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Title: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 10:10:25 AM
Today is already the second day that the store is closed. No sign or anything on the door. Customers come, find out it's locked and leave.
Anyone know what is going on ?
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Deuce on June 09, 2009, 11:50:04 AM
Is this place another one of the s-hole convenience stores we have in the neighborhood?
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 12:16:08 PM
It is a convenience store with the usual lottery, beer, cigarettes, etc. The amount of trash around it should now hopefully reduce.

There are several convenience and retail stores owned by the same company in the neighborhood.

071554-0000   DUVAL ATLANTIC PROPERTIES INC   1755   PERRY   ST           Jacksonville   32206
071571-0000   DUVAL ATLANTIC PROPERTIES INC   1701   PEARL   ST           Jacksonville   32206
071609-0000   DUVAL ATLANTIC PROPERTIES INC   1750   LAURA   ST   N       Jacksonville   32206
072274-0000   DUVAL ATLANTIC PROPERTIES INC   334   8TH   ST   E       Jacksonville   32206
072276-0000   DUVAL ATLANTIC PROPERTIES INC   1760   WALNUT   ST           Jacksonville   32206
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 12:27:39 PM
Damn... i hope they aren't closed for good! it's the closest place to me that sells my cigarettes!! oh well... :-\
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: downtownparks on June 09, 2009, 12:59:22 PM
The owner isnt the operator. If the store is closed, I assume he will just lease it out to someone else as soon as he can.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Deuce on June 09, 2009, 01:16:24 PM
Not if it is accidentally swallowed up by a sand worm.

(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/dune-sandworm.jpg)

Which I sincerely hope happens to every one of these s-hole stores.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 01:44:32 PM
Why does everybody hate these stores? i live close to this Speedway and the only people that hang out there are old guys. Kinda quiet...compared to 5-10 years back.

Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 02:08:25 PM
I live even closer to it and the trash blows in my yard. Napkins, empty cups, plastic bottles, plastic bags, black and mild wrappers, candy wrappers, lottery tickets, etc. Not directly a fault of the store as it's the customers throwing the stuff away, but still a side effect of having the store near by.

I know the old people hanging out there. I call them the "social club". They are quit and harmless. None the less, it took quite a few talks to convince them not to leave their liquor bottles behind on the SW corner of 8th and Perry. They bring their own liquor and get the mixers and ice from the store. Occasionally they buy beer there which they consume across the store.

Now why should I like the store ?
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 02:08:25 PM
I live even closer to it and the trash blows in my yard. Napkins, empty cups, plastic bottles, plastic bags, black and mild wrappers, candy wrappers, lottery tickets, etc. Not directly a fault of the store as it's the customers throwing the stuff away, but still a side effect of having the store near by.

I know the old people hanging out there. I call them the "social club". They are quit and harmless. None the less, it took quite a few talks to convince them not to leave their liquor bottles behind on the SW corner of 8th and Perry. They bring their own liquor and get the mixers and ice from the store. Occasionally they buy beer there which they consume across the store.

Now why should I like the store ?

Well just take a match to it...
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Deuce on June 09, 2009, 03:28:40 PM
Sigh. If it was only that easy.  :D

When I suggested this for another location, someone offered to bring the marshmallows.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: Deuce on June 09, 2009, 03:28:40 PM
Sigh. If it was only that easy.  :D

When I suggested this for another location, someone offered to bring the marshmallows.

Honestly I'd rather see that Shell Station gone...the speedway isn't that much of a threat.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
Honestly I'd rather see that Shell Station gone...the speedway isn't that much of a threat.
I'd rather see them both gone. Both are a nuisance.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Springfielder on June 09, 2009, 04:25:47 PM
True that....both could be gone and it would be a major improvement
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: zoo on June 09, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
Maybe all of the stores would be ok for keeping IF:

- those that shop or "hang out" there weren't throwing all of their trash into neighboring lots, or on the ground (so it blows into said lots)
- the proprietors made an effort to keep the store clean inside and out
- the proprietors in no way enabled or endorsed any illegal behavior

But many residents living near these establishments are not optimistic these adaptations have or will come about.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 09, 2009, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: zoo on June 09, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
Maybe all of the stores would be ok for keeping IF:

