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Title: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on January 27, 2009, 05:00:00 AM
Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park

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Located on the corner of Bay and Broad Streets, the Water Street garage pocket park may be the most overlooked public space in Downtown Jacksonville.

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Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: jeh1980 on January 27, 2009, 05:23:16 AM
That's a nice looking pocket park. I didn't know there was a park there. And it would be a great idea to put a few retail shops on the ground level. Wouldn't that be a site! :D  8)
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 27, 2009, 09:33:59 AM
Pretty enough, but like all the rest it seems devoid of life...maybe just the rainy day? How's it doing on a nice spring like lunch hour?

I still miss the COLOMBIAN PARKS and their tiny garden shed size, matching brick mini-shops. Micro Mickey D's (yeah the REAL thing), Dunkin, BK all the rest too. Wonder how this would do in the states?

Lakelander, do we have a better detail drawing or view of this layout?


OCKLAWAHA    
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: thelakelander on January 27, 2009, 09:36:31 AM
Sorry, I don't have a detailed drawing for this space.  Like most of downtown, it is devoid of life.  Its off the beaten path and there is no reason for most downtown pedestrians to even be in the area.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: copperfiend on January 27, 2009, 09:40:03 AM
It looks like an area they would find a body
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: vicupstate on January 27, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
It seems well suited for the homeless, lots of places to lay down, it's obscure, it's shaded.   
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: fsu813 on January 27, 2009, 10:23:25 AM
lifeless.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Bewler on January 27, 2009, 10:47:20 AM
Lifeless, secluded, lots of rails and curbs. This place should be swarming with skaters.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Doctor_K on January 27, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
^ Which would imply that there would be enough people living downtown for skaters to be a subset.  Since there are so few people living in the core, there are very few cultural subsets of which to be a part.   ;)
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Captain Zissou on January 27, 2009, 12:12:36 PM
I think that looks like a potentially awesome space for lunch goers/ the public in general.  I agree about the skaters, that would be a dream.  If the staircases weren't so broken up it would be more appealing. 
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Steve on January 27, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
Personally, I like the idea of convertin that portion of the garage for retail, like sidewalk cafe's, etc. However, there are plenty of other places to fix first.  In 300 years, when we fix the rest, we can look at this.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: jtwestside on January 27, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
Reminds me of prison.

I mean what I've seen on TV of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Jason on January 27, 2009, 01:37:10 PM
Quote from: Bewler on January 27, 2009, 10:47:20 AM
Lifeless, secluded, lots of rails and curbs. This place should be swarming with skaters.

I used to skate that park back in the day, although its not a great spot because of all of the brick.  The only thing that drew us to it were the steps and rails.  Even then, it still seemed kind of undiscovered.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Jason on January 27, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
How long had Google Earth had the 3D images now?  Looks great!
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: jaxtrader on January 27, 2009, 01:52:46 PM
There is a group of young skaters that hang out around the southbank on weekends and warm evenings. Interesting to see in such a sterile non-neighborhood. Also interesting is that it is a very racially mixed crowd and it that  it appears to be largely devoid of skating talent. ;D
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: thelakelander on January 27, 2009, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: Jason on January 27, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
How long had Google Earth had the 3D images now?  Looks great!

Its been at least a few months.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Bewler on January 27, 2009, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: jaxtrader on January 27, 2009, 01:52:46 PM
There is a group of young skaters that hang out around the southbank on weekends and warm evenings. Interesting to see in such a sterile non-neighborhood. Also interesting is that it is a very racially mixed crowd and it that  it appears to be largely devoid of skating talent. ;D

HA! Oh well, there's always Kona.

Actually is that place still open? It would make an interesting front page article for metrojax, if it hasn't already been covered.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Doctor_K on January 27, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
Jaxtrader - I've also seen moderately-sized skate groups on weekends in and around Friendship Fountain and other Southbank locales.  But wouldn't they come from the San marco neighborhood/area, typically?  This random 'pocket park' isn't anywhere near a neighborhood (since LaVilla exists in memory only, practically), nor any residential building or area. 

