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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => The Burbs => Mandarin => Topic started by: reednavy on March 03, 2009, 10:22:58 AM

Title: New Fresh Market
Post by: reednavy on March 03, 2009, 10:22:58 AM
Just fyi, Fresh Market is building a new location at the SE croner of San Jose BLVD and Julington Creek RD, beside the marina. Progress is coming along nicely, and concrete should be ready to pour within the next few weeks.

This will be a happening spot for those in Julington Creek. I guess this is as close as they can get to Julington Creek w/o actually being in St. Johns County and paying their taxes. Smart move IMO.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: copperfiend on March 03, 2009, 11:32:19 AM
I love the Fresh Market by Queens Harbor.

I wonder if they will close the existing store on San Jose near Bonefish when the new one opens.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: billy on March 03, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
I think they will.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Joe on March 03, 2009, 01:07:53 PM
Are St Johns taxes higher than Duval? I never really though about it before, but I just assumed that such an affluent county would have much lower property taxes.

Either way, sounds like it's the end of the line for the Fresh Market at San Jose and Claire Lane. It's kind of understandable though. That immediate area is getting so difficult to traverse, and that shopping center itself was always a bit awkward.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: blizz01 on March 03, 2009, 02:24:29 PM
I'm sure this move is a result of Whole Foods setting up camp so close.......
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: kellypope on March 08, 2009, 03:33:12 AM
I wonder what, if anything, would take the place of the San Jose and Claire FM. Whole Foods has definitely shifted the game in Mandarin. Oh, greenwashing.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on July 29, 2009, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: kellypope on March 08, 2009, 03:33:12 AM
I wonder what, if anything, would take the place of the San Jose and Claire FM. Whole Foods has definitely shifted the game in Mandarin. Oh, greenwashing.

It used to be a Food Lion store.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: reednavy on July 29, 2009, 04:12:34 PM
The WF in Mandarin used to be a Publix, not Food Lion.

Food Lion is at Old St. Augustine and Hartley.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on July 30, 2009, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: reednavy on July 29, 2009, 04:12:34 PM
The WF in Mandarin used to be a Publix, not Food Lion.

Food Lion is at Old St. Augustine and Hartley.

I thought the thread was talking about the Fresh Market moving. The current Fresh Market location was a former Food Lion. Food Lion went through a restructuring and moved out of the San Jose location. The developer divided the space into the Fresh Market and the Curves next door (or what ever that exercise place is). 

Yes, Whole Foods was Publix and some other stores that were swallowed up after Publix moved into the old Albertsons across San Jose next to Target. Target used to be several other stores that were removed so Target could go in there.

The next rumor is that Picasso’s Pizza in the Whole Foods plaza is moving to the old Rosa Lea’s location in the next plaza north. Rosa Lea’s was of course in the old Rumplestiltkins (sp?) location. This should be a good move since those guys are rumored to be chef trained and the new location should give them more seating and a chance to expand menu.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Deuce on July 30, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
This is all good and well, but I want a damn WF or FM in the urban core! I can't believe they haven't at least built in San Marco or near Avondale and Ortega!
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Captain Zissou on July 30, 2009, 09:38:57 AM
I agree with Deuce.  Mandarin is filled to bursting with grocery stores.  One thing that has always bothered me is that whole foods demolished a perfectly good grocery store to build a new grocery store right on top of it.....  Not very green if you ask me.  How much better would a warehouse conversion or an infill development have been?  Whatever, good for mandarin, but I won't shop at any of these places until one is built north of Lakewood at least.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: brainstormer on July 30, 2009, 09:45:16 AM
I would love to see a Trader Joes in the Urban Core, San Marco, or Springfield.  They love to enter markets in mixed use developments, and I really think one would do well here.  I miss "2 Buck Chuck" (now 2.78) and their fantastic pizza dough!
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: tufsu1 on July 30, 2009, 09:58:06 AM
that may be a while...there are no Trader Joes in Florida
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: brainstormer on July 30, 2009, 10:16:57 AM
^ I realize this, but Jacksonville is within a half day semi drive of Atlanta and a six hour drive from Charlotte, so a logical place to enter the Florida market would be here.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on July 30, 2009, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: Deuce on July 30, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
This is all good and well, but I want a damn WF or FM in the urban core! I can't believe they haven't at least built in San Marco or near Avondale and Ortega!

