QuoteThe Downtown Investment Authority says it will try again to put the Snyder Memorial building on the market to find a buyer or developer to repurpose the historic church.
DIA Director of Downtown Real Estate Development Steve Kelley told the authority's Retail Enhancement and Property Disposition Committee on June 15 that it plans to solicit a request for proposals.
Full article: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-may-put-historic-snyder-memorial-building-on-the-market
I love this building so much. I've always thought it would be an incredible music venue similar to Ponte Vedra Music Hall.
What happened to the plans to convert it into something like Underbelly? I remember during One Spark they had it open and there were talks of it becoming a brewery / music venue.
That died a long time ago. Not for sure that was anything more serious than a very very conceptual proposal for the property.
I remember when this building was a viable Church (way way back). I think a restaurant/sports bar eatery would be appropriate. If not that, maybe an entertainment venue of some sort. Raze it? No. But the way our city leaders think, don't rule that out either.
Isn't one of the only pre-fire buildings left in the core?
No, it was built in 1903. Everything in this portion of downtown was destroyed by the Great Fire.
But... my oh my where will the panhandlers go?
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 30, 2022, 06:22:33 AM
But... my oh my where will the panhandlers go?
With the qualifier that maybe I'm just totally unapproachable, there really aren't many traditional panhandlers downtown, at least during the week. I can count on one hand the numbers of times I've been asked for cash in the CBD in the last five years or so. Really does seem to be mostly people who legitimately seem like they belong in a mental facility getting help. Mumbling to themselves. In the case of Snyder, literally laying in the sidewalk all day, sometimes without pants.
Beach Boulevard on the other hand has become borderline unsafe with all the panhandlers. At nearly every intersection these days, you've got people camped with boilerplate signs, walking up and down the median, and sometimes into traffic. I take it by the fact that cops drive right by them that it's not illegal?
^ It is illegal, but, apparently, the cops have more pressing needs. Like not getting out of their air-conditioned cars into the 90+ degree heat.
Quote from: Ken_FSU on June 30, 2022, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 30, 2022, 06:22:33 AM
But... my oh my where will the panhandlers go?
With the qualifier that maybe I'm just totally unapproachable, there really aren't many traditional panhandlers downtown, at least during the week. I can count on one hand the numbers of times I've been asked for cash in the CBD in the last five years or so. Really does seem to be mostly people who legitimately seem like they belong in a mental facility getting help. Mumbling to themselves. In the case of Snyder, literally laying in the sidewalk all day, sometimes without pants.
Beach Boulevard on the other hand has become borderline unsafe with all the panhandlers. At nearly every intersection these days, you've got people camped with boilerplate signs, walking up and down the median, and sometimes into traffic. I take it by the fact that cops drive right by them that it's not illegal?
My understanding is that panhandling is not illegal if they only approach your car when you waive them over from the sidewalk to contribute to their cause. I think this is the result of court decisions about freedom to hold a sign as long as you don't harass people.
Most of the panhandlers I see are "regulars" with cookie-cutter signs and using the exact same locations repeatedly (is there a school for this? :) ) over several years making me suspect they are not homeless and not mentally ill, just seeking tax free money without working for it legitimately. I donate to well known social agencies so they can access these agencies that will triage their "needs" and determine what is truly appropriate to support them, something I am not set up to do on my own.
Quote from: Ken_FSU on June 30, 2022, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 30, 2022, 06:22:33 AM
But... my oh my where will the panhandlers go?
With the qualifier that maybe I'm just totally unapproachable, there really aren't many traditional panhandlers downtown, at least during the week. I can count on one hand the numbers of times I've been asked for cash in the CBD in the last five years or so. Really does seem to be mostly people who legitimately seem like they belong in a mental facility getting help. Mumbling to themselves. In the case of Snyder, literally laying in the sidewalk all day, sometimes without pants.
Beach Boulevard on the other hand has become borderline unsafe with all the panhandlers. At nearly every intersection these days, you've got people camped with boilerplate signs, walking up and down the median, and sometimes into traffic. I take it by the fact that cops drive right by them that it's not illegal?
I've been doing at least one tour a month of Downtown since last October, including at times when we're the only ones down there besides the regulars. I can count on one hand the number of times I or anyone on my tour has been panhandled there. In Five Points, on the other hand, it's multiple times a week.
A cool building. Is there a link to interior photos?
My good friend lives at Churchwell Lofts. He see's the homeless and panhandlers up close and personal. Do you folks live downtown?
I remember dropping him off one evening after he returned from travel, about 11 pm. Before he could make it to his door a dude was asking him for help....$$$. Gas money as I recall.
And I have been hit up every time I get a beer at Bold City DT....
In Five Points its a couple of times between Hawkers and MedMen.
My comment regarding panhandling was less about panhandling and more about a abandoned landmark building used mainly by the homeless...
Quote from: MusicMan on June 30, 2022, 07:41:09 PM
And I have been hit up every time I get a beer at Bold City DT....
I get hit up every blue moon. No more than any other city though. It's been the same, regardless of where my Northbank offices have been since 2010.
Apparently this is being talked about again:
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2024/nov/20/dia-could-put-snyder-church-up-for-disposition-in-spring-2025/
But, here's a gem of a sentence:
QuoteThe first DIA-funded event was the October Art Walk at the request of Mayor Donna Deegan, according to the agenda item, Resolution 2024-11-07.
Let me get this straight....it took the MAYOR HERSELF to push this idea!? I mean I think Deegan is doing a good job about 16 months into the gig, but is she supposed to prompt action on every vacant block downtown?
Quote from: Steve on November 21, 2024, 08:24:55 AMLet me get this straight....it took the MAYOR HERSELF to push this idea!? I mean I think Deegan is doing a good job about 16 months into the gig, but is she supposed to prompt action on every vacant block downtown?
And if there are interested parties, as we've heard for years, why hasn't the disposition happened already?
Instead of the DIA "considering" an RFP six months down the road?
I get that there are limited resources and lots of things to get to, but for such a key, strategically located property, it's pretty staggering that no progress has been made in reactivating it during the entire run of this last DIA administration.
I worked on this one, and the reason it came from the mayor is that it needed some coordination. DVI handled the event, and DIA provided the funding, and both stepped right up to get it ready for limited use again (it's stable enough, but it needs portolets, staffing, etc. to be usable for events). It'll take more to get it in a position to sell, let alone to find its next use, but getting it ready and allowing people to see how cool it is will hopefully help with that.