My comment was more to the fact that no one lives in that immediate area, so no one's going to use the space.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: BridgeTroll on January 27, 2009, 03:11:52 PM
http://www.konaskatepark.com/kona/index.html
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: jandar on January 27, 2009, 03:54:19 PM
Still the oldest continuously run skatepark in the world. (started 1977)
Its still a big hit in the skating world. There's really no modern park like it.

Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: stjr on January 27, 2009, 11:33:54 PM
This park looks like uuuuh.....a landscaped entrance to a parking garage? I would think that's the most that can be said about it.  This is a big stretch.  No wonder it's not recognized.  Why not call a park every landscaped lawn and median in an office park?  Is MJ running out of ideas to dwell on this?  How about some features on our state and federal parks and monuments in or about Jacksonville?  Few new residents probably know about these real treasures.

I have to laugh at a lot of what the city calls parks.  Many are just drainage, utility, or traffic easements.  The real keeper was when years ago park signs went up on school playgrounds.  Now that's a great way to double count our assets.  Let's put Bernie Madoff in charge of park acreage accounting.

As to Kona skate park, it's internationally famous in the skate board world and is featured in the best selling video game from world skater icon, Tony Hawk.  See this article on it's 30th anniversary:  http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/070607/lif_182014443.shtml
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: thelakelander on January 28, 2009, 12:04:07 AM
Quote from: stjr on January 27, 2009, 11:33:54 PM
Is MJ running out of ideas to dwell on this?  How about some features on our state and federal parks and monuments in or about Jacksonville?  Few new residents probably know about these real treasures.

As we've done in the past, we'll hit those too.  Feel free to explore the links at the top of the page to view many of our older articles.  There are three years worth of daily content to explore.  Excluding historic buildings and Friendship Fountain, this site, most parks, and what the city has to offer will not be going anywhere.  What is not shown, will eventually be covered.  So just stay tuned and enjoy the ride.

Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: DONTBELIEVETHEHYPE on January 28, 2009, 12:05:01 AM
Quote from: stjr on January 27, 2009, 11:33:54 PM
This park looks like uuuuh.....a landscaped entrance to a parking garage? I would think that's the most that can be said about it.  This is a big stretch.  No wonder it's not recognized.  Why not call a park every landscaped lawn and median in an office park?  Is MJ running out of ideas to dwell on this?  How about some features on our state and federal parks and monuments in or about Jacksonville?  Few new residents probably know about these real treasures.

I have to laugh at a lot of what the city calls parks.  Many are just drainage, utility, or traffic easements.  The real keeper was when years ago park signs went up on school playgrounds.  Now that's a great way to double count our assets.  Let's put Bernie Madoff in charge of park acreage accounting.

As to Kona skate park, it's internationally famous in the skate board world and is featured in the best selling video game from world skater icon, Tony Hawk.  See this article on it's 30th anniversary:  http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/070607/lif_182014443.shtml

Agreed - this is a "nothing" public space set in a "nothing" context
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: thelakelander on January 28, 2009, 12:07:22 AM
Its basically what every other "pocket park" in downtown is.  A landscaped left over piece of public property that was not properly designed to integrate with its surroundings.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: deathstar on January 29, 2009, 12:49:35 AM
 I never knew that existed, wow.
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: dejumoshi on January 29, 2009, 04:44:46 PM
my friends and i used to meet up and skate this park back in high school - it was just as lifeless then so we knew no one would kick us out
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Techo on April 07, 2009, 10:22:00 PM
Hey guy's  sorry I haven't been on in a while  hope the meetings are going well' I just wanted to put my input on this subject , Well I think the spot has great Potential     It Could  use some flowers, and maybe convert the middle into a fountain with flowers around it and off to the side  put  a Hot Dog cart  or something in that nature to bring the people down there and make it a great spot


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Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Ocklawaha on April 07, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
DUMB ASS
Hey man, looks like the kind of hot dog cart that would get my business... One sells SOCO the other REBEL YELL!

FAT ASS

Don't sweat the nicknames folks, it's a private joke...
Title: Re: Urban Parks: Water Street Garage Pocket Park
Post by: Techo on April 09, 2009, 06:57:46 PM
remember I'm sasquatch/dumbass ;D