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Community => News => Topic started by: Ocklawaha on December 31, 2008, 03:06:04 PM

Title: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 31, 2008, 03:06:04 PM
DAMN! Just as they gave Putnam and Flaglers numbers to the "Orlando MSA" now they'll take St. Johns County too. Brunswick and J'Ville are next:

M  -  I  -  C  -  K  -  E  -  Y      M  -  0  -  U  -  S  -  E

HERE LIES THE SITE OF MODERN COWFORD
JUST ANOTHER MICKEY MOUSE TOWN...

QuoteAs the economic recession deepens, officials in Flagler and St. Johns counties unveil a radical plan to combine efforts and consolidate services. The two counties merge, forming John Flagler County. The combined sheriff's office and commissions select Flagler Estates as the new county seat, requiring the construction of transportation links to allow access to the county administration building from the former Flagler County side. In a related story, Marineland officials are rebuffed in their efforts to annex the newly combined county to increase property tax collections.

NOW someone tell me we won't fight to keep JOHN FLAGLER (STUPID NAME BTW) In OUR MSA?

JACKSONVILLE PULL YOUR HEAD OUT.  


OCKLAWAHA

Where the hell is Nocatee and Palatka? Oh, I know, next to OCOEE!  IDIOTS!  
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: Charles Hunter on December 31, 2008, 03:23:53 PM
Uh, Ock, what is the source for that story?  Sounds like "The Onion" or a similar satire publication.
Is the dateline "April 1"? 

The Federal government (Office of Management and Budget) determines what counties make up the MSAs (Metropolitan Statistical Areas) based on economic connections.  The Jacksonville MSA is Duval, Nassau, Baker, Clay, and St. Johns Counties.  The Orlando MSA is just Lake, Osceola, Orange, and Seminole Counties.  But it is also combined with a larger for Daytona, that does include Flagler, but not Putnam:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando-Kissimmee,_Florida,_Metropolitan_Statistical_Area
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 31, 2008, 03:35:55 PM
NOT A JOKE CHARLES!

No less then the Daytona Beach News-Journal...

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Columnists/TakeSpace/colTAKE123108.htm

Toward the bottom of the article.

My understanding is they have added Flagler and Putnam to the Orlando MSA, only a few months ago btw.


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: tufsu1 on December 31, 2008, 03:39:30 PM
There is nothing to fight about....the U.S. Census definitions are based on commuting patterns.

As such, there should be no concern about St. Johns County joining the Orlando MSA...and in fact, the new North Florida TPO (Jacksonville MPO) model includes Putnam County!
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: thelakelander on December 31, 2008, 03:46:58 PM
QuoteMy understanding is they have added Flagler and Putnam to the Orlando MSA, only a few months ago btw.

Doubt it.  Palm Coast/Flagler became its own metropolitan area in 2006.  However, it is a part of the Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach Combined Statistical Area.  After all, it does have a closer relationship with Volusia County than Duval.
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: Charles Hunter on December 31, 2008, 03:52:53 PM
Erm ... Ock, I think you've been "whooshed", the whole column, not "article" (note it is on the "opinion" page) appears to be a joke.  Sort of their version of Dave Barry.  
For example, this paragraph, and the title of the column:
Quote
Columnist peers into future of Flagler County . . . sort of
<snip>
· Also on the science and discovery front, a group of archaeologists excavating a Neolithic site in western Flagler County uncover a number of stone carvings in the Lake Disston area. The pictographic carvings depict a series of visits to the Earth by extraterrestrials shown to bring intergalactic foodstuffs to the planet, including the potato. Buoyed by the discovery, county officials begin marketing Flagler County as the "Birthplace of Spud" in a tourist development campaign. Archaeologists also reveal other tablets that include a recipe for potato salad.
<snip>

I remember several years ago, hearing a speaker from Flagler County describe his county as "the place where Daytona and Jacksonville will meet some day."
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: tufsu1 on December 31, 2008, 05:00:04 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on December 31, 2008, 03:46:58 PM
QuoteMy understanding is they have added Flagler and Putnam to the Orlando MSA, only a few months ago btw.

Doubt it.  Palm Coast/Flagler became its own metropolitan area in 2006.  However, it is a part of the Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach Combined Statistical Area.  After all, it does have a closer relationship with Volusia County than Duval.

correct Lake...this is why only Putnam County (and not Flagler) was added to the Jax. MPO model
Title: Re: St Augustine - St. Johns County to join ORLANDO MSA... I TOLD YOU SO!
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 31, 2008, 05:25:42 PM
You guys can have you own opinon if you want to but I fully expect Baker - Union and Leon to be the last hold outs.

"They'll also read where 59 people came marching out from Cowford with new ideas, concepts, and urban plans, just before the City Hall approved the new CONSOLIDATION and merged itself into the State of MICKEY."

The mayor said, "In a perfect world we'd like to stand alone, maybe even as ancient Jacksonville tried to do, but there just isn't money enough..."

GOT SOCO?


OCKLAWAHA