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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on April 15, 2009, 10:02:03 PM

Title: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: thelakelander on April 15, 2009, 10:02:03 PM
The TU confirms what had been mentioned here a few months ago.  Ron Barton has high hopes, but you can stick a fork in this one.

http://www.jacksonville.com/business/2009-04-15/story/brooklyn_redevelopment_on_hold_property_for_sale

QuoteHard times have hit the sweeping urban redevelopment plan for Jacksonville’s historic Brooklyn area that was to include a $250 million complex of 800 apartments, a hotel and 50,000 square feet of retail space on 12.5 acres that had once been at the heart of an 1800s-era Jacksonville suburb. The developer of Brooklyn Park has put three-fourths of the project’s land up for sale.

QuoteBut, Barton said, there isn’t all bad news to be had in Brooklyn. A Hallmark Partners office and condominium project on Riverside Avenue adjacent to the Miles land is still on track for construction, he said.

Anyone have any idea of when these guys plan to move forward?

Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: Tripoli1711 on April 15, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
Disappointing but certainly not unexpected.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: RiversideLoki on April 16, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
5 dollars says they slap a walmart on it.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: Tripoli1711 on April 16, 2009, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on April 16, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
5 dollars says they slap a walmart on it.

My GOD! HAHA.  That is hilarious and yet horribly frightening at the same time because I can almost see it happening.  Would it not be an absolutely perfect (and very sad) commentary on the 'suburbia in the core' mentality to tell a visitor "Over here is the very successful RAM.. and a couple blocks down you have your Super Wal-Mart...
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: fsujax on April 16, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
Please dont give the City any ideas! just look at the suburban type development in Lavilla. It could spread!
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: RiversideLoki on April 16, 2009, 01:40:54 PM
They developed Lavilla? Coulda fooled me!
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: thelakelander on April 16, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 16, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
Lake do we have any pictures of the dynamited area?

holy freaking hell.

Yes, we have done two Brooklyn neighborhood photo tours since 2006.  They are in the Neighborhoods section.

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/brooklyn/disappearing-brooklyn.jpg)

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/453366061_CDCtG-M.jpg)

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/brooklyn/development-site.jpg)

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/989/117/

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/209/5/
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: heights unknown on April 16, 2009, 03:50:21 PM
And...this is basically what happened to downtown Jacksonville in the 60's, 70's and 80's..."dynamite and implode it and they will come!"

Heights Unknown
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: urbanlibertarian on April 16, 2009, 06:48:41 PM
Wow!  If we had a Walmart there I wouldn't have to drive from DT to Emerson St.  I could just walk to Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: vicupstate on April 16, 2009, 07:47:33 PM
I'm sure Walmart wouldn't be interested.

This always seemed too good to be true.  Is this Hallmark partners the group of attorneys that was going to build and move from the Southbank?   
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: thelakelander on April 16, 2009, 07:53:24 PM
200 Riverside
(http://www.hallmarkpartners.com/Website/building%20pics/200%20riverside/Camera%201.jpg)

Yes.  They are a part of the Hallmark project.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: vicupstate on April 16, 2009, 07:55:56 PM
Well that proposal has been on the table for give or take 10 years, if I am not mistaken.  if it hasn't been 10 years , it sure FEELS like it. 
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: thelakelander on April 16, 2009, 07:56:25 PM
Its been a while, at least eight.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: mtraininjax on April 17, 2009, 03:01:08 AM
QuoteAnyone have any idea of when these guys plan to move forward?

Right after they finish the huge pile of CROW on their table with Mayor Peyton and Ron Barton sitting next to them.

Wal-Mart does not setup shop where the closest residential neighborhood is over a mile away. Sad, Brooklyn really isn't a neighborhood anymore.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: fsujax on April 28, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
Well, it looks like we will have another 10 years of vacant land and no Skyway expansion for Riverside.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: mtraininjax on April 28, 2009, 10:39:20 PM
QuoteWell, it looks like we will have another 10 years of vacant land and no Skyway expansion for Riverside.

We don't need the skyway, we need the JTA to use the trolleys that were failed experiments for their downtown-San Marco route to test the waters between Riverside/Avondale/Ortega to Downtown. They have them, don't cost much to anything to run, and can prove if the skyway would succeed or not to Riverside.
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: Ocklawaha on April 29, 2009, 12:05:48 AM
Even without Brooklyn Park the Skyway Station as drawn would probably increase the over all ridership quite a bit. If I recall wasn't it the first one designed as a micro TOD? It was to have a couple of shops in it, plus be the feeder point for the bus system. Take it a bit farther south to Forrest or Blue Cross/Everbank/Fidelity and the whole system would start to change it's performance. Who wants to ride a PCT to downtown, southside or to their connecting bus at Rosa Parks if the Skyway can get you there without 44 stops? FLY SKYWAY!

Take those baby steps and I'll bet the farm that someone or something big ends up on the site of Brooklyn Park.


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Brooklyn redevelopment on hold; property for sale
Post by: Timkin on July 25, 2010, 12:02:57 AM
I will , for the first time in my life, agree with M-Train about something.. I CANNOT envision Walmart in Brooklyn.  Maybe a CVS or Walgreens, but not Walmart.  That said let me rant for a second.... I know I am preaching to the choir , for the most part...

WHY THE HELL DID SO MUCH MONEY GET SPENT TO DEMOLISH ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS , only for grass lots and slabs to replace them??? WTF were they thinking?