It looks like the old store on the corner of 6Th and Market will be demolished
You have to be kidding me.
Another old one coming down? >:(
At this rate, I'd better get out of this neighborhood before they take down our historic house with us still in it.
I talked with the owner today and that is her plan.
Demolish and build something new or demolish for a vacant lot?
The owner was not all that sure of what she is going to do. She has a good set of plans for a new historic looking 3 story building. I would not expect any type of construction until the market turns around.
Wow, all the plans they had for that location and now it's being demolished... surprise surprise...
I can see our slogan now...
Welcome to Springfield... No, no, not downtown the other parking lot!
That sucks.
Can someone post a pic. I'm trying to remember it.
Does the Historic Commission have to approve the demolition?
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=market+street+32206&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=j4jfSdrBH47rlQeRxfzfDg&ll=30.342711,-81.650986&spn=0.001206,0.001727&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=30.34284,-81.651154&panoid=8g6LomES9GHL6RumZYx4CA&cbp=12,141.3976387551544,,0,1.0869565217391295 (http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=chrome&q=market+street+32206&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=j4jfSdrBH47rlQeRxfzfDg&ll=30.342711,-81.650986&spn=0.001206,0.001727&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=30.34284,-81.651154&panoid=8g6LomES9GHL6RumZYx4CA&cbp=12,141.3976387551544,,0,1.0869565217391295)
Is that what you're talking about??? (link is to Google's street view)
^That's it.
I'm gonna be sick. That store was operating only a few years ago...I'm sure the building itself is just fine.
That's really sad. I've never been there but it looks too cool to trash. :'(
It's way too cool to trash. I'm not sure if it's non-conforming or not. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can weigh in if they need historic com approval to demolish.
I love historic buildings and architecture.......but that doesn't look like either.
Nothing too unique about it, from the outside at least.
Quote from: vicupstate on April 10, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
Does the Historic Commission have to approve the demolition?
Yes they are supposed to inspect it and approve. Not too long ago they would NEVER approve unless the building was falling in and was too dangerous to even inspect. No it seems all you gotta do is ask.
The wall facing 6Th street is the only historic part left and it is covered with a pinkish paint
Quote from: fsu813 on April 10, 2009, 02:29:09 PM
I love historic buildings and architecture.......but that doesn't look like either.
Nothing too unique about it, from the outside at least.
I was in the area earlier today and decided to snap a few "before" photos. It was built in 1915, so its just as historic as any other structure in the neighborhood.
http://apps.coj.net/PAO_PropertySearch/Basic/Detail.aspx?RE=0713130010
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/509559620_Zxw4S-M.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/509559638_fDDZD-M.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/509559617_AHbfS-M.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/509560071_PrAuk-M.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/509560588_ujbrz-M.jpg)
It has an interesting mix of building materials, styles and components. Textured block, residential over retail, gabled roofing with multiple chimneys and New Orleans style balconies over the sidewalk. You'll be hard pressed to find something identical to this in the historic district. The market condition suck, but someone with creativity could turn something like this into a special place. It will be sad to see it replaced with another vacant lot.
If it comes down, I hope this lot is zoned to allow for something just as dense to replace it. Springfield needs density.
The building has definite potential, but that would cost a lot of money to invest. On one had an ugly building looks better than a vacant lot. On the other hand a well designed new building on the empty lot would look even greater....Show me the money.
I think it's about deciding what your neighborhood wants to be. They fought to be a historic district, and now that they are, they want to torch every old building. Sometimes people forget that the neighborhood is a historic district BECAUSE of buildings like this, not the new stuff.
That's exactly what's happening....this neighborhood is historic, and there's SPAR...who seems to be perfectly okay with knocking down all of our historic buildings for new....if they keep this rate up, we'll be stripped of the historic district title.
I like this building. I remember going in when the store was open. I certainly hope it isn't torn down.
I used to go there too...it was nice having it so close by for bread and quick stuff like that. If nothing else it always seemed clean.
At the end of the day, SPAR is just not RAP...
I have to agree, they've lost their focus and no longer seem interested in preserving our historical value
A nice lady that use to live in my house back in the 50's came by a few months ago and told me stories about
living here as a little girl. One story she hold was that she use to sit on the front stoop swinging her legs looking at the store and wishing she had money for a lolly pop.
Quote from: TheProfessor on April 10, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
The building has definite potential, but that would cost a lot of money to invest. On one had an ugly building looks better than a vacant lot. On the other hand a well designed new building on the empty lot would look even greater....Show me the money.
That goes for every single house or building over there, not just this one.
They all cost more than they're worth to restore. You can get a 5000 sq ft house in S'field for <$100k, but you'll have to dump $300k into it. That's how it goes...
That's no reason to start knocking everything down.
It is by far easier and cheaper to build new than to restore. It is also easier to maintain a new home than an older, restored home.
But when is easier and cheaper, better?
It is an intregal part of urban sensibility to cope with a certain amount of ugliness. Shabby chic. That's us.
I lived right behind this building for two years. I met the owners several times and they shared thier plans with me. It is ashamed nothing has happend. That whole corner is coming along nicely. Lots of work has been done on the west side of Market St, if only this store could be converted into a mixed use it would pull it all together there nicely.
I couldn't agree more!
Sooooo why don't you guys pool some money and save it?
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 11, 2009, 02:36:27 AM
At the end of the day, SPAR is just not RAP...
True, which is why a growing number of Springfielders are choosing to join RAP.
Quote from: TREE4309 on April 13, 2009, 09:05:25 PM
Sooooo why don't you guys pool some money and save it?
Or why don't we just choose not to destroy it for right now? It is standing on its own after all.
Quote from: TREE4309 on April 13, 2009, 09:05:25 PM
Sooooo why don't you guys pool some money and save it?
I already lost more than enough money on Springfield termite-traps, thank you very much.
I need another one like a hole in the head.
Maybe someone can convince Meeks/Tredenick to purchase it. Seems they know how to work with Springfield's old buildings.
^^that would be nice.