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Community => History => Topic started by: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2008, 03:51:44 PM

Title: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
I've watched the local print media, the TV, radio stations, and MetroJacksonville struggle with the name of a Jacksonville resident long enough.

WE ARE NOT:

Jacksonvillian's - or any derivation

WE ARE NOT:

"Jacksonville's residents" or "Jacksonville's citizen's" etc...

WE ARE:

JAXSON'S

The word Jaxson was coined not long after the founding of the City. It is found throughout the files of the Jacksonville Historical Society as well as all of the news sources of history. Articles as late as the 1930's and 40's still loudly proclaimed, "As Jaxsons...", "Jaxsons today...", "We Jaxsons..." etc...

The NFL got it right and did it's homework with our beloved Kitty: Jaxson De Ville

Thus the terms:

N.A.S. JAX

or

JAX On your airline or railroad tickets.

So for all 900,000 or so of you newbie transplants
Now you know the story.
Speech correction requested
PLEASE GET IT RIGHT !

We live in JACKSONVILLE

We are JAXSONS - And Damn Proud of it!


OCKLAWAHA
Lightning tossing old history geek!

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Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
Maybe you are Stephen, but historically we have always been Jaxsons. But don't let me ruin your Jax-speak my friend, just shine on!

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: JeffreyS on October 27, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
OK just don't call me Micheal, Tito or Jermaine :D.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: stephElf on October 27, 2008, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: stephendare on October 27, 2008, 03:56:52 PM
Im a Jacksonvillian, my friend.

I'm with you.

"Jaxson" makes me want to vomit.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Jason on October 27, 2008, 05:21:21 PM
Thanks Ock, Jaxson is it!  I've always been bothered by the term "Jacksonvillian".  Way to much to say.


Steph.... here is a towel to wipe the vomit off of your keyboard.  ;)
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Doctor_K on November 05, 2008, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
WE ARE:

JAXSON'S
Right up there with Southrons?  ;)
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: deathstar on November 08, 2008, 12:01:13 AM
That's how them boys on the westside of town say it, eh? We be from Jaxsonville!
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: blizz01 on December 04, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
Someone needs to update Wikipedia, it spells Jaxsons as "JAXONS":



QuotePeople from Jacksonville can be referred to as either "Jacksonvillians" or "Jaxons".
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: coredumped on December 04, 2014, 04:56:13 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on December 04, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
Someone needs to update Wikipedia, it spells Jaxsons as "JAXONS":

What page are you referring to? I only found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxon_%28disambiguation%29
which makes no mention of Jacksonville.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: I-10east on December 04, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on December 04, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
Someone needs to update Wikipedia, it spells Jaxsons as "JAXONS":



QuotePeople from Jacksonville can be referred to as either "Jacksonvillians" or "Jaxons".

I updated it as 'Jaxson' on the Jacksonville page (hope it stays, because of the dumb reference link). I didn't make a 'Jaxson' wiki page though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida

Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 04, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Fixed.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 04, 2014, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Doctor_K on November 05, 2008, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 27, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
WE ARE:

JAXSON'S
Right up there with Southrons?  ;)

Never saw this post but yes Doctor K, as in SOUTHRON...

English (Southron)  Go to the "Audio references" section

Definition:   of, relating to, or characteristic of England, its culture, or people
Class:   pertaining adjective (relational/pertainym)
Derived from:   England
Related to:   anglicize
Comparative:   more English
Superlative:   most English
Original source:   Princeton WordNet
Usage examples:   
English literature
the English landed aristocracy
English history
Synonyms:   Southron [Scotland] | E. [acronym] | E [acronym] | Eng. [abbreviation]
Etymology:   Old English Englisc (see "Angle", "-ish1"). The word originally denoted the...
(Source: Oxford Dictionary)  [more]
All senses of English...
Definition references  (+images)

Collins Dictionary:   
Southron
[mainly Scottish] a Southerner, especially an Englishman | [Scottish] the English language as spoken in England | [dialect, southern United States] an ... (20 of 253 words, 4 definitions, 2 usage examples, pronunciation)
www​.collinsdictionary​.com​/dictionary​/english​/southron  [cite]

Wikipedia:   
Southron [disambiguation]
a term meaning "a person from the south". It's uncommon in modern usage. It was originally used by Scots to refer to the English. Other notable uses are: A person from the Southern United States in general | Historically, a person from the Confederate ... (43 of 134 words, 4 definitions)
en​.wikipedia​.org​/wiki​/Southron  [cite]

American Heritage Dictionary:   
southron | Southron [sense-specific]
often "Southron" A person who lives in the south, especially an Englishman as called by a Scotsman. | A native or inhabitant of the American South. ... (25 of 47 words, 3 definitions)
www​.yourdictionary​.com​/southron  [cite]

Merriam-Webster:   
Southron [entry 1, adjective] | Southern [synonym] | English [synonym]
[Scottish] "Southern" ; specifically, "English" (5 of 21 words, pronunciation)
www​.merriam-webster​.com​/dictionary​/southron  [cite]
Southron [entry 2, noun] | Englishman [synonym]
"Southerner": as ; [Scottish] "Englishman" ; [southern United States] a native or inhabitant of the southern U.S. (17 of 31 words)
www​.merriam-webster​.com​/dictionary​/southron show=1  [cite]

