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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on February 25, 2021, 08:08:22 AM

Title: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: thelakelander on February 25, 2021, 08:08:22 AM
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Mayor Lenny Curry rejects the idea that he's the 'Tear Down Mayor,' but a review of projects in the Downtown Northbank through his time in office shows there's been more demolition than new construction. Still, Curry can count a number of successes in one area: the adaptive reuse of existing buildings.

Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/demo-lenny-is-curry-the-tear-down-mayor/
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: heights unknown on February 25, 2021, 08:41:55 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2021, 12:08:49 PM

There's a lot being built in Jacksonville.  Lots of good stuff.  Northbank of downtown is all of what?  3% of the city?
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: Peter Griffin on February 26, 2021, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2021, 12:08:49 PM

There's a lot being built in Jacksonville.  Lots of good stuff.  Northbank of downtown is all of what?  3% of the city?

yet it seems to be 100% of the focus of this forum

Ignoring the new construction in Brooklyn and on the southbank seems disingenuous
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: thelakelander on February 26, 2021, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Peter Griffin on February 26, 2021, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 26, 2021, 12:08:49 PM

There's a lot being built in Jacksonville.  Lots of good stuff.  Northbank of downtown is all of what?  3% of the city?

yet it seems to be 100% of the focus of this forum

This is the downtown section of the forum. The other sections would have more information on things related to places outside of downtown.

QuoteIgnoring the new construction in Brooklyn and on the southbank seems disingenuous

Less disingenuous than annexing historic neighborhoods and making them a part of downtown for marketing and CRA taxation purposes. In any event, most can agree that when people talk of wanting to see downtown revitalized, the majority people equate that to the actual historic downtown, as opposed to the North Florida Shipyards and cement silos next to the Mathews Bridge (which by legal definition are considered to be downtown now).
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: Tacachale on February 26, 2021, 03:45:00 PM
What the article actually says about the Brooklyn, LaVilla and Southbank projects:

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Curry can also point to several completed or ongoing new construction projects in the outer districts officially lumped in as part of Downtown. There have been a number of projects in Brooklyn, LaVilla and the Southbank, as well as Daily's Place and the Jaguars practice field in the Stadium District.

These projects are good for their areas, but being in some cases more than a mile from the Northbank Core (and for the Southbank, across the river), they don't do much for walkability and vibrancy there. As we've written, vibrancy relies on the "Three C's": the clustering of complementing uses in a compact setting. As anyone who's been Downtown at night can attest, even good projects don't move the needle when they're spread out over miles.

The projects are good for their areas, but pretending they're going to drive vibrancy in the Northbank is moonshine - and a big part of why the Northbank remains so slow after all this time.
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: DTWD_NW904 on February 26, 2021, 11:05:13 PM
Im still upset about the Landing....
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: bl8jaxnative on February 27, 2021, 12:32:26 PM

There's something concerning about seeing people who want development downtown when faced with development downtown invoking "but that's not the proper, true downtown-downtown".

Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: JeffreyS on February 27, 2021, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 27, 2021, 12:32:26 PM

There's something concerning about seeing people who want development downtown when faced with development downtown invoking "but that's not the proper, true downtown-downtown".


Yes why on earth would people complain about 50 million For an empty field where the Landing used to be.
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: thelakelander on February 27, 2021, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 27, 2021, 12:32:26 PM

There's something concerning about seeing people who want development downtown when faced with development downtown invoking "but that's not the proper, true downtown-downtown".


Would it be better for people to say they want development specifically in the historic Northbank? The area that was considered downtown before the 1980s?
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: Snaketoz on February 27, 2021, 07:10:21 PM
Lenny the leveler.
Title: Re: Demo Lenny: is Curry the 'Tear Down Mayor?'
Post by: Tacachale on February 28, 2021, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: bl8jaxnative on February 27, 2021, 12:32:26 PM

There's something concerning about seeing people who want development downtown when faced with development downtown invoking "but that's not the proper, true downtown-downtown".

You guys are doing so awesome against this strawman, maybe next you could take a crack at the actual argument in the article.