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Title: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on November 04, 2009, 06:13:32 AM
Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage

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The City of Los Angeles shows Jacksonville examples of how to incorporate landscaping and signage into an urban pedestrian scale setting.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-nov-urban-design-101-landscaping-signage
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: jeh1980 on November 04, 2009, 11:07:21 AM
Not a bad illustration. I'm sure that Jacksonville already got the message!
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JeffreyS on November 04, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
Dark Sky compliant what is the purpose of that?
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JaxNative68 on November 04, 2009, 01:37:21 PM
to see the stars man . . . to see the stars
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JeffreyS on November 04, 2009, 01:42:25 PM
Yes that's cool but I do like when a Downtown seems bright as you are coming in.
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JaxNative68 on November 04, 2009, 01:54:05 PM
then you like bad environment.  seems to go against your logo.
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JeffreyS on November 04, 2009, 02:00:40 PM
I am not coming out against The "Dark Sky" but sometimes bright lights are fun. If I were a DT resident I would want to see the stars. In some cities they shine the lights up on the buildings and it feels more vibrant. Granted those down towns may have just been more vibrant is why I felt that way.

When you say bad environment do you mean ascetically of some other negative effect?
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: Captain Zissou on November 04, 2009, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on November 04, 2009, 02:00:40 PM
I am not coming out against The "Dark Sky" but sometimes bright lights are fun. If I were a DT resident I would want to see the stars. In some cities they shine the lights up on the buildings and it feels more vibrant. Granted those down towns may have just been more vibrant is why I felt that way.

I think you can have both.  Decorative lighting (Fidelity) and accent lighting don't have to cause light pollution.  This study looked like it was mainly addressing street lighting, which should Light the Street.  The article was arguing against light pointed up at the sky, which serves no purpose. 
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: JaxNative68 on November 04, 2009, 02:10:52 PM
all of the above
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: Fallen Buckeye on November 04, 2009, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on November 04, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
Dark Sky compliant what is the purpose of that?

If you lived a loft or something above the street level would you want a bright light shining into the window of your home at all hours of the night? Plus having the covers on these lights focuses that light on the sidewalk instead of up making the street level brighter than if you had a light shined in all directions.
Title: Re: Urban Design 101: Landscaping & Signage
Post by: sheclown on November 07, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
Bright lights (for no purpose) are bad, indeed.  Mood lighting on bridges is very elegant and always makes me smile.

Now, taped loud music coming from the landing is pollution.