertically, but what about the horizontal?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2010/jan/04/burj-dubai-height-architecture

Here is a photo still of the look down from 124 floors:
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2010/1/4/1262623569368/The-landscape-around-the--001.jpg)
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: reednavy on January 04, 2010, 03:40:51 PM
Here is the long video of the fireworks display.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxxv6AZ_xg
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 04, 2010, 05:48:24 PM
The tubular sections, pointed spire, and Fantasia-style fireworks remind me of a combination of the Emerald City in Oz and Disney World's Cinderella's Castle.  It's amazing how similar the exterior building surfaces are to the Emerald City conceived so many decades ago.  Once again, fiction becoming reality.  Eerie.

(http://www.norcalblogs.com/sustainable/Emerald_City_3.jpg)

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47024000/jpg/_47024979_dubai.jpg)

(http://www.trustygetto.com/uploaded_images/cinderella_castle-763938.jpg)
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
This Building truly reaches "HEIGHTS UNKNOWN."

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: I-10east on January 04, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
Well said Stjr. The first thing that I thought was that BD looked like the merry old land of Oz. That small pic of BD in the center looks so impressive.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 04, 2010, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on January 04, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on January 04, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
maybe folks should read the biblical Tower of Babel story again!

Let's not get into religion; you know what happens in this forum when we do!  (LOL)

"HU"

Muslim money+christian knowledge+budhist workers+jewish media= Burj Dubai
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: reednavy on January 04, 2010, 08:04:59 PM
Burj what?
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: copperfiend on January 05, 2010, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on January 04, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
I wanna live in Dubai...where everyone makes 6 figures >_<

give me 3 years there and I will come back and never have to work again.

Everyone? I assume you aren't factoring in the migrant workers and sex slaves?
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: braeburn on January 05, 2010, 02:19:26 AM
Two words: Debtors' Prison
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: thekillingwax on January 05, 2010, 02:47:12 AM
Quote from: copperfiend on January 05, 2010, 12:12:44 AM
Everyone? I assume you aren't factoring in the migrant workers and sex slaves?

Exactly. Besides that, UAE is going bust. The coolest thing about this place is how it'll look as the entire city rots and crumbles around it. It's one mighty impressive nail that seals their guilded coffin.

Here's a good article about Dubai: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html

One of my co-workers worked in Saudi Arabia for a while and her cousin went to work in Dubai. She said SA wasn't the most fun place on earth but said that the employer in Dubai took her cousin's paperwork and threatened to strand her on the streets if she didn't extend her contract for another 6 months at 1/4 the original pay rate. It's similar to what the detail in the story, you have to pay a huge fee to come and work in "paradise"- easy work, easy hours, easy money. Fortunately, my co-worker had enough cash saved to pay off her cousin's ransom and she was able to return home.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 05, 2010, 03:47:11 AM
Well its gonna end up looking like Detroit. :-)

Labor exploitation is happening EVERYWHERE.
Even here in US you have such cases,in Europe most common place that happens is Italy but you can see that almost any country.
That is daily life in Africa and parts of Asia.
That is how lot of rich people turn rich in first place...cheat,lie and exploit weak ones.

That is why rich Americans,British,Arabs and rest all hang out together.
Religion and cultural differences doesn't bother them at all when it comes to money.
Most people will forget about that in 6 months and nothing will ever change.

Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Reaper man on January 06, 2010, 02:19:56 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on January 04, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
View from the top... :o
JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP!  JUMP! ;P
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 06, 2010, 03:27:54 AM
Looks like a Christmas tree and Star Trek.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/dzb41h.jpg)


(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hn75ti.jpg)
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: AaroniusLives on January 06, 2010, 10:33:51 AM
QuoteThat thing would consume downtown Jax!  It would likely increase the office and residential occupancy rate 10 fold!

That thing would end downtown Jacksonville. It would certainly suck even more life off the streets while creating more vacant buildings. Height doesn't not mean, nor guarantee, density.

It really is an amazing tower, however. In a small, densely populated metropolitan area, it would make tons of sense. Or you could build ten of them and scrape away everything else to nature in a sub-urban mess.

Regarding the slave/indentured servant labor in Dubai...that's entirely true. It certainly puts into perspective what we are celebrating when we extol Dubai.

Still, one can't help but notice a little bit of sour grapes, eh? As the Daily Show noted last night, this tower began construction in 2004, and we're still looking at a gaping hole in the ground in NYC. Or, to paraphrase John Stewart, remember when we used to build things? Sure, it takes longer without slaves (just ask the South, not so much gone with the wind as blown to less free societies.) But the United States used to be about creation and invention. Perhaps seeing this tower will remind us of that, shame us, and get us on track.

Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Captain Zissou on January 06, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
I wonder if this is the base jumping Holy Grail....

I doubt any building will surpass this in height for decades to come, based solely on the impracticality of the height of this building.  I can see Tokyo, Hong Kong, or Singapore build a taller building in maybe 2050, but not before.  

I agree with Aaronius that it is a shame we haven't rebuilt anything on the WTC site.  The age of the skyscraper has somewhat died off in the US, and most certainly in Jax.  We need to work on building great, smart, efficient, dense, livable cities before we worry about supertalls.  
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: reednavy on January 06, 2010, 11:49:01 AM
Singapore can't build any taller than the 3 that are already at the maximum allowed, which is 919ft. It is for airspace height restrictions with the airport.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Jason on January 06, 2010, 12:55:42 PM
Freedom Tower (or whatever its called now) is well under construction and is rising rapidly above NYC streets.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=123628&page=353


Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 06, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Cool! I think they'd all make great BRT stations...

