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Community => History => Topic started by: stjr on March 25, 2009, 11:45:00 PM

Title: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: stjr on March 25, 2009, 11:45:00 PM
How about these excerpts from a 1918 map by the US Geological Survey of Downtown, Springfield, and Brooklyn (look how far north they have it)/Riverside and another of "downtown" from 1864:

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/JacksonvilleCenter.jpg)

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/New.jpg)

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/Brooklyn.jpg)

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/SoJacksonville.jpg)

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/M054701.jpg)

Lots more on this map and others including Mayport, Mandarin, etc. at: http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/duval.htm
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: stjr on March 25, 2009, 11:49:26 PM
From the South Jax map, it looks like the area at Landon and San Marco was a swamp.  No wonder it floods all the time!
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: thelakelander on March 26, 2009, 12:01:45 AM
If you look hard enough, you can see streetcar lines in these maps.
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: stjr on March 26, 2009, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 26, 2009, 12:01:45 AM
If you look hard enough, you can see streetcar lines in these maps.

Lake, are you being serious?  I looked for these but couldn't distinguish them on these resolutions.  I see lots of railroad lines and topographic boundaries, but if the streetcars are down the centers of streets, I am missing that.

I did find it interesting that what I take are downtown houses, are arranged on all four sides of a city block, apparently with a "hidden" courtyard of some sort in the center.  I know this was the case and still is with many of the older blocks of townhouses in Center City Philadelphia in the Indepence Hall/Society Hill areas.  Is this a correct interpretation or did they undersize the representations leaving much less interior block space, in reality, than indicated? 
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: thelakelander on March 26, 2009, 12:27:19 AM
Yes, I'm serious.  They are there.  Take a look at Main, Pearl, 4th, 8th and Walnut Streets in Springfield, in this image.  There are rail hatches in the middle of them.  Also, follow 8th from Springfield, in the direction of the port.   When 8th ends, the streetcar line continues for a short distance.

(http://fcit.usf.edu/FLORIDA/maps/local/duval/photos/JacksonvilleCenter.jpg)

Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 26, 2009, 07:27:50 AM
Very cool maps...
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: billy on March 26, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
J. Gordon Spottswood, son of the late Jack Spottswood, passed away recently.
Their commercial photography work has been collected by the State
in the Florida Memory Collection.
Many of their photographs have appeared on this site.

This is off topic, but related to the thread as far as historical documentation.
Maybe someone can attach a link to the obituary in the paper. 
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: billy on March 26, 2009, 08:31:53 AM
The Sanborn Fire Insurance maps typically have very detailed depictions of building footprints.
Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 26, 2009, 08:50:26 AM
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-03-24/story/1924-2009_spottswood_was_the_master_behind_the_lens

QuoteJ. Gordon Spottswood, who captured Jacksonville scenes and people on film for more than six decades and became the state’s first certified forensic photographer, died of heart disease Sunday...

Title: Re: 1864 & 1918 Maps of Jax, Springfield, Brooklyn/Riverside, Mandarin, Beaches, Etc
Post by: LPBrennan on April 23, 2010, 01:11:54 AM
Love Sanborn maps as well as USGS quads... great for railroads, but- alas- neither showed streetcar tracks!