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Title: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: copperfiend on February 16, 2009, 12:48:25 PM
QuoteJACKSONVILLE, FL -- The Jacksonville Jaguars are set to release one of the most popular and productive players in the team's history, Fred Taylor.

The Jaguars have scheduled a news conference for 1:30 this afternoon to discuss the move.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=131459&catid=17 (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=131459&catid=17)
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 12:57:14 PM
From what I read on ESPN it sounds like they will try to resign him to a lesser $$$ contract. Hopefully he'll decide he wants to finish his career here even if it means less playing time and less money.

:-[
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 16, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Yeah, I would love for him to be back too. But from his perspective, that would mean there weren't any other teams willing to give him the playing time he wants (i think the PT is much more important to him than the money). And, I like Freddy so much that I would rather him be happy (ie, starting for another team) than be here. How's that for true love?
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: BridgeTroll on February 16, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
I love Fred too... Huge Brett Favre fan too... 'cept they should have made this move last year...
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 01:25:32 PM
QuoteAnd, I like Freddy so much that I would rather him be happy (ie, starting for another team) than be here. How's that for true love?

agreed 110%

Quote'cept they should have made this move last year...

He ran for over 1000 yards in 07 - you don't don't cut a guy like that.

Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Captain Zissou on February 16, 2009, 01:26:13 PM
I hope he stays, but I understand if he leaves.  If he does stay, I feel like he'll have a monster season.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: BridgeTroll on February 16, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
QuoteHe ran for over 1000 yards in 07 - you don't don't cut a guy like that.

Sure you do...  Favre took GB to the NFC championship the year before he was traded.  Had the best year in many.  Sometimes it is time to move on.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 01:42:12 PM
QuoteSure you do...  Favre took GB to the NFC championship the year before he was traded.  Had the best year in many.  Sometimes it is time to move on.

Favre retired at the end of 07. The team moved on without him. They drafted QB's with their first 2 pick's in the 08 draft. Then right before training camp, he decided to come back. It was too late to scrap all the plans they made in the off season.

Also Brett's arm showed it's age in his last season in GB. He was the biggest reason they lost the NFC championship game. Remember the under thrown pass that was intercepted and lead to the Giants winning score. He had some good games in 08 but really trailed off towards the end of the year.

Fred Taylor however did have one of the best years of his career in 07. I still watch the highlight vid's on you tube for thrills. Maybe the o-line being healthy was the difference between 07 & 08.?
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: BridgeTroll on February 16, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
Are you trying to say Fred is not showing his age?  As a fan I never want to see these guys move on or stay too long.  As management of a pro football team... sometimes you have to move on.

Favre's '07 season was as good statistically as his Super bowl winning season.  Many fans in GB have still not forgiven management for trading him after he wanted back.  They were wrong then and are still wrong.  I am sure under the right circumstances Fred is serviceable running back...
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Basstacular on February 16, 2009, 02:38:47 PM
I hate having to use the Steelers as a model, but they know when to cut ties with marquise players (Woodson, Porter, Lake etc.)  The jags made the best move possible today.  They gave freddy ample time to find a place to play in 09, saved 6 million, which part of will now be committed to locking up MJD to an extension and got young at RB.  MJD carries the rock 15-18 times and gets thrown to 4-5 times a game and you bring in a "pounder" in Greg Jones (i.e. Brandon Jacobs) for a true change of pace, which we never had when alternating Fred and MJD.  Times change folks and I applaud Gene Smith for this move and the two moves done last week.  I am more excited for the 09 season now then I was before this move.

MJD = Pro Bowl Selection in 2009
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
QuoteAre you trying to say Fred is not showing his age?  As a fan I never want to see these guys move on or stay too long.  As management of a pro football team... sometimes you have to move on.

Favre's '07 season was as good statistically as his Super bowl winning season.  Many fans in GB have still not forgiven management for trading him after he wanted back.  They were wrong then and are still wrong.  I am sure under the right circumstances Fred is serviceable running back...

I'm saying Fred did not show his age in 07 and that's why he wasn't cut in 08. Last year he did drop off considerably and subsequently he was cut. I didn't agree with you that he should've been cut before 08 when he showed no signs of slowing down.

GB fans would've stuck by Favre in to his 60's. He did have a good year in 07 until the playoff's when he really showed his age. The GB staff was right to stick with their desicion to move on especially after the draft they made and with a great young prospect in Aaron Rodgers.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on February 16, 2009, 04:05:25 PM
I am a little unsure about how I feel about the Fred Taylor move. I do agree with cutting Porter and Florence.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Jason on February 16, 2009, 04:40:47 PM
Is he up for a coaching job?  I'm sure MJD will attest to Fred's mentorship.  Maybe he can apply it to the other RBs?

If Fred moves on he'll definitely be missed.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: BridgeTroll on February 16, 2009, 04:46:43 PM
Fred will be missed... I agree.  It is time to look forward...
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 05:04:50 PM
QuoteIs he up for a coaching job?  I'm sure MJD will attest to Fred's mentorship.  Maybe he can apply it to the other RBs?

I think that's maybe why other teams will pick him up as a running back and pay high dollar. Theres a lot of young backs around the league that could use a veteran teacher to split time with like MJD had up until now.

I think Jimmy Smith would've been a great WR coach as he was hailed for being a great route runner. That's something you can teach and not really a "god given talent".
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Coolyfett on February 16, 2009, 05:37:11 PM
 ??? :'( :'( Thanks # 28 for helping to destroy the Miami Dolphins in the 99 playoffs. My Miami cousin are very happy to see Fred go, but I will always remember that beat down!!
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 16, 2009, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: Shwaz on February 16, 2009, 12:57:14 PM
From what I read on ESPN it sounds like they will try to resign him to a lesser $$$ contract. Hopefully he'll decide he wants to finish his career here even if it means less playing time and less money.