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Captain Zissou on January 06, 2010, 01:12:06 PM
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/thumbnailfull/changing-nyc-commercial-construction-labor-ground-zero-wtc-tower-1-1-wtc-attacks-redevelopment-2009-9-6-15-10-30.jpg)

Older photo.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 06, 2010, 01:18:15 PM
It (Freedom Tower) will be tall but will nothave anything on BURJ KHALIFA in Dubai.

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 06, 2010, 01:54:04 PM
Exactly Aaron,tall building don't create vibrant downtowns.
Average american city has tall towers,looks great from distance but once you get into downtown,its empty and no life.
Average european city doesn't even know how to spell tower,looks like a mess from distance but once you enter downtown,its full of life.
You need cities with smaller,preferable 4-8 stories buildings that makes city alive.

Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 06, 2010, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Jason on January 06, 2010, 12:55:42 PM
Freedom Tower (or whatever its called now) is well under construction and is rising rapidly above NYC streets.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=123628&page=353




I personally think they should have named Freedom tower to Yipikaye Mother%@#@ tower.

:-)


Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 06, 2010, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: AaroniusLives on January 06, 2010, 10:33:51 AM
Or, to paraphrase John Stewart, remember when we used to build things? Sure, it takes longer without slaves (just ask the South, not so much gone with the wind as blown to less free societies.) But the United States used to be about creation and invention. Perhaps seeing this tower will remind us of that, shame us, and get us on track.

FYI, the designers/architects for this building are Americans at the firm of Skidmore Owings & Merrill in Chicago:


QuoteThe opening of the world's tallest building in Dubai could enhance Chicago's architectural reputation.

The building opened with a literal bang from some dazzling fireworks. Noted architect Adrian Smith says the Burj Khalifa is the culmination of his career to date.

Smith was the lead designer and a design partner with Skidmore, Owings & Merrill before he started his own firm.

SMITH: As a model for how to do a successful super-tall building, this will become the model for future super-tall buildings for 10 to 20 years to come.

Smith says super-tall buildings are expensive, so they're rarely built. But each one increases the field's understanding of forces like wind.

He says the building adds to the legacy of Chicago architecture. Smith says it's important to export local knowledge and talent to compete globally.

http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=39152
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: stjr on January 06, 2010, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on January 06, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
I doubt any building will surpass this in height for decades to come, based solely on the impracticality of the height of this building.  

Don't count on it.  Here are some buildings either under construction or on the drawing boards awaiting the right market and financing (the current tower, Burj Dubai, is represented at second from left for comparison):

(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/308268/big.jpg)

Ironically, the one amongst these that would go still taller is planned (but on hold for now) for Dubai also:
(http://i1.makcdn.com/Business2009/Media/308232/big.jpg)

From "Gallery:Future Mega-Towers" at: http://business.maktoob.com/20090000414410/Burj_cost_1_5_bln_to_build_already_in_black/Article.htm
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Captain Zissou on January 06, 2010, 04:17:50 PM
That Makkah Hotel monstrosity looks awful.  Despite your list, I just don't see something passing it for some time.  The Nakheel tower looks improbably, and the Shanghai tower is still 200 meters shy of Burj Khalifah.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: finehoe on January 06, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
I agree that it will probably hold the title of "World's Tallest" for a while.  Remember that the Empire State Building stood as the world's tallest building for more than forty years, and it too, opened in the midst of a great economic downturn (1931).
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 06, 2010, 05:41:53 PM
Empire State Building opened in the midst of a world economic disaster and catastrophy, ours is a severe downturn.

That monstrosity Naheel whatever, looks like a rocket ship.  I like the design of the Burj Khalifa; I don't believe that Burj Khalifa will be surpassed anytime soon; our world economy will take some time to bounce back to pre-2008 levels, and, whose to say it will ever bounce back.

Don't like that 1000 meter tower at all.

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Lunican on January 10, 2010, 04:31:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/TGD7xX960PQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: heights unknown on January 10, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: Bostech on January 06, 2010, 03:27:54 AM
Looks like a Christmas tree and Star Trek.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/dzb41h.jpg)


(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hn75ti.jpg)

I wonder how much all that cost?  I thought the area was in financial despair?  Fooled me.

"HU"
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: civil42806 on January 13, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on January 10, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: Bostech on January 06, 2010, 03:27:54 AM
Looks like a Christmas tree and Star Trek.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/dzb41h.jpg)



(http://i45.tinypic.com/2hn75ti.jpg)

I wonder how much all that cost?  I thought the area was in financial despair?  Fooled me.

"HU"

Dubais broke, Abu Dhabi provided the loans to finalize it,  plus the buildings not really finished, lot of unfinished floors.  When the Bribe, ooops excuse me, oil money runs out, the betting will be on how many floors the sand will reach.
Title: Re: World's Tallest Structure Opening: 160+ Story Burj Dubai
Post by: Bostech on January 13, 2010, 11:55:11 PM
Don't worry,when oil runs out they will start taping of arab version of Sopranos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glKOe5qNaCc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glKOe5qNaCc)