They perform a market study before opening a store.  They check population,  median income and distance to other shopping. Then there is the "niching".  What kind of figures do you think the Urban core has?
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on October 09, 2009, 09:54:02 AM
New store to open soon. I heard they were going to soft open next week.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: reednavy on October 09, 2009, 10:58:38 AM
That'd be soon, I went by there last week and interior construction looked far from done.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: fsu813 on October 09, 2009, 11:01:32 AM
Overstreet,

you said.... "they perform a market study before opening a store.  They check population,  median income and distance to other shopping. Then there is the "niching".  What kind of figures do you think the Urban core has?"

- i think b/t Riverside, San Marco, Murray Hill, Avondale, Springfield & Downtown........a Whole Foods would do just fine. That's more than enough "green", "upscale" shoppers to sustain it. Plus, everyone that works in the area but lives elsewhere that would stop by on the the way home too.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: reednavy on October 09, 2009, 11:19:52 AM
If another WF is coming to town, it'd likely be out at the Beach.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: billy on October 09, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
This is at Julington?
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Tripoli1711 on October 09, 2009, 01:15:27 PM
I think Riverside area would make much more sense than the beach.  The beach is a lot more Terry's Country Store types than you might suspect.  (I love Terry's, so there's nothing wrong w/ that)
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: reednavy on October 09, 2009, 02:00:02 PM
Good luck convincing WF to open another location here anyways. They do steady business, but they're likely not busy enough to warrant another location in the near future for the area.

Their biggest tipping point is when they look at demographics within the area before they procede with plans. As of right now, no other part of town could likely support a WF besides the Beaches.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on October 18, 2009, 09:40:06 PM
WF could always follow Harris Teeter. Open a Mandarin Store things go OK so you open one in Ponte Vedra.  Then close the Mandarin store when the novelty wears off and run the PV store for a while longer. Then move out of Florida.

The Fresh Market opened last week.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: thekillingwax on October 19, 2009, 06:48:53 PM
The new FM is really nice. They kept the same cozy interior feel but the layout is a little better with more space for the meat and deli areas and there seems to be more room in the aisles as well.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Sportmotor on October 19, 2009, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: reednavy on March 03, 2009, 10:22:58 AM
This will be a happening spot for those in Julington Creek. I guess this is as close as they can get to Julington Creek w/o actually being in St. Johns County and paying their taxes. Smart move IMO.

That intersection area is dangrous already with the bar there and drunk boaters coming and going from it. and that (nearly)blind corner that people love to run the light at and whip out infront of you. Not really thrilled with that addition to be honest since its become far more dangrous to drive through every day.

BUT YEA ITS A SLAPHAPPENING PLACE

(>_>) *shakes my paw menicingly at all you whipersnappers*
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Bativac on October 21, 2009, 11:09:07 AM
Did they close the old San Jose location already?
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Overstreet on October 21, 2009, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on October 19, 2009, 07:31:10 PM................That intersection area is dangrous already with the bar there and drunk boaters coming and going from it. and that (nearly)blind corner that people love to run the light at and whip out infront of you. Not really thrilled with that addition to be honest since its become far more dangrous to drive through every day............

Driving the speed limit north bound across the bridge helps. Many of the accidents have been the drivers from Julington Creek Road not stopping or negotciating the corner. 

Don't worry about the bar crowd. Nothing stays in business at that location for long.
Title: Re: New Fresh Market
Post by: Sportmotor on October 21, 2009, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: Overstreet on October 21, 2009, 11:15:30 AM

Driving the speed limit north bound across the bridge helps. Many of the accidents have been the drivers from Julington Creek Road not stopping or negotciating the corner. 

Don't worry about the bar crowd. Nothing stays in business at that location for long.

I drive the speed limit, if no where in town then right there around that 2 miles past and before that intersection.

I have noticed over the 10+ years NOTHING seems to last long in that spot lol