Metro Jacksonville

try and pick one!

I have no clue who they are, so I just shot at the barrel.

Jim Bailey--don't know him
Dan Davis--current council member, Dist 12
Tommy Hazouri--former mayor of Jax, current school board member
Jerry Holland--former council man
Audrey Moran--current President of The Sulzbacher Center, shelter for homeless

Or someone not named...I would have to go with someone not named at this point.

Are Glorious Johnson or Bill Bishop expected to run?

I do not want a mayor named Glorious Johnson, nuf said. It's bad enough we already have a place called Oral Explosion. I can hear it now, I just saw Glorious Johnson at Oral Explosion! Let the phallic jokes being after that.

Too bad we can't get Delaney back in the driver's seat.

My pick fo the above would be Audrey Moran, but I CERTAINLY could be swayed in the next two years.

Even though I chose Tommy Hazouri, it's only because I know him and am familiar with his policies, however, if an unknown or dark horse came on the ticket that really outlined and addressed the focus, vision, objectives, and goals for Jacksonville's future in a clear and concise way, where everyone understood what he or she really wanted for Jacksonville, I would seriously consider voting for them.

Heights Unknown

Stephen, How do we go back and vote now that you have added a couple of people?

Add my vote to the Glorious Johnson column!

I live in Virginia, effectively mooting my vote, but from what I have read of both Bishop and Johnson they both seem to have a good understanding of the issues that are frequently discussed at this site.  E.g., Johnson impressed me with her understanding of commuter rail's value, Bishop with his understanding of why the courthouse design is not ideal for an urban environment.

Am I correct in remembering that Bishop is a Republican and Johnson a recent convert to the Democratic Party?  Maybe they will each win their primaries for the ultimate win-win general election.

Would Matt Carlucci ever run again?  I assume Nat Glover would not given his post at UNF.

Uugggh!  I don't really like any of these choices or those of others that have been suggested frequently on MJ threads.  Most of these people are stale having been a part of the festering backward thinking or poor visioning and decision making that got us to where we are (or, are NOT!) today.

It would be great if a fresh, visionary, imaginative, un-bought and sold, experienced and clear headed manager-thinker would ride up on a white horse and whisk the electorate away!  Someone who can build a populist campaign and get elected without depending on support of the fire and police, NAACP, Jaguars, builders and real estate developers, city contractors, high rollers, religious groups, fellow politicos, etc. that constitute those special interests webs that tend to pull back those we elect from the precipice of doing what is best for ALL the community, not just part of it.

The only person listed I would even remotely support here is Matt Carlucci.  He really knows Jax and would think outside the box while watching out for the taxpayers. 

How about another college president?  Steve Wallace at, now, Florida State College.  Well connected to all parts of the community, bright, a great manager, good people skills, and a visionary thinker!

I've heard the name "Fant" from the local Guaranty Bank tossed around.  Anybody know anything about his interest?

I assume you are talking about the son.  Haven't seen his name bandied about in my circles, but I have read and heard his bank, like some other local community banks, is not exactly a "rock of Gibraltar" at the moment.  His management of it could get some undesirable scrutiny from an opponent if he ran.  As an aside, I think most bankers are too genial to survive the mud thrown in politics.

NOT Audrey Moran

I will not vote at this time.  I do not know enough about any of them.  I do not know their platforms or even party affiliations.  Glorious Johnson just switched from Dem to rep recently.  I cannot endorse anyone until I know more.

Audrey Moran would be a killing Mayor for Downtown and surrounding neighborhoods -- areas that should be economic development assets for Jax as they are for every other major metro.

With the former Exec Dir of the Sulzbacher Center as Mayor, Jacksonville will be able to officially claim its title as Social Service Capital of the Southeast, even more handout seekers will travel here to take advantage of expanding services, and the taxpayers can expect future additional millage increases to maintain and grow budgeted PSG's to support the influx of needy.

