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Title: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on December 15, 2021, 07:05:37 PM
Stumbled upon this article just today. It appears she's (the Orleck) being evaluated and assessed for fitness to be a Museum in our great City of Jacksonville. I hope she passes. I think there's other developments, etc. that are proposed, hopefully, to go along with the Orleck if  she comes to Jax.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-jacksonville-naval-museum-sends-uss-orleck-museum-ship-to-drydock/ar-AARQWp6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on January 08, 2022, 06:46:23 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT COMING TUESDAY, and it will be a yes or no relative to whether the Orleck is coming to "Big Jax."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/announcement-scheduled-for-tuesday-about-plans-to-bring-destroyer-to-jacksonville/ar-AASwMCc?ocid=msedgdhp
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: Charles Hunter on January 08, 2022, 08:41:55 PM
If it comes, maybe they can use its guns to bring down the Berkman2 - that would be a Game Changer!
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: thelakelander on January 08, 2022, 09:29:52 PM
That would be a demolition I'd actually show up to see!
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on January 09, 2022, 01:49:39 PM
LOLOLOL...you guys are merciless, and, my side is hurting; but I agree.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on January 11, 2022, 05:39:47 PM
IT'S OFFICIAL! USS ORLECK COMING TO JACKSONVILLE!!!!!!!

As a retired U. S. Navy Military Veteran, this is great news, and, it's super news for the City of Jacksonville and the entire metropolitan area.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uss-orleck-headed-for-new-home-in-jacksonville/ar-AASGa6W?ocid=msedgntp
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: jcjohnpaint on January 11, 2022, 05:43:28 PM
pretty cool!
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: jaxlongtimer on March 01, 2022, 10:01:30 PM
50+% cost overruns and the ship isn't even here yet!  This was the concern many of us had about this project.

QuoteCost of bringing ex-USS Orleck to Jacksonville has increased by hundreds of thousands, says museum

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — (The video above is from a previous story)

The Jacksonville Naval Museum is looking for donations after the cost of bringing the ex-USS Orleck to the First Coast has gone up.

Last week, the museum says the 77-year-old ship was floated with no reported leaks.

"The staff of Gulf Copper have done great work to restore and preserve the historic warship," said the Jacksonville Naval Museum (JHNSA) in a press release.

However, the level of restoration and preservation has added cost.

Pre-COVID estimates were at $1.3 million to bring the ship to Jacksonville. Those costs have increased to $1.8 million after labor and materials, says the museum.

"Additionally, 2020's Hurricane Laura caused at least $250,000 worth of damage that added to the overall work cost," said the Jacksonville Naval Museum. "In total, the cost will now be at an estimated $2 million."

JHNSA says even further costs are in store, with the tow from Texas and additional work to be done to fully set up the pier and prepare the ship to open up as a museum. Donations and corporate sponsorships can be made here.

The ship could be ready for tow in mid-March. The tow to Jacksonville is expected to take approximately 10 to 12 days.

Once moored, the JHNSA will continue to prepare the museum ship for visitors, opening as the Jacksonville Naval Museum.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/cost-of-bringing-ex-uss-orleck-to-first-coast-has-increased-by-hundreds-of-thousands-says-museum/77-b266444a-fb5d-40d4-8e0f-5d6169c40a6e
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: thelakelander on March 01, 2022, 10:28:04 PM
Not surprising at all. Those things are well known money pits. No reason to expect that this one won't be. Nevertheless, I wish them the best and most success.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: thelakelander on March 02, 2022, 08:20:50 AM
QuoteCosts grow as USS Orleck prepares for move

(https://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/USS-Orleck/i-bS7cVG9/0/72c7cfcc/L/download%20(2)-L.jpg)

Costs continue to grow as USS Orleck prepares for move to Jacksonville.

Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/costs-grow-as-uss-orleck-prepares-for-move/
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 02, 2022, 09:03:04 AM
Lol... absolutely no one should be surprised.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: vicupstate on March 03, 2022, 07:35:14 AM
Has someone asked Louisiana why they no longer want the ship for THEIR museum?
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: thelakelander on March 03, 2022, 09:03:21 AM
Here is an article that highlights a few reasons for moving the ship:

https://www.americanpress.com/2021/12/15/240722/
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: Snaketoz on March 03, 2022, 09:13:38 AM
I predict that there will be mediocre interest at first, then little interest, then towed away for scrap.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 03, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
It would make a really nice fish home and dive site
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: jaxlongtimer on March 03, 2022, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on March 03, 2022, 09:13:38 AM
I predict that there will be mediocre interest at first, then little interest, then towed away for scrap.

More specifically, after they are in the hole for hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, the City (i.e. taxpayers) will repeatedly bail them out.  Only after such fruitless investment, THEN the ship will be towed away for scrap (a variation on City "demolitions") and we will just repeat the process with the next "great idea" that is politically sexy but not well thought out.

Their first mistake was committing to take on this project without all the money in the bank or reliably pledged for the total of (a) all the startup funding plus a substantial contingency (they should have expected the unexpected) and (b) a substantial endowment to cover ongoing maintenance and likely financial "bumps" in the road (a pandemic, storm damage, extraordinary maintenance and/or capex issues, failure to meet financial projections, longer than expected opening date, etc.)  that inevitably will occur at some point.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: Todd_Parker on March 03, 2022, 03:37:40 PM
Missing a good tie-in opportunity with the Jacksonville Armada FC (U-23). Is there room on the Orleck's deck for a full-size soccer pitch?
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on March 03, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
So much for a Museum Ship in Jacksonville; hey...the USS JOHN F. KENNEDY is still available; but WHERE would we put it, and WHO would be interested in such an undertaking?
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on March 27, 2022, 11:01:49 AM
A Master Chief (retired) Shipmate of mine stated that the USS Orleck has arrived in Jacksonville. I think this happened yesterday (3/26/22). Very little fanfare (prob why we missed it), but here's the article:

https://news.yahoo.com/uss-orleck-way-downtown-jacksonville-161702505.html
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: edjax on March 27, 2022, 01:07:14 PM
^^its in a separate thread about the cost increase. .  Also there is an article in Daily Record yesterday with great pictures.
Title: Re: Evaluating, Assessing, and Readying the USS ORLECK: "COMING TO JACKSONVILLE?"
Post by: heights unknown on March 28, 2022, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: edjax on March 27, 2022, 01:07:14 PM
^^its in a separate thread about the cost increase. .  Also there is an article in Daily Record yesterday with great pictures.
Thanks!!!