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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => Riverside/Avondale => Topic started by: grimss on May 21, 2009, 10:24:15 AM

Title: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: grimss on May 21, 2009, 10:24:15 AM
Anyone else notice that the huge road project along the St. Johns S-curve is creating some, umm, unintended consequences?  From what I understand, one of the issues it was meant to address is drainage, but watching the construction, it seemed to me the road was being rerouted to funnel every ounce of water onto the inside of the s-curve and into the yard of the poor dude who lives there. Now that we've had so much rain, it looks like me fears are coming true. It has been impassable for the last two days--the poor guy literally has a "no wake" zone by his front door-and the road was closed this morning for being underwater.  It must be at least a foot deep.

Any of you infrastructure folks know what's going on, and how they can possibly fix this??
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: BridgeTroll on May 21, 2009, 10:53:30 AM
Where or what exactly is the "S curve"?
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: Shwaz on May 21, 2009, 10:54:55 AM
I believe grimms is talking about the stretch of St. Johns Ave. just south of the Avondale strip leading to Herschel.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: BridgeTroll on May 21, 2009, 11:01:43 AM
Ah ok... this storm is a good stress test for hurricane season.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: reednavy on May 21, 2009, 11:03:34 AM
They're currently replacing the water lines after it fractured last year. You could clearly see the water seeping out and flowing while you were driving. At the same time, they're going to improve the storm drains. However, when the St. Johns has risen, as is the case, there is nothing that can be done. Several days of NE to E wind flow, coupled with tremendous amounts of rain from here to that part of the river in Brevard County, this will last for several more days. The river backs up into the drains and the water has nowhere to go but up. This issue isn't just there, but San Marco, Riverside, Mandarin, etc, any part of town close to the river has this happen.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: grimss on May 21, 2009, 11:52:35 AM
I know all about rain water and rising water with nowhere to go--it's got my backyard buried at the moment. But all these factors together have never created this sort of issue before in this particular spot--I've lived around the corner from the s-curve since '95.  I'm no engineer, but it's apparent that whatever they've done has directed runoff to a new place--this guy's yard. When you drive past it, water can be clearly seen flowing down Montgomery to his front door; it's also actually crossing the road right above his house to join the flow coming down St. Johns. It appeared yesterday that they'd put one of those felt rolls on the road about 15 feet up from his house in an attempt to draw the flow into one of the new strorm drains there; without the roll, the water appears to bypass that particular storm drain altogether, which would seem to be a design problem . . .

My question is, since it appears they're almost done (storm basins in, paving done, curbs rebuilt, driveways poured), what's not working?
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: reednavy on May 21, 2009, 01:14:32 PM
Doesn't help it being you posted around high tide either.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: Deuce on May 21, 2009, 02:01:39 PM
Did the guy post critical comments about a church on a blog? :)
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: grimss on May 21, 2009, 02:21:13 PM
Okay, so now the road is passable and the sewer drains seems clear of water, but this guy's still got a lake in his yard.  The workers have put a hydraulic pump in it and are running the hose down the road toward the creek--where one imagines the water was supposed to go in the first place. Is this something he's going to have to do every time we get a big storm?  Don't know the guy, but the situation does seem to suck . . .
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: mtraininjax on May 21, 2009, 10:30:56 PM
You could move.....
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: downtownparks on May 21, 2009, 10:37:58 PM
Mtrain, is your solution to everything, just accept it?
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: Steve on May 21, 2009, 11:34:46 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 21, 2009, 10:30:56 PMYou could move.....

wow, you take life so simply.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: The Compound on May 21, 2009, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 21, 2009, 10:30:56 PM
You could move.....

Yes! Its so easy to sell your property and move these days. Great idea!  Imma leave them a note, they probably havent thought of that.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: ChriswUfGator on May 22, 2009, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: The Compound on May 21, 2009, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 21, 2009, 10:30:56 PM
You could move.....

Yes! Its so easy to sell your property and move these days. Great idea!  Imma leave them a note, they probably havent thought of that.

Hey, now that their house is underwater, you could probably get a good deal on it...hehehehe
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: Captain Zissou on May 22, 2009, 12:51:08 PM
I am staying down in Gainesville this week because my home in Jax is inaccessible. I live on the west bank of the Ortega River. My family has had to stay with friends for the past two nights.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: mtraininjax on May 28, 2009, 11:55:05 PM
Quotewow, you take life so simply.

i'm sorry, just trying to figure out if i should laugh or have sympathy for someone who bought along a dysfunctional traffic pattern.
Title: Re: S-Curve Swimming Pool
Post by: STJohns7981 on June 07, 2009, 11:09:27 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 28, 2009, 11:55:05 PM
Quotewow, you take life so simply.

i'm sorry, just trying to figure out if i should laugh or have sympathy for someone who bought along a dysfunctional traffic pattern.

In all seriousness, the drainage and traffic problems caused by the construction have been going on for what? A year or so? The proposal for the construction was probably originally floated and discussed within the last 3 or 4 years.

So in all likelihood, they probably bought the house and then the City came along later and caused the drainage problem. That's not their fault.