The first candidate that plans to support existing ordinances (like Sulzbacher Center as a TEMPORARY homeless shelter) gets my vote. I'd move to an igloo in northern Greenland before voting for any supporter of increasing social services in a Jacksonville election. The City just can't support its unsustainable social welfare model anymore.

Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 14, 2009, 06:57:39 AM
I will not vote at this time.  I do not know enough about any of them.  I do not know their platforms or even party affiliations.  Glorious Johnson just switched from Dem to rep recently.  I cannot endorse anyone until I know more.

Other way around, C/w Johnson changed from R to D recently.
I agree, lots of research is needed to sort through this lot, and any others that may pop up between now and Spring 2011.

Thanks Charles... dylexic must be I... :D

If Allegretti won't run, nominate him, if elected, prop him up and make him serve. We need people with character and who have vision to run the city. All of the candidates listed, while nice people, have no real vision to me. Hazouri just voted to raise our taxes, you think I want him again? Fuhget it!

I don't really know enough about any of these people to select one. Who are the viable contenders for the democratic ticket?

I am as excited by the list of candidates as I was when I did the dishes at my house last night. Might as well just engrave Dan Davis on the mayoral nameplate.

Which Party is Carlucci with now? Do we expect that party affiliation to stay the same for the next two years?  Disclaimer I have a personal problem with Carlucci.

No, although I thought he was wrong about that one.  Mine is more personal early in his political career he said something to a reporter that hurt my family.  It was a set up question from Winston Dean who was trying to angle a story about my Father. Matt did not know what he was talking about but commented anyway.  Long story short Carlucci, Winston Dean and the T.U. who all where there when they thought the story was one thing disappeared when the State ethics board confirmed nothing inappropriate had happened. (the T.U. did print about one sentence in the back of the paper) So what he did is not the worst thing in the world but I haven't fully let it go. My jab was just about some switching back and forth of affiliations which he has done.

We should start a new write in vote:

"THE METRO JACKSONVILLE 5!"

We'll all share the seat... Platform of VISION, VISION and some more VISION!

OCKLAWAHA

^ Brilliant of course.  Let's can the city council while we are at it! 

Vote the Metro 5 for mayor! 

Quote from: stephendare on January 15, 2010, 11:50:13 PM

Quote from: zoo on July 14, 2009, 07:05:23 AM
Audrey Moran would be a killing Mayor for Downtown and surrounding neighborhoods -- areas that should be economic development assets for Jax as they are for every other major metro.

With the former Exec Dir of the Sulzbacher Center as Mayor, Jacksonville will be able to officially claim its title as Social Service Capital of the Southeast, even more handout seekers will travel here to take advantage of expanding services, and the taxpayers can expect future additional millage increases to maintain and grow budgeted PSG's to support the influx of needy.

The first candidate that plans to support existing ordinances (like Sulzbacher Center as a TEMPORARY homeless shelter) gets my vote. I'd move to an igloo in northern Greenland before voting for any supporter of increasing social services in a Jacksonville election. The City just can't support its unsustainable social welfare model anymore.

I assume by the fact you have quoted zoos opinion from 6 months ago, that you are taking exception to their sentiment. Can you elaborate as to where you believe they are wrong? Simply reposting it doest explain your point.

Not knowing anything about Moran, it seems like a legit fear.

Well, we now know how you feel about Zoo and SPAR. As I also know Zoo I dont really need that, or the further SPAR assessments. What you have not really explained where she is wrong about Moran.

I really don't have an opinion about her, or her candidacy for mayor, so I am asking for the sake of trying to understand how she will be good for the urban core communities.

Quote from: stephendare on January 16, 2010, 09:33:23 AM
Not knowing anything about someone isn't a legitimate basis to fear that they would do anything in particular is it?

I don't really know anything about David Axelrod for instance, but it would be insane for me to fear he was going to poison the water supply of downtown Boise on the basis that I don't know that he won't.

Go into the garage, pull out the old vinyl album, plop it on the record player, and commence listening to "The Pool Table" sequence from the musical, "The Music Man..."