- those that shop or "hang out" there weren't throwing all of their trash into neighboring lots, or on the ground (so it blows into said lots)
- the proprietors made an effort to keep the store clean inside and out
- the proprietors in no way enabled or endorsed any illegal behavior

But many residents living near these establishments are not optimistic these adaptations have or will come about.
One more:

- the proprietors provide a restroom for their patrons so that after drinking all this beer they don't need to urinate behind the store, next to the dumpster or across the street

But as zoo pointed out, not very optimistic at this point.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: 02roadking on June 09, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Hmmmm, maybe their closing is the reason the (24hr) BP @ Liberty & 8th has seen an uptick in nighttime activity. Very boisterous & loud lately, especially late night, early morning.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 09, 2009, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: 02roadking on June 09, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Hmmmm, maybe their closing is the reason the (24hr) BP @ Liberty & 8th has seen an uptick in nighttime activity. Very boisterous & loud lately, especially late night, early morning.

Yea...that place is crazy. Never really thought of that as Springfield though. Kinda far down 8th.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Springfielder on June 10, 2009, 07:03:18 AM
Kind of far down 8th? I don't know what area you consider to be Springfield, but 8th and Liberty IS in historic springfield. Our boundaries go to Ionia, which is another couple of blocks east.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 10, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
The proprietor closed the store. Not enough business. The store is now for lease or sale.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Karl_Pilkington on June 10, 2009, 02:28:32 PM
guess selling 40's, lottos and smokes ain't all that profitable, too bad he wasn't getting a piece of the action outside the store thats where the real profits were.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: nvrenuf on June 10, 2009, 04:14:54 PM
Quote from: 02roadking on June 09, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Hmmmm, maybe their closing is the reason the (24hr) BP @ Liberty & 8th has seen an uptick in nighttime activity. Very boisterous & loud lately, especially late night, early morning.
Interesting considering that this store usually closed by about 9:30p. The store was fine for the occasional jug of milk but I didn't frequent it much. Along with the harmless social club were quite a few drug dealers and friends that I didn't want to have to go through to use the store.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: 02roadking on June 10, 2009, 05:26:37 PM
Yeah, they started the 24 hr. thing about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I'm going to get with the SHADCO and try to nip it in the bud before it gets to out of hand.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Deuce on June 10, 2009, 05:33:06 PM
Nip that sucker! The only thing someone needs to buy 24 hours are drugs for an illness and maybe toilet paper (if you're out of paper towel).
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: AlexS on June 11, 2009, 12:27:41 PM
Speedway store is now boarded up. Maybe it's closed for a longer time ?
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Omarvelous09 on June 11, 2009, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: Springfielder on June 10, 2009, 07:03:18 AM
Kind of far down 8th? I don't know what area you consider to be Springfield, but 8th and Liberty IS in historic springfield. Our boundaries go to Ionia, which is another couple of blocks east.

I guess youre right.. maybe we should change the boundaries lol.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: Deuce on June 11, 2009, 02:22:07 PM
If the boundaries of the historic district ever do change, they will probably move north to MLK to encompass that area that was originally platted as New Springfield (I hope I got that correct). There are some great historic homes in that area as well.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: sheclown on June 11, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
Once upon a time there was a plan to include that area in the historic district.  Currently, it is an unwanted area....ignored by SPAR Council/ Springfield unless something good happens there and equally unclaimed by Metro North...who I found out at least goes to some of the public meetings about the issues that come up in that area.  Deuce is right, there are a lot of really great houses...many from the teens and twenties...in that area.  A little more like Avondale perhaps in terms of design.

Any store closing today is a sign of the times and it should worry all of us a little. Even if we didn't like the clientele it served
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: samiam on June 11, 2009, 04:51:48 PM
For a business to survive it must change as the demographics of the area changes. A good example of this is the store at 3rd and market. They saw the change and about a year or so ago started stocking a supply of good wines and imported beer.
Title: Re: Speedway Store @ 8th/Perry St
Post by: strider on June 11, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Actually, the demographics haven't changed all that much.  Which is why there are worries on the part of a few about the newest gas/ convience store at Liberty.  It is very good that the stores add items as a smaller somewhat upscale clientel comes in, but it isn't their primary business yet.