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November 2019's Downtown Development Review Board (DDRB) meeting promises to be a busy one. Here is a brief look at five major new construction and adaptive reuse projects included in the meeting's agenda packet.
Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/five-major-projects-for-novembers-ddrb-meeting/
Seems like the stuff at ReddiArts could use some tweaking. Why didn't they put the building on the street with the parking behind it as a start...
Much simpler design for the Florida Blue garage. Bigger retail space seems like a plus too.
New design for Florida Blue garage looks better. And 60ft retail is a big improvement.
I'm actually okay with all of them except the Reddi Arts redevelopment. The right building layout is totally suburban.
- I wish the Florida Blue garage actually had retail, but now it could genuinely accommodate retail versus before when it clearly was done to check a box.
- It would be nice for Ashley Square to have some sort of retail, but I get it - that'a a REALLY tough place to try to make retail work. Plus if the future of the Cathedral District is limited retail and almost exclusively church and residential I'm actually okay with it. To think Downtown would actually have the demand for retail on every street and corner downtown is not realistic.
- No brainier to approve That Bar. I hadn't heard about the project but who could possibly object? Same with the old Independent Life building. I'm still curious about the market viability for a grocery store downtown (though perhaps depending on square footage a Walgreens or CVS would work there too), but if they want to build it let's do it!
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So Chase Properties CLOSED on the Reddi Arts parcel? Please share the price if you know what it was. I was under the impression it was 'contingent' not closed yet.
Acme- I agree. When i saw these the other day i was pretty surprised. Hopefully DDRB pushes back.
For the Reddi-Arts project, flip the south building to front Hendricks and put the parking in the rear. That seems like an easy fix.
Quote from: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 10:38:13 AM
For the Reddi-Arts project, flip the south building to front Hendricks and put the parking in the rear. That seems like an easy fix.
For real. It's encouraging that all five are either fine, have improved over previous designs, or could be fixed easily.
According to the workshop material, the north building is existing. It would be retrofitted into a 200 seat, 4,457 SF restaurant space. The south building exists already as well (which explains the parking lot placement). Basically, the concept razes the central section of the existing Reddi-Arts buildings and leaves two for adaptive reuse. The south space would be 6,100 SF restaurant with 338 seats.
Quote from: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
According to the workshop material, the north building is existing. It would be retrofitted into a 200 seat, 4,457 SF restaurant space. The south building exists already as well (which explains the parking lot placement). Basically, the concept razes the central section of the existing Reddi-Arts buildings and leaves two for adaptive reuse. The south space would be 6,100 SF restaurant with 338 seats.
Gotcha, that makes sense.
They must be pretty loose with their definition of retrofit then based on those renderings. Are they going to keep the back wall or something?
There appears to be four buildings there now. The plan shows them tearing down the building facing Kings Avenue and a small building in the center of the property. They'd keep the two larger buildings facing Hendricks. I'll upload the plan and post in a few minutes.
Quote from: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
According to the workshop material, the north building is existing. It would be retrofitted into a 200 seat, 4,457 SF restaurant space. The south building exists already as well (which explains the parking lot placement). Basically, the concept razes the central section of the existing Reddi-Arts buildings and leaves two for adaptive reuse. The south space would be 6,100 SF restaurant with 338 seats.
Wow, I didn't realize it was the same. If it's truly the existing building then I think they should be given some leniency. I'd be curious if they're just stating it is to get around something.
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It will, SMM, cause there ain't enough parking on that mock up to accommodate two restaurants with 500 combined seats.
I love that parking lot under the bridge. It's a good spot to park for free and hop on the skyway if you work downtown.
More info from today's DDRB meeting: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/developer-wants-to-transform-reddi-arts-property-into-two-restaurants
So are they just demolishing the back part of the property off Kings with the existing building for parking?
Yes, the back building and a small one in the middle of the property. This is basically an adaptive reuse project with selective demo.
Hmm.
DDRB gives final approval to Florida Blue parking garage in Brooklyn
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/photo-gallery/ddrb-gives-final-approval-to-florida-blue-parking-garage-in-brooklyn
Renovation, rehabilitation of former Independent Life building wins conceptual approval
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/renovation-rehabilitation-of-former-independent-life-building-wins-conceptual-approval
Quote from: thelakelander on November 18, 2019, 10:07:38 AM
DDRB gives final approval to Florida Blue parking garage in Brooklyn
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/photo-gallery/ddrb-gives-final-approval-to-florida-blue-parking-garage-in-brooklyn
I don't love this thing, but it is what it is I guess. What an opportunity wasted for the corner of Park and Forest. I mean I guess it's something that it looks like this thing can legit accommodate retail on both sides. I'm thinking they wouldn't do the conversion, if ever, unless they thing they could rent the space for a decent amount.
Could the incentives be structured to tip the economic scale to "retail" vs "parking"? Would still need to guarantee holding some minimum number of spaces for public parking evenings and weekends. I can see Blue telling the City in a few years, "Well, we could convert those parking spaces to retail, but that's where the public spaces are, and we can't move those public spaces elsewhere in the garage. Which do you want?"
Quote from: Steve on November 18, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
I don't love this thing, but it is what it is I guess. What an opportunity wasted for the corner of Park and Forest.
That intersection was lost with the Gate station design
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Quote from: Steve on November 18, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
I don't love this thing, but it is what it is I guess. What an opportunity wasted for the corner of Park and Forest.
That intersection was lost with the Gate station design
It didn't have to be. Look at Park and King in Riverside. The Walgreens is terrible, but all three other corners are fine.
It's unofficially official: Reddi Arts will be re-locating to Main Street near Crispy's.
Sweet! What storefront?
I'm not sure...this info came from one of my friends who lives on Laura Street and who I saw last night. They only said "close to Crispy's".
Perhaps Bill Hoff knows.
From what I've heard it's the Surfside Furniture store next to Crispy's (1731 N Main). Just what I've heard - no official knowledge
Quote from: MusicMan on January 06, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
I'm not sure...this info came from one of my friends who lives on Laura Street and who I saw last night. They only said "close to Crispy's".
Perhaps Bill Hoff knows.
Promising but not a done deal. I believe the sale of the business, for example, isn't finalized quite yet.