Bloody day for media personalities :).
Aside from Trump and other GOP'ers, I wonder if Carlson's departure will impact the ambitions of DeSantis. If he loses the presidency, I predict Fox will try to hire him as a host. I actually wonder if that is his end game. He will make a lot more money for sure in media.
Good riddance. I wish FAUX news would just sign-off permenantly.
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Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 24, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
The difference is Carlson literally made up stuff. All the while knowing it was false. FOX in court proceedings literally said he was not to be believed and that no reasonable person could be expect to.
Quote from: vicupstate on April 25, 2023, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 24, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
The difference is Carlson literally made up stuff. All the while knowing it was false. FOX in court proceedings literally said he was not to be believed and that no reasonable person could be expect to.
Lemon wasn't interested in truth either... the news world is better without them both. But I get the feeling you would welcome Lemon back with open arms...
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 26, 2023, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on April 25, 2023, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 24, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
The difference is Carlson literally made up stuff. All the while knowing it was false. FOX in court proceedings literally said he was not to be believed and that no reasonable person could be expect to.
Lemon wasn't interested in truth either... the news world is better without them both. But I get the feeling you would welcome Lemon back with open arms...
There is a HUGE difference between CNN and FOX and with those persons in particular, in regards to their professionalism and adherence to journalism standards. Your 'both sides' nonsense merely excuses the propaganda of FOX. Show me examples of Lemon saying one thing in front of the camera and the polar opposite in his private communications. Show me Lemon praising a political leader on the air and disrespecting them off the air for the same actions. Show me CNN publicly stating that they are engaged in 'entertainment' and not 'news'.
If you want to break the fever of the propaganda parading as news, you have to call it out and denounce it, and by that I mean FOX specifically.
Quote from: vicupstate on April 26, 2023, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 26, 2023, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on April 25, 2023, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 24, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
The difference is Carlson literally made up stuff. All the while knowing it was false. FOX in court proceedings literally said he was not to be believed and that no reasonable person could be expect to.
Lemon wasn't interested in truth either... the news world is better without them both. But I get the feeling you would welcome Lemon back with open arms...
There is a HUGE difference between CNN and FOX and with those persons in particular, in regards to their professionalism and adherence to journalism standards. Your 'both sides' nonsense merely excuses the propaganda of FOX. Show me examples of Lemon saying one thing in front of the camera and the polar opposite in his private communications. Show me Lemon praising a political leader on the air and disrespecting them off the air for the same actions. Show me CNN publicly stating that they are engaged in 'entertainment' and not 'news'.
If you want to break the fever of the propaganda parading as news, you have to call it out and denounce it, and by that I mean FOX specifically.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/aug/26/don-lemon/cnns-lemon-says-automatic-weapons-are-easy-get/
https://nypost.com/2021/12/07/don-lemon-did-not-mention-own-role-in-jussie-smollett-trial/
The difference is that FOX knows they are entertainment, CNN truly considers itself trustworthy news. Sorry to break it to you, Don Lemon isn't a good guy. Not to mention the allegations of his relationship with women at work. There's a real lack of ethical journalism across most of the national mainstream media.
Good riddance to both.
Quote from: vicupstate on April 26, 2023, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 26, 2023, 08:23:48 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on April 25, 2023, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 24, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Both were bomb throwers only interested in fanning flames... hope I never either of them again...
The difference is Carlson literally made up stuff. All the while knowing it was false. FOX in court proceedings literally said he was not to be believed and that no reasonable person could be expect to.
Lemon wasn't interested in truth either... the news world is better without them both. But I get the feeling you would welcome Lemon back with open arms...
There is a HUGE difference between CNN and FOX and with those persons in particular, in regards to their professionalism and adherence to journalism standards. Your 'both sides' nonsense merely excuses the propaganda of FOX. Show me examples of Lemon saying one thing in front of the camera and the polar opposite in his private communications. Show me Lemon praising a political leader on the air and disrespecting them off the air for the same actions. Show me CNN publicly stating that they are engaged in 'entertainment' and not 'news'.
If you want to break the fever of the propaganda parading as news, you have to call it out and denounce it, and by that I mean FOX specifically.
Defending CNN as professional? Man, we've now seen it all. They were the face of the biggest lie ever created during an election year - that Trump and Russia colluded to steal the election from Hillary. But if you want just one example as requested...
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/339632-new-okeefe-video-shows-cnn-producer-calling-russia-coverage-mostly-bullshit/
Yea, Don Lemon sucked. Let's put aside his noteworthy discretions in the last couple years for a sec:
I remember when the Michael Dunn trial was taking place in Jacksonville for the killing of Jordan Davis and the jury originally hung on the charge of murder. Lemon was going ballistic on the anchor desk while reporting the live news. I realize he had a show where he was free to offer his opinion. So be it, but that wasn't his role that night. He was on the anchor desk for live, breaking news. In that role his job is to report the news, not offer his opinion of the news. I thought it was an AWFUL look for both CNN and Lemon.
Only 6 people were in that Jury Room and I (nor Lemon) watched every minute of that trial - who are any of us to critique the jury's decision in that case? Maybe the prosecution did a terrible job presenting evidence or maybe the Jury wasn't a great one - it happens unfortunately but it's our system, and in that space his job was to report the news without bias and failed in my eyes.
Side note: they retried him, and he was then found guilty of first degree murder, so at this point it's clear that Dunn murdered Davis. That isn't the point. The point is he can't keep his personal views of a matter separate from his job as a news anchor.
Good move by CNN.
Now with all of that said - in no way was the defense of Fox News or Tucker Carlson. He sucked too and by the Dominion settlement, clearly Fox News failed in reporting news here.
Both Fox News and CNN (and Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon) contribute significantly to the divisiveness and tribalism running rampant in the country. Both push the narrative that the world is black and white, and that those with differing opinions are to be scorned, ridiculed, and shouted down. Fox News wears its craziness a lot more openly and publicly acknowledges its conservative slant, while CNN presents itself as straighter news but subtly editorializes everything. Not entirely sure which is worse, but certain that neither is healthy for viewers nor constructive toward building a civil democracy.
I don't see any coincidence in both of these bozos getting the same lawyer...