REPEAT ad infinitum...

JACKSONVILLE!

God, can you imagine being the ONE CITY in the whole world known for it's benevolence toward our brothers and sisters? The horror! The Fear! The Humanity! Apocalyptic!

This modern view of cleaning up the city has gotten so bad that in Orlando, it is now illegal for a family of 10 to celebrate little Johnny's birthday in the park without a permit. Why? Because a local charity was doing a free lunch in the park event and someone thought it would hurt the resident rodents reputation.  The police busted raided the criminal site dumping the food and even smashing some of the equipment. The group vowed to return as long as hungry people lived in Central Florida, they hit the streets the following day, and got a repeat performance from the City, as well as being immediately arrested!

Moral of the story?  Make children's movies about being kind, loving and forgiving, heal the sick, feed the poor, speak out against police "brutality", support gun control and liberal causes, then crack the head of the first persons to put it into practice. 

By the way, it was Abbie Hoffman that once joked about putting LSD in the Chicago Water Supply... The result included mobilizing the 101St Airborne Division of the US Army, and storming the city to "Sweep up the Trash."

OCKLAWAHA
"TRASH CENTRAL"

If you judge someone by the company they keep, Audrey Moran doesn't come off looking so good.

Michael Muntz, Herb Peyton, Preston Haskell.

She may be a nice lady, a good mother and someone who has run a program to help people, but those are some dark forces behind her who are not noted for letting their creatures have much independence from their agenda.

Quote from: Dog Walker on January 16, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
If you judge someone by the company they keep, Audrey Moran doesn't come off looking so good.

Michael Muntz, Herb Peyton, Preston Haskell.

She may be a nice lady, a good mother and someone who has run a program to help people, but those are some dark forces behind her who are not noted for letting their creatures have much independence from their agenda.

Unfortunately, I think we are going to find all the "viable" candidates will have such play makers in their campaigns.  With the need to raise significant money, they can't afford not to.  It is what's wrong with politics.  As usual, one's choice will be more likely predicated on the lesser of evils than the greater of the positives.

Just my point, Stephen.  Can't we get someone who is less embedded in the power elite and has a different agenda from them?  Knowing the power brokers is not the same as being supported and run by them.

Mr. Preston and Mr. Haskell are fine businessmen and philanthropists, but I am not convinced that they are involved in politics out of the goodness of their hearts.

Michael Muntz is an orc.

Quote from: stephendare on January 16, 2010, 11:20:19 AM


I don't think you can be an effective mayor of any large city unless you are privy to the machinations of the various powerbases.

stephendare.........therein lies the problem, at what point do you do what is right rather than what one of the various powerbases says is right? It would be nice to have someone outside of the various powerbases to the lead and do what is right! I am not sure, at all, Audrey is the one.............in fact no one who has declared really enthuses me at all! I don't want re-cycling, I want someone who can do the job and thats iffy to this point!

Quote from: Dog Walker on January 16, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
Just my point, Stephen.  Can't we get someone who is less embedded in the power elite and has a different agenda from them?  Knowing the power brokers is not the same as being supported and run by them.

perhaps you should check Ms. Moran's platform before assuming that she is "run by them"

http://imwithaudrey.com/

for example, bullet #2

Looks like Audrey may need to up her bandwidth if she wants people to hang around for her video.  Or, it just me?

I had no problems

I am trying to keep an open mind, even though I feel Audrey is not the one, since she or none of the other declared Mayoral Candidates, have not said much about anything  to anyone. The idea of a panel of candidates fielding questions from the public appeals to me since it is kind of hard to drop in to Political Speak when confronted with black & white questions. There is much that has not been said to this point and much that needs to be known from any candidate regarding their positions on a variety of issues! I am on the lookout for someone who has  plan and a vision and has some idea of how to fund that vision!

^ I just posted something similar on the January Poll thread, Foltz.  I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this way.

brainstormer................I think there is more than just you and me who think that way! Still very early in the process and time will tell!