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Community => Parks, Recreation, and the Environment => Topic started by: fsu813 on September 28, 2009, 12:34:46 PM

Title: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: fsu813 on September 28, 2009, 12:34:46 PM
Signs of jumbled hormones that trouble creatures from turtles to alligators have now turned up in a superstar of sportfishing - the largemouth bass.

Almost one in five male largemouths from rivers around the country had microscopic egg cells inside their testes, said Jo Ellen Hinck, a biologist at the U.S. Geological Survey who worked on a nine-year project to test fish from more than 100 locations.

Bass were among just a few kinds of fish where the study found those characteristics, which researchers labeled as intersex features.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-09-28/story/study_bass_in_the_southeast_us_showing_hormone_issue
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: FayeforCure on September 28, 2009, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: fsu813 on September 28, 2009, 12:34:46 PM
Signs of jumbled hormones that trouble creatures from turtles to alligators have now turned up in a superstar of sportfishing - the largemouth bass.

Almost one in five male largemouths from rivers around the country had microscopic egg cells inside their testes, said Jo Ellen Hinck, a biologist at the U.S. Geological Survey who worked on a nine-year project to test fish from more than 100 locations.

Bass were among just a few kinds of fish where the study found those characteristics, which researchers labeled as intersex features.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-09-28/story/study_bass_in_the_southeast_us_showing_hormone_issue


"But,.......but,......you can't believe those scientists" says John Mica. "Have any of the fishermen confirmed this, through anecdotal stories?" he continues.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=5593.15
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: buckethead on September 28, 2009, 06:17:47 PM
Damn that Mica!
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Dog Walker on September 29, 2009, 09:47:53 AM
Mr. Mica, I don't think that local fishermen are going to examining the gonads of the bass that they catch and the hormonal changes don't involve the fish growing little titties.  Put a sign on your desk that says, "Engage brain before opening mouth."
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: buckethead on September 29, 2009, 04:43:58 PM
I think the hairpiece is causing some overheating.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Overstreet on October 19, 2009, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: fsu813 on September 28, 2009, 12:34:46 PM...........Almost one in five male largemouths from rivers around the country had microscopic egg cells inside their testes............

You know that all the fish I ever caught I never saw anything that I could identify as testes. I figured the fish needed to know that more than me anyway.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on October 19, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
The title is an obvious truth. Now what are you going to do about it?
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Sportmotor on October 19, 2009, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: kellypope on October 19, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
The title is an obvious truth. Now what are you going to do about it?

I dunno about the rest of you but I feel like cooking some fish over a coal BBQ.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: FayeforCure on October 20, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: kellypope on October 19, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
The title is an obvious truth. Now what are you going to do about it?

Clearly hard-core Republicans just joke about it.

Funny thing is that besides healthcare, concern for our environment is a truly bi-partisan issue that requires shared sacrifices.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: buckethead on October 21, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
Commence the sacrifices!
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Overstreet on November 04, 2009, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: FayeforCure on October 20, 2009, 12:51:51 PM............Funny thing is that besides healthcare, concern for our environment is a truly bi-partisan issue that requires shared sacrifices.............

Shared sacrifices?  ..... The article did hint that they didn’t know if egg cells had been in the bass testies before now or not.
..........They were quoting the possible cause is from estrogen used in birth control medications. Let's not forget that estrogen is administered to treat menopause and other female reproductive conditions. It is also prescribed for some rare blood diseases in both male and female. The problem would be that unused estrogen is not removed by the sewage treatment system.  Then there are the plant estrogens present in things like soy products.

Should we ban estrogen?  Does it really matter if largemouth bass have egg cells in their testis? 

However, I can attest to the fact that if we ban hormone replacement therapy to menopausal women we all suffer.   Some will suffer more than others.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: gmpalmer on November 04, 2009, 10:07:27 AM
Ah the unforeseen consequences of chemical birth control. . .
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on November 04, 2009, 01:55:16 PM
Hey, y'all. Jacksonville is the 8th most toxic city in the US. Awesome!

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/02/toxic-cities-pollution-lifestyle-real-estate-toxic-cities_chart.html?partner=contextstory
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Captain Zissou on November 04, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
^^ I just read today that we were 11th or 13th for highest unemployment in another survey!! We're on a roll.

Maybe the bass were just getting in touch with their feminine side....?
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on November 04, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
We're still number one in the Least Walkable Cities list, according to HuffPost. Sure could use some better transit options...
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: fsu813 on November 04, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
most toxic city?

this is the criteria:

"Poor air quality, lack of clean water and a high rate of superfund sites make these metros most contaminated."

but Jax just made the list of Best Air Quality:

http://smartercities.nrdc.org/cities/jacksonville-fl

#10 - Jacksonville, FL

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Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on November 04, 2009, 05:15:43 PM
Perhaps this study focused on soil and water toxicity?
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: north miami on November 21, 2009, 11:48:25 AM


Bumper sticker:  Florida's First Coast-where Miami begins!!


Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on November 21, 2009, 04:57:17 PM
No, it's where Georgia ends.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Dog Walker on November 22, 2009, 11:03:39 AM
Sorry Kelly, Georgia ends at about Daytona/Orlando line. 
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Ocklawaha on November 22, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: FayeforCure on October 20, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: kellypope on October 19, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
The title is an obvious truth. Now what are you going to do about it?

Clearly hard-core Republicans just joke about it.

Funny thing is that besides healthcare, concern for our environment is a truly bi-partisan issue that requires shared sacrifices.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/joserouse/Wahines/Fishing%20Babes/bikini-fish.jpg)
Latina demonstrating the proper way to sex a fish.

Well, well, I'm sure as hell not a Republican and haven't been to a Republican love fest since I went with Faye's Nemesis back when we elected Clinton. I completely disagree on what's coming next, some wacko from the left side of the party's telling me if I can be safe with a fish. "Safe Fish," just doesn't sound palatable. If we flush a few billion dollars after this I'm sure we can fix it. From here on out any man caught with a fishy scent will be subject to a full body search. If you want Safe Fish, you may only get your weekly 3 oz from a certified, United States Fish Commission, Safe Fish, direct distributor. All fish will be checked for sex before sale, male fish will only be sold to men and  female fish only to women, there will be NO GAY FISH allowed. However if you already own a fish, and you suspect it of being Gay, the new law makes provision for a certified Safe Fish sex change surgery. Apply under the new government medical insurance policy on the form KCUSSRETAHACIM in triplicate...Be sure to wear your seat belt suckers, Gay Fish today, and their coming for you tomorrow
.

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Ocklawaha on November 23, 2009, 12:50:35 PM
(http://www.rubycarmen.com/static/large/174handcuff-bracelet.jpg)

Oh what an illustration a dual sexed fish will provide, when a Fish and Game officer takes my bucket of fresh tasty snapper and I tell him, "Go screw yourself..."

OCKLAWAHA
click!
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: north miami on November 23, 2009, 12:57:34 PM

The outdoor publications depict endless photos with ever so lovely looking ladies profiling 'their' catch..............yet when I am out and about out there mostly what is seen are those that dine on a coke and FunYums for breakfast...........
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: buckethead on November 23, 2009, 01:58:14 PM
You're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: JaxNative68 on November 23, 2009, 05:48:32 PM
a fish walked into a bar, testes under one gill and ovaries under the other gill, the bartender looked at the fish and said . . .
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: kellypope on November 24, 2009, 10:06:03 AM
Glad we're all serious about this.
Title: Re: Our environment is going to Hell
Post by: Sportmotor on November 24, 2009, 10:25:58 AM
Why is fishing better then sex?
Fish are real happy when you pick up your gear and go home.