Sail Jacksonville 2009 Photos
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Metro Jacksonville photographers share the scenes from Sail Jacksonville 2009 in Downtown Jacksonville.
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Great photos guys!
Was that Captain Jack Sparrow in the early photos!
Nice photos. It's good to see so many people enjoying the riverfront Downtown.
Man, I was hoping to see myself....
Great shots though!
On a side note, the guy with the parrot was a bit strange... :)
This is the HMS Bounty, which just sank in Hurricane Sandy.
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Actually I believe the HMS Bounty is/was actually a reproduction home ported in Tampa. You have to wonder if it will be raised. Even though its is/was a reproduction, its just sad to see any ship sink, this one is especially disturbing to an old salt.
"REPRODUCTION," sets the lost 'Bounty' on a slightly different plane then the USS Constitution, USS Eagle, or Colombia's ARC Gloria. All of which are active 'war ships' and used for cadet training purposes.
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USS CONSTITUTION
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USS EAGLE
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ARC GLORIA
Why was it out there?
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 01, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
The best "route" would have been to stay in port rather than try to skirt a hurricane.
Quote from: cline on November 01, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 01, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
The best "route" would have been to stay in port rather than try to skirt a hurricane.
Staying in port would have been a guarantee of massive damage. It went out as any other large ship would do during a hurricane. Out at sea those violent breakers tend to be more like giant rollers, not to mention the fact that being out allows for plenty of room for maneuvering to catch those waves head on. Something went way wrong in the command and/or steering.
Earliest reports on storm track had Sandy moving farther off shore.
Quote from: Ocklawaha on November 01, 2012, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cline on November 01, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 01, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
The best "route" would have been to stay in port rather than try to skirt a hurricane.
Staying in port would have been a guarantee of massive damage. It went out as any other large ship would do during a hurricane. Out at sea those violent breakers tend to be more like giant rollers, not to mention the fact that being out allows for plenty of room for maneuvering to catch those waves head on. Something went way wrong in the command and/or steering.
Sailing into a hurricane is not a guarantee of massive damage? He would have been better sailing out in a different direction and waiting for it to clear. Not heading towards it. You don't exactly maneuver your way around a storm this large.
What was the boat that was just here last week leading up to FLA/GA?
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Quote from: cline on November 01, 2012, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on November 01, 2012, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cline on November 01, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 01, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
The best "route" would have been to stay in port rather than try to skirt a hurricane.
Staying in port would have been a guarantee of massive damage. It went out as any other large ship would do during a hurricane. Out at sea those violent breakers tend to be more like giant rollers, not to mention the fact that being out allows for plenty of room for maneuvering to catch those waves head on. Something went way wrong in the command and/or steering.
Sailing into a hurricane is not a guarantee of massive damage? He would have been better sailing out in a different direction and waiting for it to clear. Not heading towards it. You don't exactly maneuver your way around a storm this large.
Not what I said, "Staying
in port would have been a guarantee of massive damage." Large ships have a bigger-then-a-billboard flat hull surface, in a hurricane it might as well be a giant sail. Leave that ship or any other next to the dock and IT WILL BE DASHED TO PIECES. Lakelander asked why it was out there and I was responding to his query. I believe the Bounty was heading south and as has been pointed out, it appeared that the storm would pass more easterly. Just saying that the Captain made the right call but misfortune caused the loss of the ship.
Even if they were trying to get around the worst of the storm, they couldn't have been in a worse spot. The Outer Bank's of North Carolina is known to sailors around the world as the "Grave yard of the Atlantic."
http://www.youtube.com/v/UDlc1slA8PA?version=3&hl=en_US
Quote from: Ocklawaha on November 01, 2012, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: cline on November 01, 2012, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 01, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
^ it goes to shows/festivals all over...I believe it was headed from Norfolk to St. Petersburg....
And they did change their route somewhat due to the impending storm...I guess just not enough.
The best "route" would have been to stay in port rather than try to skirt a hurricane.
Staying in port would have been a guarantee of massive damage. It went out as any other large ship would do during a hurricane. Out at sea those violent breakers tend to be more like giant rollers, not to mention the fact that being out allows for plenty of room for maneuvering to catch those waves head on. Something went way wrong in the command and/or steering.
The Bounty isn't/wasn't that big. It rode out a couple of hurricanes at its mooring in Tampa Bay with no damage. They could have put in at Norfolk and been safely tucked away somewhere up the Elizabeth River.
Well, despite all of the theories, in reality it didn't work out.
What a video, Ock!
QuoteJust saying that the Captain made the right call but misfortune caused the loss of the ship.
Actually, he made the wrong call. Just take a look at what other captains are saying about his decision. One person is confirmed dead and unfortunately the Captain probably is as well. Trying to skirt an extremely large hurricane (with an inexperienced crew) is not misfortune- it's a bad miscalculation on the Captain's part. Luckily the CG was able to rescue the rest of the crew.
Sailing a large vessel almost anywhere without an experienced crew? Yeah, that would be a game changer. Better turn the ship into sawdust then place it's crew in coffins. ::)
Quote from: Ocklawaha on November 01, 2012, 07:48:49 PM
Sailing a large vessel almost anywhere without an experienced crew? Yeah, that would be a game changer. Better turn the ship into sawdust then place it's crew in coffins. ::)
Well that's what he did. Guess it was "misfortune".