Random House Dictionary:   
southron | Southron [sense-specific] | southerner [southern United States, definition 2, synonym, sense-specific]
[southern United States] southerner (definition 2) | "Southron": [Scottish] a native or inhabitant of England. (14 of 19 words, 2 definitions, pronunciation)
dictionary​.infoplease​.com​/southron  [cite]

Wiktionary:   
Southron | Southrons [plural]
[historical] Someone from the American South, that is, from the Confederate States of America. | Alternative capitalization of "southron" (18 of 19 words, 2 definitions)
en​.wiktionary​.org​/wiki​/Southron  [cite]

Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: mtraininjax on December 05, 2014, 05:40:43 AM
Good luck with this campaign, every news station in town and the damn papers think that anything west of the river is , duh, the "Westside", so while Old Middleburg Road may be the westside, it is assumable from newbies who move here and are told by their predecessors over and over and over again that Ortega Blvd is the westside as well.

Journalism is dead!
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Tacachale on December 05, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
Both "Jacksonvillian" and "Jaxson" (or "Jaxon") have been in use for many years. "Jaxsons" sounds better to the discriminating ear, but the fact is that it's less common.  In fact, I doubt that even people who prefer it would use it in all situations, considering that not everyone will know what they're talking about. This comes up in the news on occasion:

http://news.wjct.org/post/what-do-you-call-someone-jacksonville
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/042600/met_2898986.html
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: peestandingup on December 05, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
Most people I see on social media almost always use Jaxsons. Given that our airport code (and other codes) are JAX, and the fact that many MANY people in general refer to Jacksonville in short as "Jax", I'm pretty sure its here to stay fellers.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: blizz01 on December 05, 2014, 10:22:04 AM
I seem to recall Mr. Khan lobbying/directing the (NFL) networks to use JAX in lieu of the JAC abbreviation (in graphics/scoreboards).  Thought it looked "edgier"...
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: I-10east on December 05, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
That 'JAC' crap makes me wanna pull my hair out.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: simms3 on December 05, 2014, 10:46:51 AM
I'd never heard of Jaxson until this website.  I've never really seen either on social media as nobody seems to ever refer to the people of Jacksonville, however, in language I've heard Jacksonvillian used.

The city name isn't really conducive to this sort of "identity" branding.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 05, 2014, 02:04:38 PM
Sorry to the TU 'experts' and others but indeed JAXSON is the ONLY NAME found in historical books. Not only that but of the thousands of pages of various newspapers used in my recent book, I did not find one reference to 'villains'. Covering 1875-1940 this is universal in the 'Metropolis', 'T-U', 'Journal', 'Dixie,' 'American' etc.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Tacachale on December 05, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
The WJCT piece quotes Jim Crooks, a historian who has written several books about Jacksonville. He certainly is an expert, and he's clear both terms have been used (and neither is all that common).

I'm not sure the situation in the 1870s, but a quick search on Jacksonville.com (http://jacksonville.com/search-results?querystring=Jacksonvillian) shows that "Jacksonvillian" has been quite common in the last several decades, and that "Jaxson" (http://jacksonville.com/search-results?querystring=Jaxson) mainly turns up in articles on Jaxson DeVille. Going back a ways in Google Books, I found reference to "Jacksonvillians" in the article "'Jax' and the Cold Spell" (http://books.google.com/books?id=rl4hAQAAMAAJ&pg=PT667&dq=Jacksonvillian&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2QWCVMHDA4WhNub7g3g&ved=0CBwQ6AEwADge#v=onepage&q=Jacksonvillian&f=false), from the 1915 edition of Motion Picture Classic (page 46, first full paragraph).

I expect that the vast majority of sources use something like "Jacksonville citizens" or "people from Jacksonville" over either term.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Tacachale on December 05, 2014, 02:36:40 PM
Winter Journeys in the South (http://books.google.com/books?id=pY4-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA95&dq=Jacksonvillian&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YQiCVJq5G8e0ggSvu4KYDw&ved=0CEUQ6AEwCTgU#v=onepage&q=Jacksonvillian&f=false), by John Martin Hammond in 1916, refers to people from Jacksonville as "Jacksonvillians or Jaxians" (page 95).

Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: Know Growth on December 05, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
Growing up in 1960's-70's South Florida,we hardly noted whoever they were up here. "Folks","Rednecks" typically employed.

"Miamians" rolled off the tongue so easily,so certifiably.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: I-10east on December 05, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
Blah blah blah, who cares what South Florida thinks....
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: finehoe on December 05, 2014, 10:37:36 PM
My first name ain't baby, it's Janet – Miss Jaxson if you're nasty.
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: coredumped on December 05, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
Miamians? Is their such a thing or are they all Cubans and Yankees down there?
Title: Re: THE WORD is "Jaxson"
Post by: I-10east on December 05, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
^^^+100