:-[

From the scrawler at the bottom of ESPN...Taylor says he offered to take a pay cut to stay with the team. Also from ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3911006:

QuoteDel Rio made it clear the team has no plans to re-sign Taylor

Still a long way between now and next season, but I dont expect him back. We'll see.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ac on February 16, 2009, 07:38:51 PM
Re: The "pay cut-"

Fred supposedly told Pete Prisco that he was asking for $4 mil.  He was set to be paid $6 mil, $1 mil in roster bonus + $5 mil salary. 

He obviously wasn't serious about the pay cut, considering that Maurice Drew will be the starter and is making only just over $500k (unless they re-do his deal during the offseason).  No way would the Jags pay Fred 4 mil to be a backup behind a guy making only half a mil.

Cutting him is in the best interest of both Fred and the team.  Fred can seek one last payday, and the Jags aren't spending 6 mil on a 2nd string back.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 17, 2009, 09:21:32 AM
QuoteStill a long way between now and next season, but I dont expect him back. We'll see.

From what DelRio said it sounds like it's not about money but younger legs. Jones-Drew will most likely get a new contract this offseason and the money he deserves. Greg Jones got a huge contract last year and he'll see more action. + Chauncey Washington who was drafted last year will probably be added more to the mix.

I would also bet money the Jags pick up a RB in the later rounds of this years draft.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Johnny on February 17, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
This sucks, I can understand it financially, but it still sucks. To let the man finish his career elsewhere is sad. Just 88 yards until he passes Riggins and jumps into the top 15 rushers in NFL history :(
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 17, 2009, 12:29:31 PM
Hey, maybe he'll end up in a big market...get a few shining moments...further endear himself to mainstream fans...and increase his chances to get to the HOF.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: thelakelander on February 17, 2009, 12:38:05 PM
How would Jags fans feel if he ended up playing for the Colts?
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: JeffreyS on February 17, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
I hope he catches on with a superbowl contender.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: JeffreyS on February 17, 2009, 12:38:47 PM
Just not Tennesee
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 17, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
My early guess would be Tampa. I've seen a few sports writers have suggested him going there too.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 17, 2009, 05:26:09 PM
i dont really wanna think about it. Wherever he ends up, I'll deal with my torn allegiances then. But my worst fear would probably be New England. Please, anywhere but there...
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: GatorShane on February 17, 2009, 06:28:11 PM
A sad day for me. I know it is a business, but it still hurts. I hope it doesnt take a long time to add his name on the ring of honor at JMS.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Charles Hunter on February 17, 2009, 08:57:51 PM
How about a reunion with Tom C at the Giants?
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Jason on February 18, 2009, 11:29:27 AM
I don't want to see Fred playing for anyone in our division.  My guess is Miami, he lives there (for the most part) and surely plans to retire there.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: thelakelander on February 18, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
It won't be Miami.  They already have their three top RBs under contract.  I don't think he'll be willing to sign for what they are paying Ricky Williams.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: deathstar on February 23, 2009, 05:40:47 AM
New England & Buffalo are interested. Woo Hoo Jacksonville!!! Gave away another player with a chance of going to one of two Super Bowl contending teams!
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on February 23, 2009, 08:34:09 PM
Bryon got his. I would like Fred to get his also, but I was hoping with the Jags and that the Jags would be the only team he would play for.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 24, 2009, 12:00:23 AM
Yeah, I knew New England would be interested. That's why I said I'd hate to see him go there...please don't do it Freddy. I won't be able to pull for you at all.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: civil42806 on February 24, 2009, 05:35:23 AM
Quote from: deathstar on February 23, 2009, 05:40:47 AM
New England & Buffalo are interested. Woo Hoo Jacksonville!!! Gave away another player with a chance of going to one of two Super Bowl contending teams!
Buffalo is a super bowl contender?
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 27, 2009, 10:46:56 AM
Freddt T. to sign with New England today...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939283 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3939283)

Now it will be less painful if the Pats win another title.

In a related story Tom brady signed a long term contract with super model Gisele Bundchen

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3938381 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3938381)
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 27, 2009, 12:50:45 PM
NOOOOOO!!! No way I can stomach a Pats title, even if it helps Freddy get into the HOF.

lol...nice segue to that second link, Shwaz.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Shwaz on February 27, 2009, 02:53:33 PM
Quotelol...nice segue to that second link, Shwaz.

Personally I feel it was a bad move by Tom's front office... especially since Megan Fox just became an unrestricted free-agent.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: ProjectMaximus on February 27, 2009, 11:15:13 PM
Tom's got enough money to stick the franchise tag on Gisele and pick up Fox too, no? Then he can tag em both...
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on February 28, 2009, 12:13:46 AM
Paul Spicer is now gone. This move I like he was or is way past his prime. Well Fred has a very good chance of getting a ring now.
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: deathstar on February 28, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
Give the Slackuars a round of applause: http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2009-02-27/story/taylor_expected_to_sign_with_patriots
Title: Re: Jaguars to Release Fred Taylor
Post by: JaYmeLyNn on March 21, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
Honestly, I hate the Jaguars. I'm a steeler fan, born and raised in Pittsburgh. I think Taylor is going to shine in New England. Another mistake by Jacksonville thats going to turn around and bite em in the ass! ???