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Title: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on January 05, 2009, 05:00:00 AM
Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School

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“Medical students at Florida State could be training in Jacksonville as early as July. The school plans to offer electives at the Mayo Clinic as well as a family practice rotation at St. Vincent's Medical Center. Florida State has plans to open a regional campus in Jacksonville for up to 20 students but has not determined when it might open.”Florida Times Union 12/07/04

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Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: SunKing on January 05, 2009, 08:18:38 AM
It looks like JEDC missed another opportunity for the city.  I wonder if Ron Barton even made an effort here.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: tufsu1 on January 05, 2009, 08:35:46 AM
It seems kind of surprising that this opportunity was "missed". 

After all, local state senator Jim King is a big FSU supporter...and former House Speaker John Thrahser (Med school named after him) chairs the FSU Board of Regents.

So it seems that if FSU was truly interested in Jacksonville, the City's ineptitude would not have stopped it.   
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: Steve on January 05, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
I disagree tufsu - my guess:

Peyton didn't actively turn it down, but my guess is that FSU didn't really push it with the city, and the city didn't push it with FSU.  I would consider that neglegence on our part, because Jacksonville would have benefitted tremendously.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: Bike Jax on January 05, 2009, 02:56:17 PM
Why should Peyton care? Daddy didn't profit from this venture.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: jtwestside on January 05, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
I smell some back room talks between Daytona and FSU. The law was written to specifically say Jacksonville; I don't think we should have had to be on hands and knees begging at that point. We probably lobbied to have it written into the law as it was. My guess is that Daytona had some sort of back room/under table connection to open up the talks before they became public. What we should have done is fought it on the basis of the wording of the legislation.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 05, 2009, 10:16:52 PM
Not to make excuses for Peyton on this but it seems to me there is more going on then we realize.

I don't really know what makes this guy tick. Peyton has shown again and again a complete lack of desire or ability to lead. Case after case of Jacksonville falling through the cracks continue to this moment. FSU or Shifting Mass Transit funds to pet road projects, it all equals neglect.

Or does it? Could there be some design behind this? Is it really the mayors fault?

I recalled an old college book on the "Ages of Man", which I just pulled from the shelf. A quick flip brought me back to a test that included things like:

Can you balance a book on your head for the entertainment of children?

When reading to a child, do you sit for hours on your heels?

In college did you ever open beer bottles with your teeth?

Is your head attached vertically to your neck?

Less than five feet tall?

Covered in Red Hair?

As I read on I became convinced that our mayor isn't a pure a pure homosapien. This rare condition effects more people in Jacksonville then any other American City. Thus the mayor feels inferior and will never be free to build bridges, compose symphonies, and create the worlds greatest city. If this is true it could be proved through DNA. A slight Neanderthal strain means that he will occasionally have spells of primitive behavior, walking around aimlessly and babbling wildly. If he lived in California, no one would notice, but he claims to live in Jacksonville. A Mayor with these traits can still function quite well in the modern world, but should avoid eating in fancy restaurants unless it's owned by a family member.

My best guess is that his Pleistocene heritage is predominant. If he were a larger size man, he could well consider a career in pro football. However, unfortunately, his genetic makeup seems sloth like; there is no place for these sad cases in normal human society. Yet a career in politics is highly recommended.

Lead on Peyton! Remember we're all just one DNA point from our ancestors. Besides why does this FSU thing have to be mutually exclusive. We're talking DBCC and a regional medical center, and ready made "turn key" facilities -vs- UNF/JU/UF/FCCJ/MAYO, seems like a no brain'er that we could still get the master school in this grouping. Pulling the LAW and the high rollers into the fight might even make them consider some new construction...about 100 miles NORTH of Daytona Beach. It's never to late, it's not like moving 20 students will break the State system.  


OCKLAWAHA  



Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: thelakelander on January 05, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
Eric Magini did not force Brett Farve to toss all of those interceptions this year, but he did get fired as a result.  Although its under Coach Peyton's watch, its not his fault but it is another missed opportunity.  Whether its Peyton, Delaney, Austin, Haydon Burns or whoever, maybe one day we'll get to the point where we can reduce our level of missed opportunities.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: jve55 on January 06, 2009, 02:41:50 PM
If you want the biggest reason why this was not pursued, you need to look at the school whose name is attached to the Shands Hospital, its graduates and alumni who are in control of this city.  This university fought the formation of the FSU med school for well over 10 years because they were afraid of losing students (= losing $$) to FSU.  Hidden from fact here in Jax is that finally at the proding of Jeb Bush, the UF controlled state legislature designed the criteria under which the FSU school was created, which was to fill a void in G.P. and senior care, something that is not emphasized in the UF curriculumn since it mostly creates specialists and ignores the G.P. side of medicine.  This area has always harbored a strong bias against anything having to do with FSU being established in this area.  Why do you think TK would take this out of the area?  He wanted to set this up in an area that he was welcomed in, and not one in which he was not.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: jandar on January 06, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
welcome to the board jve55.

Nice to see someone else who sees the extreme bias that UF gets with ties all over the place.
I have always wondered if this is Jacksonville, or Gainesville 2 at times.


UF and FSU have always battled over services offered and locations. They compete on more than just the playing field.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: ProjectMaximus on January 06, 2009, 06:13:39 PM
Of course. Universities have to look out for themselves (the school and the students) first. They only work together when it is mutually beneficial.

Lake is on fire with his analogies today.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: jtwestside on January 06, 2009, 07:30:02 PM
Yeah, I think we should totally kick UF out of town what have they ever done here in Jax! Honestly, I'd much rather have the handful of FSU students!   ;)

Seriously, there is plenty of blame to go around. Mostly I'd blame T.K. Wetherell and the Mayor, not UF.
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: RiversideGator on January 06, 2009, 11:34:57 PM
Quote from: jve55 on January 06, 2009, 02:41:50 PM
If you want the biggest reason why this was not pursued, you need to look at the school whose name is attached to the Shands Hospital, its graduates and alumni who are in control of this city.  This university fought the formation of the FSU med school for well over 10 years because they were afraid of losing students (= losing $$) to FSU.  Hidden from fact here in Jax is that finally at the proding of Jeb Bush, the UF controlled state legislature designed the criteria under which the FSU school was created, which was to fill a void in G.P. and senior care, something that is not emphasized in the UF curriculumn since it mostly creates specialists and ignores the G.P. side of medicine.  This area has always harbored a strong bias against anything having to do with FSU being established in this area.  Why do you think TK would take this out of the area?  He wanted to set this up in an area that he was welcomed in, and not one in which he was not.

Jealousy is not very becoming.   ;)
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: cayohueso on January 07, 2009, 02:45:30 PM
Jeez Riverside...took you that long to play the "jealousy" card?
Title: Re: Peyton's Struggles: FSU Medical School
Post by: jcjohnpaint on November 19, 2011, 10:01:58 AM
what has been the newest on this?